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It never really went into it really, IIRC. The closest we get is that it confers power over their domain, like with Galadriel, it's her ring that is maintaining the forests of Lothlorien in their enchanted state. I think Elrond is doing the same. The elven rings were the only uncorrupted ones IIRC. The rest "fell" in someway, binding them to the One in the case of the humans or were lost, in the case of the Dwarves. I guess the human and swarven rings did something similar, but unless it says otherwise in the Silmarillion, it's unknown.
Silmarillion is basically Middle Earth bible, creation stories, epic trials and all.
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2013-12-17, 00:05 | Link #442 |
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Fwiw some of the dwarven rings were taken by Sauron (he had three of them, I think?) and some were "consumed by dragons", iirc...
And also, directly relating to the tale of "The Hobbit"... Spoiler for According to the books, mind you - haven't seen the movie... Heavy duty spoilers, though!:
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2013-12-17, 02:26 | Link #443 |
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The epics of the Silmarillion are the battles between the High Elves and Sauron's boss. battles were there were armies of Balrogs and Dragons along side the orcs and goblins. Massive elven armies with human and sometimes dwarf allies.
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2013-12-17, 03:37 | Link #445 |
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The scope of the Silmarillion in term of timeframe is just too big for a movie series. There are few stories from the Silmarilion that can enjoy a movie adaptation tho. Beren & Luthien, Thurin Thurambar and Earendil are those that come in mind.
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All in all, my gripe is that Smaug is so much like a Bond villain. He kept talking and talking and talking of how great he is when his enemies was right in front of him. But when the time comes to prove what he said, he fell short. He couldn’t even kill one dwarf (or hobbit) out of a bunch who fought him, and he also fell to their tricks and traps rather easily. I don't even mentioned how the movie hypes him to hell. I simply don't like that kind of arch-villain. My memory of the book is quite fuzzy. Is that how Smaug was supposed to be? I can't remember.
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2013-12-17, 07:49 | Link #448 |
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From what I remember, sleeping in the mountain as he did for decades made him complacent, fat and soft after slaughtering a kingdom - he's a walking metaphor for greedy industrialists really. So while he could still talk the talk, he could no longer walk the walk. But like I said in an earlier post, it was his personality that was the focus in the books - his interactions with Bilbo were similar to Bilbos ones with Golum, from memory. Except I think Smaug could still see, or smell Bilbo while he was invisible with the ring while they were playing their game of cat and mouse (but that's not in the movie apparently?).
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Don't worry. It's still there in the movie (to a certain degree, I think). Smaug can still smell Bilbo, but can't see him.
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Ahhhh ... ok ... I see what you mean. Ignoble or "undramatic" vs. "awesome", then.
Well, let's see what part 3 of the movie does with it. Perhaps it will help "improve" in this aspect of things for you? ^^
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Hopefully. I'm sure the scene will be quite interesting in the movie probably extended like the scene in the prior movie within the mountain, since they can't fill the *entire* movie with 5 Armies stuff, lol.
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2014-07-29, 02:21 | Link #458 |
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There is a lot of posturing, if I recall, between the dwarves, elves, and humans before the main event.
Plus that was one thing Tolkien tended to gloss over...the content of the battles. Plus there is still all the stuff going on to the south with Gandalf, that really was only mentioned as an aside in the book. Another major battle that was more or less brushed off by Gandalf when he talks to Bilbo about it.
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