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Old 2008-09-04, 01:38   Link #201
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You always end up picking the childhood friend.
??? False. I always see the childhood friend types getting shafted. The only recent anime that did this ending was True Tears.

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Being in a gym storage room is like taking ecstasy.
??? Its not overused, in fact only two anime I have seen that has this gym storage room cliche. These are CLANNAD and Kyou Go No Ni.

This cliche is often used in hentai though.
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Old 2008-09-04, 05:22   Link #202
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Not true, a girl can be a flat-chested as a board... but still have high appeal.
That's not what the show makes the male characters believe.

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Doesn't this depend on what you define as "average"
No, there really is no normal girl in general, if she even has glasses then you can expect some wierd stuff to happen.

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Isn't that true about most people (even IRL)... they have something that they are good at?
I mean compared to other characters. This is a question of (unnecesary) praise recieved in the show.
e.g. "Oh look that's _____ the ______ and [blah blah blah]"

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Well they can't show erections, and according to some research I did it seems to go back to some old myth the Japanese have. Also this seems to sometimes effect girls (especially lesbians).
This extra touch is unecessary and overused.

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Isn't that the point of the show, after all someone who is trying to dominate/blow up the world/universe... doesn't seem to be exactly very likable?
Yes, but that's just because you are told to think a certain way and not the other.
But you are correct of course.
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Old 2008-09-05, 21:41   Link #203
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all the females have PERFECT 10 bodies... not a bad cliche just a mildly used ne
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Old 2008-09-05, 23:28   Link #204
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??? False. I always see the childhood friend types getting shafted. The only recent anime that did this ending was True Tears.



??? Its not overused, in fact only two anime I have seen that has this gym storage room cliche. These are CLANNAD and Kyou Go No Ni.

This cliche is often used in hentai though.
I always thought that the childhood friend types had a good advantage among the rest. Oh well, I guess its true that it isn't exactly overused. Anyway, recommend me some animes where the childhood friend types get shafted, I'd enjoy watching them. I tend to root for the girls in the background a lot.

The second one just seemed like a known fact of sorts. Green Green had a hilarious guy on guy on guy scene about it and Dokuro Chan had a scene too... though that one didn't really turn out like it was supposed to, but then again, it never does. Do people infer that being locked in the gym storage room leads to a sexually embarrassing scenario, maybe it's just me. I thought that it wouldn't be a known fact if it wasn't used so I just stuck it on there.
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Old 2008-09-07, 01:23   Link #205
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all the females have PERFECT 10 bodies... not a bad cliche just a mildly used ne
they are somewhat skinny but i wouldn't say perfect.
There are lot of flat chests out there, with many with not much of a S line.

Lot of heroines don't have long model legs, rather most of them look average. Average 7 1/2 head, or less!
especially when you get in shojo series.

well this isn't exactly cliche, but i really dislike how every female character with big boobs, and heavy S lines are frequently used as a target for sexual objectification.
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Old 2008-09-07, 03:02   Link #206
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There aren't many overweight anime girls, but there aren't many overweight girls in Japan in real life either.

America has a much different perception of weight. You might be considered thin here, but they would think you were overweight in Japan or Korea maybe.


As for the worst cliche, I'm sure it has been mentioned, but girl and boy going around a corner, running into each other and falling on top of each other.

They need to set up stop lights on anime hallways intersections.

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Old 2008-09-07, 03:15   Link #207
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Well, I find that most of the girls designed by Production I.G. are sufficiently ugly enough to break the "All anime girls are perfect" belief.

And yeah, Japanese people are generally thinner than those in Western countries...
Asians are just built differently, not to mention health habits.
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Old 2008-09-08, 16:09   Link #208
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??? False. I always see the childhood friend types getting shafted. The only recent anime that did this ending was True Tears.
You should give kimikiss a try.
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Old 2008-09-08, 16:22   Link #209
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Erm i feel you have missed the "Oh i slipped and fell and look up at females panties"
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Old 2008-09-08, 17:10   Link #210
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2. Guy falls on girl, they blush for 2 second, and panic. Any series that has something like this i usually drop it immediately. Tasteless.
I was quite surprised to see this cliché appear in even a non-mainstream show, Nijuu Mensou no Musume. I had laughingly predicted that a particular male character would fall on top of one of the female characters, never expecting that I'd even be half right. (The male character wasn't the one I predicted.) In this instance, we didn't have the panic and blushing for reasons I won't go into, nor will this event keep me from watching the rest of the series. It still seemed unnecessary, though.
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Old 2008-09-08, 18:44   Link #211
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all the females have PERFECT 10 bodies... not a bad cliche just a mildly used ne
i cant remember ever seeing a loli with acne
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Old 2008-09-08, 19:21   Link #212
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The kind hardworking girl always looses to the sluty egoistic stupid one with phyhologic problems.
Spoiler for hint at the ending of clannad:


I put it in a spoiler tag but honnestly all of the girls are fairly hard working and there really wasnt a stand out slutty one.

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Old 2008-09-08, 19:30   Link #213
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surely that could so with some spoiler tags :|
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Old 2008-09-09, 17:13   Link #214
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There we go fixed it.
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Old 2008-09-09, 23:03   Link #215
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Old 2008-09-10, 01:59   Link #216
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The curve actually acts much like the roman arch, dispersing energy better than a straight sword. So if a katana and a broad stright sword of same weight, length, and steel composition were to clash the broad sword will break because the energy will center more to the focal point within the stright broad sword than a curved katana.
The curve may have that property (I'm not an engineer, so I couldn't say one way or the other), but I can tell you that's not the primary reason it evolved. The origin of the curve lies in the manner the sword was being used and how it cuts. Swords can't slice through things in the same manner as an ace, they don't have the mass for that. Think of how you use a knife to cut food, you move it back and forth which makes it easier to slice things. A good sword cut uses the same principle of moving the edge along the target. Curved swords such as the katana, the scimitar and the sabre evolved to maximise the efficiency of this cut. The sabre was developed by cavalry to make it easier to slash at infantrymen as they rode past them. Kenjutsu styles, as I understand them, emphasis strong cuts and so needed a highly efficient cutting blade. Enter the katana.

Incidentally, that would have to be one poorly made broadsword to break on impact with a katana. Katana's were thicker and more rigid than European blades, which were made flexible in order to absorb the impact of parrying the opponents blade. This extra thickness makes them much more rigid than European blades, which are able to flex and return to their original shape under pressures that would see a katana bend permanently. (Another instance of katana's evolving to suite the style of fighting. A katana was expensive and often passed down through family lines, so you didn't want to damage it unnecessarily. European swords, on the other hand, were cheap in comparison so it didn't matter so much if your edge took on the appearance of a saw after too many fights, you'd just swap it out with a new blade.)

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Well, the broad sword is much thicker than the katana, so it would not break. And the katana resembles a scimitar or a straight sword much more than a curved broad sword.

And you really can't compare an arch, which disperses weight over an even surface, with a katana sword, which strikes at a single point and the energy resonates throughout the blade.

The curve mainly aids in the slicing of a target. I'm not sure if it has any significant advantage in terms of energy dispersion.
You're right about the slicing, but see above about the broad sword bit.

As for anime cliche's, I'd have to go with harem anime's. They all seem to have the same style and only differ on the details. For once I'd like to see a harem anime that doesn't rely on slapstick for it's comedy (although an occasional orbit inducing punch never goes astray), but rather wit, satire and sarcasm with a suitably normal male lead, somebody maybe like Haruhi Suzumiya's Kyon.
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Old 2008-09-10, 06:13   Link #217
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The curve may have that property (I'm not an engineer, so I couldn't say one way or the other), but I can tell you that's not the primary reason it evolved. The origin of the curve lies in the manner the sword was being used and how it cuts. Swords can't slice through things in the same manner as an ace, they don't have the mass for that. Think of how you use a knife to cut food, you move it back and forth which makes it easier to slice things. A good sword cut uses the same principle of moving the edge along the target. Curved swords such as the katana, the scimitar and the sabre evolved to maximise the efficiency of this cut. The sabre was developed by cavalry to make it easier to slash at infantrymen as they rode past them. Kenjutsu styles, as I understand them, emphasis strong cuts and so needed a highly efficient cutting blade. Enter the katana.

Incidentally, that would have to be one poorly made broadsword to break on impact with a katana. Katana's were thicker and more rigid than European blades, which were made flexible in order to absorb the impact of parrying the opponents blade. This extra thickness makes them much more rigid than European blades, which are able to flex and return to their original shape under pressures that would see a katana bend permanently. (Another instance of katana's evolving to suite the style of fighting. A katana was expensive and often passed down through family lines, so you didn't want to damage it unnecessarily. European swords, on the other hand, were cheap in comparison so it didn't matter so much if your edge took on the appearance of a saw after too many fights, you'd just swap it out with a new blade.)
Actually it was the otherway around.
First indigenous Japanese horses are only around 120Cm at the shoulder or about the size of a pony making them very bad choice for combat. So no, contrary to myths a caviary did not exsist in fudal Japan because Japan did not breed arabian thoroughbred in those days.
Second, Japanese swords of eariler design up to around 11th century AD were straight swords but battling with South Chinese marauders they noticed at each battle their straight swords(the steel composition also had flaws at that point) would break against the Sei-ryu swords.
The sword smiths through try and error found that straight swords were structually weaker than curved swords so they incorporated the Seiryu-to design.
The slicing technique with the katana were developed after the curved design not before and even after, most combat katana techniques in the battle field were primarly thrusts or tsuki and not cutting since the katana proved useless after cutting through three or four human flesh, bone and, fat.

The katana history actually divides into 4~5 eras starting with Ko-ko to(Very old swords), Ko-to(old swords), shin-to(new swords) and shin-shin to(very new sword) and the one forged in the 14~15th century(ko-to) were proven to be the worst since alot were created due to newly introduced cheap steel and high demand through the fudal warlords.
The strongest of swords are actually shin-shin to that were created after the Meji restoration since the sword smith were able to incorporate new western metallurgy and not rely on old oral instruction that may or may not be right.

This whole katana myth itself is a cliche to me.
If you study history through a more broader light you'll find tale told signs and not myths that sometime seeps into history books.
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Old 2008-09-10, 06:58   Link #218
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I don't know if japanese people are such hard/overworkers. But i'm seeing this in a lot of anime. ._.
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Old 2008-09-10, 14:01   Link #219
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I didn't see if all these were posted already, so I apologize if they are.

-An oblivious school student is granted magical powers, or a world-saving destiny for absolutely no reason.
-Unrealistic hair colors.
-Two people that argue over the most idiotic topics nonstop, later in the series fall in love after one saves or defends the other unexpectedly.
-Domestic disagreements are settled BY SWORDFIGHT. D:
-Unneccessary fanservice (not that I'm complaining. >_>)
-A defined good/evil character.


This is why I would pick Death Note over almost any anime.
I think I've become OCD about clichés.


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1) The anime girls can freakin punch a guy to the moon, but if a guy calls that girl a prick, not only is her feelings hurt, but the guy's best friend slaps the guy in the face asking has he ever considers the girl feelings. Perhaps the best friend should realize getting punched to the moon doesn't really feel so good. Basically put, the girls are never wrong or evil, they can be as whiney and b****** as they wanna be and it's perfectly fine.


2) How most black characters look like racist black face painting from the 60's, gotta do breakdancing or rapping, and has a 20 foot long penis that is only there to prey on innocent japanese chicks. *facepalm*
1) Does that make it okay to hit the girl too?
2) Are you aware that "black face" was well before the 1960's? You just showed your age, I think.
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