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2009-05-20, 15:08 | Link #2223 |
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again, what does it mean "he isnt used to fighting equal enemies"
like kallen is used to fighting the lancelot at that point and your right about the last fight not being equal machines anymore
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The Black Knights had faced against the Lancelot before. Therefore, when facing against Suzaku, she knew what to expect; Suzaku didn't when it came to the Guren. This gave her the advantage of surprise when it came to their battle. EDIT: Come on, guys, quit tag-teaming me. Its hard keeping up with both of your responses. :V
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2009-05-20, 15:16 | Link #2226 |
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suzaku had more experiance in the lancelot (she just deployed the guren for the first time)
but she did already have time to test it out against some of britannia's best pilots (jeremia, cornellia)
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2009-05-20, 15:19 | Link #2227 | |
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The first against the Guren is the initial example. Then comes Turn 6 with the flying Guren, and Suzaku's still overconfident. So, when the Guren pins him down, he's all stressed out that it can be just as good as his Lancelot. Later the SEITEN shows up and blocks his Hadron blaster, and he just starts spamming it like crazy. He even thinks that close combat is better when the Guren is designed for that. Finally, when he's sitting pretty with the live command boosting his abilities in the Albion, he still cannot comprehend why Kallen is keeping up. Suzaku started the show with a toy he was told is the best of the best, and this colors his reactions from then on. He has trouble accepting that he may be inferior, and his strategies reflect that.
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2009-05-20, 15:20 | Link #2228 | |
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Morbofist, I'll reply to you after I finish making lunch.
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2009-05-20, 15:22 | Link #2229 |
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when she saw the lancelot the first time it had no varis or MVS's
morbo does have a point about his shock and awe every time he finds himself faced with a machine equal or stronger then his own
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2009-05-20, 15:38 | Link #2230 |
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You know, instead of just replying to each point, I'm going to say this: I think we've fallen off-topic. This was about which machine was best, right? But its devolved into a Kallen vs. Suzaku topic. Which is nothing bad, of course, but I must say this:
We haven't been arguing about which machine is better, we've been arguing about which pilot was better. And all this talk of battle is reflecting that, because more often than not we're seeing how the pilot's making the difference here, and not the machine.
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2009-05-20, 15:45 | Link #2234 |
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if its machine then the original lancelot was better over all
the guren was better at close range, but suffered greatly for it in other ranges the SEITEN upgread made it better then any other machine but that actually raises the question of why that is why wouldnt Lloyd just twik up the albion to match it he did after all have a better energy wing system why not spec it up (considering who he'd be facing no doubt)
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2009-05-20, 15:53 | Link #2237 |
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the funny part is we dont actually know WHAT about the SEITEN was better
it doesnt seem faster or stronger it cant be the radiation tech alone becouse it was never mentioned as higher spec'd what exactly about it was more "high spec" that kallen mentions i still think they added it at the last moment becouse they needed kallen to say something during that exchange when you think about it it doesnt even make sense for kallen to say it beocuse she wouldnt have the slightest idea about the albion's specs if it came from Lloyd or suzaku i'd understand it Lloyd did build both and i'd be surprised if suzaku's first question after getting it wouldnt be "how well would it hold against the guren"
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Now if the Gawain had blaze luminous shields(which it should have had) then it would've been the top mech with a perfect offense and defense. |
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Really if the Lancelot was an experimental test machine with all those toys and gadgets why shouldn't the Gawain have got some of them too? It was built by Llyod as well(or at least he designed it) and we know what hes like for just sticking gadgets onto things. For one of Llyods babies the Gawain srsly sucked ass compared to his other inventions. |
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