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Old 2019-01-20, 18:15   Link #121
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Over here in Malaysia its already a regular release at GSC cinema chains, I went to watch it with the friend I usually go shop gunpla with.
How many people watched the movie with you in the theater? I assume there weren't many because there aren't many Gundam fans among the mainstream audience, especially UC-specific fans. Also, did the Malaysian LPF censor some things in the movie?

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I can't comment on the 23 minutes video since I never watched it.
It's basically just the first 23 minutes of the movie.

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All I can say is the movie pacing is fast so usually nothing drags on for too long, which makes sense since it focuses on a new cast of characters. It isn't really that much directly related to Unicorn other than the discovery of the reality breaking powers of the Psychoframes observed in Episode 7.
Did the Phenex appear in CG most of the time?
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Old 2019-01-20, 18:36   Link #122
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When I went to watch it was mostly empty and as far as I can tell...nothing was censored.

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Old 2019-01-21, 02:34   Link #123
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It was mostly empty for me.

Nothing was censored as far as I could tell though there might be one naked Newtype communication scene that was suspiciously short by Gundam standards so I suspect that one might be cut short or cropped from the full picture.

Sometimes distributors self censor movies in order to get more age friendly ratings but yeah they'll have to follow the Film Censorship department categories to reach that certification and Malaysia standards for the age categories are kinda strict I suppose.
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Old 2019-01-21, 18:02   Link #124
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Personally I didn't mind watching the movie like that. It makes me feel like I got the cinema it all to myself. ^^

Can we openly talk about the spoilers now?
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Old 2019-01-22, 01:06   Link #125
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Can we openly talk about the spoilers now?
IIRC the rules for anime movie is that you can talk openly about spoilers when the home video is already available. That's because anime movies aren't widely available in theaters like Hollywood movies for example.

Otherwise, you can talk about spoilers within spoiler tags .
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Old 2019-01-25, 00:16   Link #126
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Old 2019-02-16, 23:50   Link #127
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So, I just saw it yesterday and it's quite a blast to watch a Gundam movie in a theater (in my little hometown no less, that's like a small miracle, thanks to people who built those malls here that attracted cinema chains and anime distributors like ODEX). And I went there and saw five other people watching with me. I saw a lonewolf (like me), a couple-pair, and a bro-pair. So, six people did watch NT at the time including myself. Btw, the chain only shown NT in one studio once a day. I was lucky to catch that on Saturday.

So, non-spoiler breakdown:

The Good:

The Story
First, I think people need to temper their expectation because no, this movie does not aim to be the next Unicorn or something. It's more like an epilogue for Unicorn if anything because it actually help explain things that happened in Unicorn and even i in Gundam shows prior to it. Considering NT is a little side-story with new characters with their own story that needs to be told in 90s minutes it's really well-thought out and well-told. It also provides a sound reasoning why most people stop exploring the psychoframe technology in the F91 era.

The Protags:
I can't help but like all the three protags enough to root for them. One of them you can love to hate at some point while you just feel sorry for the other two and want them to have a happy ending. Brick and the EF officer Iago are also pretty likable. And I'd say the little cameos are pretty nice, short and sweet. Really, they don't focus on too much cast in this movie because this is Jona, Rita & Michelle's intimate story. It's all about them.

The Music:
Another great work from Sawano. Of course, not as good as Unicorn coz you can't really replicate that first experience with Sawano's greatest tracks, but this is close enough.

The Not So Good:

The Villain:
Zoltan Akkanen is a one-note psychotic villain. There's no getting around that. He's basically just there to be one of the reasons why the events in the movie happened. His presence still makes sense though and helps to shine more light to how Full Frontal was created for those who only experience Gundam through anime.

The Animation:
Somehow, the animation in this movie is not on the same level of Unicorrn, Thunderbolt & Trailblazer despite being a 90-minute theatrical movie (not OVA or ONA). The movements are kinda clunky which was emphasized by the big screen where we can see all the details clearly. I'd even go so far as to say that the handdrawn mecha animation is below F91 and has more percentage of derpy Gundam faces compared to 00 series. The fact that Phenex mostly uses CG kinda help them out a bit. That's kinda strange, isn't it? Maybe they didn't get much budget or something because the director is capable of something better. Or maybe handdrawn mecha animation is just really dying right now idk. I want to see the upcoming new Code Geass movie to determine that.

The So-So:

Mecha Designs:
It's just "eh" for me since most of them are just recycles with not much difference from previous suit. There's no stand out unigue mechas like Khsatriya, Sinanju, Rozen Zulu, Shamblo, or Delta Plus that we saw animated for the first time. Not really a big fan of Narrative either. If I have to choose, that A-Pack is still my favorite. Sinanju Stein is still sweet though.

The Polarizing:

There are things that will probably polarize UC fans. On one hand, UC fans who like their universe grounded and "realistic" and hate the Newtype stuffs will probably be annoyed by all the Newtype "mumbo jumbo" and the time-altering & death-defying psychoframe devices that NT is running with. On another side, UC fans who likes the Newtypes stuff will almost certainly enjoy how NT expands on the idea and also clears some ambiguous concepts that's prevalent in Tomino's Gundam entry involving human transcendence.

All in all, it's a very nice experience that worth the ticket price (assuming the theater do not charge more than the normal price) and still a must watch for UC fans who like Unicorn and want to see the direct events after the ending of the OVAs (which was only glimpsed at by Twilight Axis).

Note: Don't bother staying for post-credit scenes. They only give you HF teaser that we all have seen online.
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Old 2019-02-20, 01:26   Link #128
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So, I just saw it yesterday and it's quite a blast to watch a Gundam movie in a theater (in my little hometown no less, that's like a small miracle, thanks to people who built those malls here that attracted cinema chains and anime distributors like ODEX). And I went there and saw five other people watching with me. I saw a lonewolf (like me), a couple-pair, and a bro-pair. So, six people did watch NT at the time including myself. Btw, the chain only shown NT in one studio once a day. I was lucky to catch that on Saturday.

So, non-spoiler breakdown:

The Good:

The Story
First, I think people need to temper their expectation because no, this movie does not aim to be the next Unicorn or something. It's more like an epilogue for Unicorn if anything because it actually help explain things that happened in Unicorn and even i in Gundam shows prior to it. Considering NT is a little side-story with new characters with their own story that needs to be told in 90s minutes it's really well-thought out and well-told. It also provides a sound reasoning why most people stop exploring the psychoframe technology in the F91 era.

The Protags:
I can't help but like all the three protags enough to root for them. One of them you can love to hate at some point while you just feel sorry for the other two and want them to have a happy ending. Brick and the EF officer Iago are also pretty likable. And I'd say the little cameos are pretty nice, short and sweet. Really, they don't focus on too much cast in this movie because this is Jona, Rita & Michelle's intimate story. It's all about them.

The Music:
Another great work from Sawano. Of course, not as good as Unicorn coz you can't really replicate that first experience with Sawano's greatest tracks, but this is close enough.

The Not So Good:

The Villain:
Zoltan Akkanen is a one-note psychotic villain. There's no getting around that. He's basically just there to be one of the reasons why the events in the movie happened. His presence still makes sense though and helps to shine more light to how Full Frontal was created for those who only experience Gundam through anime.

The Animation:
Somehow, the animation in this movie is not on the same level of Unicorrn, Thunderbolt & Trailblazer despite being a 90-minute theatrical movie (not OVA or ONA). The movements are kinda clunky which was emphasized by the big screen where we can see all the details clearly. I'd even go so far as to say that the handdrawn mecha animation is below F91 and has more percentage of derpy Gundam faces compared to 00 series. The fact that Phenex mostly uses CG kinda help them out a bit. That's kinda strange, isn't it? Maybe they didn't get much budget or something because the director is capable of something better. Or maybe handdrawn mecha animation is just really dying right now idk. I want to see the upcoming new Code Geass movie to determine that.

The So-So:

Mecha Designs:
It's just "eh" for me since most of them are just recycles with not much difference from previous suit. There's no stand out unigue mechas like Khsatriya, Sinanju, Rozen Zulu, Shamblo, or Delta Plus that we saw animated for the first time. Not really a big fan of Narrative either. If I have to choose, that A-Pack is still my favorite. Sinanju Stein is still sweet though.

The Polarizing:

There are things that will probably polarize UC fans. On one hand, UC fans who like their universe grounded and "realistic" and hate the Newtype stuffs will probably be annoyed by all the Newtype "mumbo jumbo" and the time-altering & death-defying psychoframe devices that NT is running with. On another side, UC fans who likes the Newtypes stuff will almost certainly enjoy how NT expands on the idea and also clears some ambiguous concepts that's prevalent in Tomino's Gundam entry involving human transcendence.

All in all, it's a very nice experience that worth the ticket price (assuming the theater do not charge more than the normal price) and still a must watch for UC fans who like Unicorn and want to see the direct events after the ending of the OVAs (which was only glimpsed at by Twilight Axis).

Note: Don't bother staying for post-credit scenes. They only give you HF teaser that we all have seen online.
IMO you hit the nail on the head, that's pretty much how I feel for the most part



7.5/10 is my score for this
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Old 2019-02-21, 06:06   Link #129
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^ Yeah, 7.5/10 is a fair score. It's good for what it aimed to be.

Also, as expected, there are already backlash from UC-fans who really hated the "Newtype shenanigans" in NT. Many of those are UC-fans who hold onto "muh UC realism" even though Tomino already established Newtypes from the very beginning before Gundam even became a franchise. They already claimed that NT is the worst UC entry and the movie has ruined the UC entries that came before it (Heh). There are also people who expected/demanded that NT answers all the questions that fans had about Newtype before watching the movie and then made a rant when the movie did not fulfill that expectation to such degree. The rest of the rants & complains usually also came from people who missed some points because they haven't seen much UC entries before or didn't pay enough attention to the movie.

I'm starting to wonder, are the "UC die-hard fans" who totally reject the Newtype concept and the expansion of it can really be called "true UC fans" at all? I mean, Newtype and human transcendence is like half the point of the main UC story (if not more). The development of the Newtype powers in NT is certainly nowhere near as baffling as the Jedi power-evolution in The Last Jedi for such fan outrage. Frankly, the biggest event in the movie is no more outrageous than Amuro pulling an entire asteroid with only a cockpit-psychoframe of the Nu Gundam back in CCA.
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Old 2019-02-27, 21:18   Link #130
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Those guys are not worth spending time on or paying attention to, nothing you say will change their minds.

Just leave them be.
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Old 2019-03-03, 03:33   Link #131
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How can one be a die hard UC fan and not except newtype shenanigans? I mean newtypes have been apart of the UC since 0079 and were such a prominent focus in Zeta gundam and ZZ gundam. Heck, Jadau controls ZZ gundam in some scenes by pure psychic power. lol In fact, that is exactly what psychoframe is, a way for newtypes to control mecha with their psychic power in a more stable way than what Jadau does with ZZ Gundam. As for realism, mecha is FAR from real. Even the real robot genre is absurd. The true realism in gundam comes from its focus on politics and the true nature of war where both sides believe themselves righteous while in truth both having corrupt flaws. Real life is often more gray than black and white.

Anyway, I'll have to wait to see the movie when the DVD comes out but from what I read I'll be quite interested in it. If it really does tie up some stuff up after unicorn such as why psychoframe technology was abandon by F91 then the movie will be a win in my eyes.
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Old 2019-03-03, 07:15   Link #132
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How can one be a die hard UC fan and not except newtype shenanigans?
- Mate...have you met the number of "Old School Iron Man Fans" who first cracked a gasket over the Iron Man 2 movie, saying "Iron Man never had a silly gimmick like a suit in a suitcase!!"

There's a big difference between preferring non-newtype stories (which do have a place in Gundam, just see 08th MS Team and Gundam 0080) and wishing they weren't part of the Gundam mythos at all. I mean, I wish that there were more Star Wars movie like Rogue One (EG less Jedi and more on the normal troops of the Rebellion) but that doesn't mean I don't want there to be JEdi-related SW movies. Same goes for NEwTypes in UC Gundam: I like the stories with more non-special human beings as characters, but I don't mind a UC Gundam with NEwTypes that pulls off the story well.
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Old 2019-03-03, 20:56   Link #133
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Don't have a chance to see this movie, but like what wavehawk said, I am the type who prefers the the non-newtype stories (big fan of 0083). New type is ok, and I am curious what type of trick they are pulling off this time

From "I can now win with funnel" in 0093, to the "time manipulation" (I only saw the first 23 min preview)...it sure is a big jump

All I want is just a good story, that's all
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Old 2019-03-04, 00:56   Link #135
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Preferring the more grounded parts of the UC timeline is perfectly fine. Still, there are some "UC diehard fans" out there who would rather ignore the more "ridiculous" Newtype stuffs in UC. For example, whenever you bring up the fact that Zeta absorbs the souls of the dead and is glowing with pink aura during the fight with The O, those same fans would rather pretend that doesn't happen .


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From "I can now win with funnel" in 0093, to the "time manipulation" (I only saw the first 23 min preview)...it sure is a big jump
I mean, Amuro pulling a bigass asteroid (or two since Axis was split) with only a cockpit-psychoframe and Chan's T-shaped psycho-piece is as much a miracle as Moses splitting the Red Sea. After such feat, small manipulation of time is not really such a big jump compared to the jump from telepathy, lightning response & spatial awareness to what Amuro did in CCA which basically super-mega-ultra-telekinesis not even Jean Grey or Jedi Masters are capable of doing.
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