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Perfect 10 | 34 | 28.57% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 35 | 29.41% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 37 | 31.09% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 12 | 10.08% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.84% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-11-28, 03:35 | Link #141 |
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Misogynistic? If it was Kayneth that breaking off Sola-Ui's fingers when she was lying paralyzed chained by the bed I'm very certain that we will all call him a douchebag or an a**hole. So no, she is acting a bitch for the sake of being a bitch, because what happens to asking politely with the magic word 'please'?
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2011-11-28, 03:40 | Link #143 | |
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Sola said herself that she was unable to take the Command Seals without Kayneth's consent, that's why she tortured him to force him consent.
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2011-11-28, 04:27 | Link #145 | |
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Spoiler for I hope this is allowed since it's not spoilery?:
He's very aware they are staking their lives in this and that is logical to give her the command seals, just like her he's not thinking clearly by being dragged into the Lancer drama triangle. Because being Lancer is suffering. You completely missed my point. He's still alive, after she got what she wanted. She could have claimed to Lancer that he couldn't make it and she had to transfer the seals (Lancer didn't know she was unskilled in that) and it was a miracle that he survived.
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2011-11-28, 04:41 | Link #146 | |
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In contrast to this, Lancer respects and acknowledges her a warrior she wished to be. I'm not saying she wants to ride Lancer's spear, but it's clear she let herself be swayed by his charms because it made her feel appreciated dare I say, needed deep inside. Magic resistance has nothing to do with this. It's about mental fortitude. As a heroic spirit she should have above average, but Lancer still managed to take advantage of that weakness suavely.
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2011-11-28, 05:00 | Link #147 |
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In my view, Kiritsugu is actually trying to do saber a favor by going for Lancer's team, as Saber's hand is still injured.
Saber must be really affected by the mole or Lancer's charms to not notice her bleeding hand, and she still wants to go after Caster... After having to be saved by Lancer while fighting Caster. |
2011-11-28, 05:10 | Link #148 | |
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Spoiler for novel scene, to show what they are thinking...:
In other words: Yay Chivalry! Edit: Also she's fighting with Invisible Air because that's her non-trump card Noble Phantasm.
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2011-11-28, 05:40 | Link #149 | |
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You know this makes me wonder a little, is there still a connection between Kayneth and Lancer now that the command seals changed hands? As shown in the previous episode Lancer can sensed Kayneth when he is in mortal peril, but now that Sola-Ui has the command seals then he could sense Sola-Ui in danger but not Kayneth anymore? And anyway if Sola-Ui kills Kayneth after the transfer I doubt Lancer will be fooled by her. After all they were only the ones in the building and he can still sensed Kayneth when he's unconscious so if he suddenly died after that is very suspicious of Sola-Ui. |
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2011-11-28, 06:21 | Link #150 | |
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2011-11-28, 08:16 | Link #151 | ||
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I agree than a man or a woman stuck in a marriage with someone that they do not love is definitely more than just bitter suffering. However you never have to resort to torture (both psychological and physical) to your partner, especially when said partner actually loves you. Sure go cheat on him, go get a divorce if you can, get things cleared out with him...be his friend, what ever. Also she healed him for her own agenda, not because she wanted to. Well sure she didn't kill Kayneth but that in no way makes her a better person. This isn't in any way sexist. I am criticizing Sola as a human being, not as a woman. She just happens to be a woman being a bitch to her husband. I can certainly criticize Caster for being a horrible gentleman caller...who on earth blow up kids instead of getting some flowers and a ring? |
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2011-11-28, 08:41 | Link #152 | ||
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Also although this is offtopic, I don't think the roles are entirely reversed. In the Fate route, I think Shirou and Saber learn from each other. Quote:
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2011-11-28, 10:24 | Link #155 | |
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If I'm going to take a wild guess here is that Saber has too much honor, which is something that Kiritsugu use to have and respected when he was younger? Then he realized that in order to achieve his goals and respect said honor, he would need to cast said honor aside. Which is why we end up with the Magus Killer....with a heart d'awww. |
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2011-11-28, 10:24 | Link #156 |
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I'm not feeling any kind of sexual tension between the two either. They simply respect reach other as fellow knights and abide by the code of chivalry, which is extremely important to the both of them.
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2011-11-28, 10:55 | Link #157 | |
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Lancer is being a knight and a Bro to Saber, and she returns the feeling. I don't see why do we need to overanalyze it. If anything, Diarmuid is the best opponent that Saber could possibly have. It's just too bad that their Masters are mismatches for them.
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2011-11-28, 11:37 | Link #159 | |
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2011-11-28, 12:12 | Link #160 | |
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The idea that honor must be stupid is a weird invention that I really suspect was made to slander what honor represents. |
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