(L) Re:Creators

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

I would take both, there is never enough of Meteora

Though I like Selessia better anyway

Here you go, bikini Selesia :
https://yande.re/post/show/398513

[xizro345]

Second BD arrived:

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Still haven't checked the actual episodes to see if there are any differences.

The extra content this time is the so-called "Episode 0", a special called "Enter the world of Re:CREATORS" that aired the week before the series started.
The next BD will have, as extra, a CD with cast talk. The special that aired last week will be in BD 6 instead.

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Honestly you are completely rewriting her character. She doesn't think long term. Never. She will not sit and will not think any master plan. She will take bath in money and go and screw with someone for fun. That's Magane.

Yes she does resemble Joker, but unlike him she has not his obsession. He can be main villain because he is on completely different scale. He came and leave with Bang. Magane simply doesn't have that. She is nuisance and spanner in the work, wild card that will screw both heroes and villains alike, but will not stick with anything for long.

As I said sure if Altair chicken out, Magane as well might push red button of doom, because... why not? But that doesn't make her main villain. That one is reserved for people who are actual threat. If she were she would already screwing with Altair or would actually succeed with manipulating Souta, but she didn't and there is no reason suddenly switch her role in middle of story with no foreshadowing or ability to do that.

Ok, just to clarify, I'm not rewriting her character in any way. A more appropriate word you could've used was "exaggerate". Since there's not much to work with regarding her characterization, I just took some of her confirmed existing traits and expanded on them in realistic ways.

I disagree with you with regard to her actions and thought-processes tho. You're only seeing her for her crazy side, but underneath all of that craziness, she's arguably the 2nd or 3rd most intelligent of all the creations currently. The whole working principle behind her power is reason enough to acknowledge how much thought she puts into things. Her power isn't straightforward like the others and is quite roundabout in its execution. It takes a lot of thought and preparation to effectively use her power. She has to rely on her wordplay and when against enemies wary of her power/just as intelligent as her, she has to try harder to incorporate ways to either get them to lower their guard or to fall for any potential traps she may set.

Lastly, I wasn't likening her to the Joker. You completely missed the point. The point I was trying to make is that the last boss doesn't need to be the strongest enemy that the protagonists must face, they can be the weakest character in the entire cast, but because of one specific trait or quality they possess, it compensates for this weakness and makes them a worthwhile and legitimate threat.

[Convoy]

Originally Posted by zztop

Sexyora:
https://yande.re/post/show/400470

Y'know I wonder if this design exists in-universe as some doujin art.

[xizro345]

First picture of the new episode:

Spoiler for Episode 16 spoilers:

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by MK-95-

Ok, just to clarify, I'm not rewriting her character in any way. A more appropriate word you could've used was "exaggerate". Since there's not much to work with regarding her characterization, I just took some of her confirmed existing traits and expanded on them in realistic ways.

I disagree with you with regard to her actions and thought-processes tho. You're only seeing her for her crazy side, but underneath all of that craziness, she's arguably the 2nd or 3rd most intelligent of all the creations currently. The whole working principle behind her power is reason enough to acknowledge how much thought she puts into things. Her power isn't straightforward like the others and is quite roundabout in its execution. It takes a lot of thought and preparation to effectively use her power. She has to rely on her wordplay and when against enemies wary of her power/just as intelligent as her, she has to try harder to incorporate ways to either get them to lower their guard or to fall for any potential traps she may set.

Lastly, I wasn't likening her to the Joker. You completely missed the point. The point I was trying to make is that the last boss doesn't need to be the strongest enemy that the protagonists must face, they can be the weakest character in the entire cast, but because of one specific trait or quality they possess, it compensates for this weakness and makes them a worthwhile and legitimate threat.

There is plenty of characterisation for her and non of it give any feeling of mastermind. Yes she is intelligent, actually there is no really reason why she shouldn't be number 1 when it come intellect. But you now all these preparations and traps are too boring to set and she is smart enough to get what she want with pure improvisation. At no point she laid trap and so far she didn't make any preparation either.

Final boss obviously has to be strongest, that's why he is final boss. What you mean is main Villain aka "Big Bad". For these being powerful is not necessary, but their existence need to be real threat for one or other reason. Magane doesn't need that to have fun and she doesn't really care about anything else anyway-

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

There is plenty of characterisation for her and non of it give any feeling of mastermind. Yes she is intelligent, actually there is no really reason why she shouldn't be number 1 when it come intellect. But you now all these preparations and traps are too boring to set and she is smart enough to get what she want with pure improvisation. At no point she laid trap and so far she didn't make any preparation either.

Final boss obviously has to be strongest, that's why he is final boss. What you mean is main Villain aka "Big Bad". For these being powerful is not necessary, but their existence need to be real threat for one or other reason. Magane doesn't need that to have fun and she doesn't really care about anything else anyway-

Hear what, lets just agree to disagree and call it even. Neither of us is willing to budge on any points and we are going in circles at this point.

It doesn't really make any sense to continue with this if no progress is being made and all we're really doing is wasting each other's time as a result...

[xizro345]

More images:

Spoiler for Episode 16 spoilers:

[Convoy]

The obligatory onsen episode, eh?

[xizro345]

Final pictures before the episode:

Spoiler for Episode 16 spoilers:

[xizro345]

Well, it feels we're on the final part.

Spoiler for Episode 16 spoilers:

A "calm before the storm" episode. The gang gets a bit of relax before the start of the main event and the final battle against Altair.
There are a lot of meta references in this episode, such as Rui and Selesia's VAs appearing as themselves during the opening of the Elimination Chamber Festival, or Yuya's creator telling Rui the person voicing him is a woman.

There's also a bit of fanservice, of both sides, but also some interesting comments by Selesia and Meteora discussing what may be the last time they really "feel" the world (see Selesia's comment on coffee back at the beginning of the series), talking about Altair as well. Also, it seems Code Babylon's creator has chosen a certain approach for her part of the scenario, but what exactly she wrote is unclear at this point.

The time of the event comes, and it looks like the government is doing things competently.

Selesia gets (finally) Vogelchevalier back into action.
Yuya gets a new power to counter the loss of Hangaku.
And Altair is getting ready to move as well.

Minimanga: https://imgur.com/a/vxfTw

https://www.sunday-webry.com/events/...d/interview16/

Spoiler for Episode 16 spoilers:

- There's a bit of joking about the hot springs scene (based on a real location);

- Hiroe's editor said Troyca did a good job, especially when animating Kikuchihara's breasts;

- The hot springs scene had only one retake, and the rest went smoothly;

- The idea of having the climax in the stadium like this was present in Hiroe's concepts from the very beginning of the creation of the series;

- Quoting Kikuchihara's words, "the customer is god", Hiroe says that from now on the audience will participate in the story as a driving force;

- Meteora can now use a pseudo-Holopsicon ability, and that is why she's able to call Vogelchevalier back;

- The interview format will get back by August 6th since next week there will be the last special.

http://recreators.tv/special/intervi...erview_06.html

Yuya's VA interview - I'll get back to it in a bit.

- He got basically no explanation about Yuya while auditioning for the role, just a basic description of the setting;

- So, he tried on his own using as base the fact that Yuya's the main character rival;

- He initially voiced his character as a bit of insane guy, though he notices he becomes more human as the story progresses;

- In fact, he says that in the end Yuya isn't really a "bad guy" or a "good guy" but something in the middle, and he was conscious of it while voicing him;

- Yuya's enjoying living in the world as it is, and that's why he doesn't want it to be destroyed;

- That scene that left him a big impression was when Yuya gets robbed of his sword ability by Magane (not to mention Hangaku later), in fact he was a bit shocked and even regretted playing the scene;

- He jokes that he lost due to a couple quarrel (referring to the fact he's married to Maya Sakamoto - Magane);

- When asked why Yuya only uses a nickname with Meteora he simply says he likes the nickname, laughing;

- He says also that Yuya is a very organized and rational character, despite what the looks;

- He touches a bit on his relationship with Rui, calling it a "delinquent feeling" (a remark he uses in other parts of the interview);

- He praises the choice for Syo's voice;

- He finishes the interview discussing the two axis of the show - the works of entertainment and the creators.

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Speaking of real-life locations, the stadium where the Elimination Chamber Festival's held strongly resembles the real-life Nissan Stadium in Yokohama.

Spoiler for Nissan Stadium, Yokohama:

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Hikayu's wallpaper from the official site:

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[justpassingby]

Welp, that's it. I'm cancelling my preorders for the remaining BDs. Great job of making a boring Mary Sue like Meteora as the main character.
It's gonna be weird to own only the first volume

[Stark700]

Hmm, another buildup episode...

I'm ready for the final battles tbh. Selestia getting back her Vogelchevalier and Yuya's weapon upgrade will play important roles. The question is how Altair will counterattack Meteora's plan as she seems confident with her own team.

Oh man, the fan service this week got a few laughs out of me. Yuya's ripped LOL

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by xizro345

- There's a bit of joking about the hot springs scene (based on a real location);

It is not only based on a location, it is the Ōedo Onsen Monogatari. They got their permission, as shown in the ED. Having been there a few months ago it felt very familiar to me. Only of course that back then it was packed with people.

As a sidenote, Komatsu Mikako and Amamiya Sora got animated.

[tuckersister]

I wonder if Souta and his Creation will join the final battle at some point. His plan is a secret except for two people.

[AswgLaghima08]

Meteora on that nation wide transmutation circle swag, wonder if Altair has a way to counter with her OG Holopscion, in all honesty tho i just wanna see Yuya get hangaku back and fight with syo

[blakstealth]

Can't wait for Selesia and Yuya's reactions when the other characters from their stories enter the battle.

And the whole scene with Brave the Ocean playing in the background is so so so good.

[tuckersister]

If Altair's design is military themed, then Vega's would holy order theme. That's just me. I'm open to ideas. Plus it would make sense.