2010-11-23, 11:35 | Link #425 |
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I'd rather see the anime as a summarization of the novels, if you say so.
Not saying that the light novel is better, but if you don't feel like losing anything out from the anime, getting to the novels is a good option. In the first place, how can the anime be a different continuity to the light novels when they basically have the same plotline, with the other media basically becoming somewhat of a summarization of the other... ... By the way, if Touma can't trigger "that" flag on Kuroko in the official works, fanworks will make it happen. And God knows how the trope Sure, Why Not? can make things turn for the better or worse...
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2010-11-23, 11:40 | Link #426 | |
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But I'm not kidding about "if you're afraid of missing some things out, check the original media" statement either. I wouldn't be here had I didn't get revealed to me some stuff. (Actually most of it). Okay, back to Kuroko... Quote:
And besides... I don't know much about hospitals, but entering without knocking... come to think of it, how many of the people who visited Touma who was at the hospital actually even bothered to knock before entering...? Makes me think it's not a norm to knock before entering a patient's ward in this universe
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2010-11-23, 17:18 | Link #429 |
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I for one don't particularly care for the smug attitudes wrt interpretations of core materials, for that matter. Canon priority remains nonetheless, just as Harry Potter films don't supersede the novels. Trying to justify otherwise demonstrates nothing less than utter intellectual laziness...
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2010-11-23, 23:09 | Link #430 | |
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Speaking of knocking while entering a patients room, in all the times I've been to a hospital (har har), it was never a case of knocking, I always remember the hospital had to be treated like a library: keep it quiet. So I'd say definitely not Touma's fault, just a matter of bad timing, or bad luck in his case |
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2011-03-12, 09:30 | Link #431 |
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Arai Satomi makes it thourgh the Earthquake!! That best supporting-actress trophy for her performance as Kuroko-chan must have given her a LOT of good luck.
Good old Kuroko-chan, nothing can keep a Lovable Psycho-Lesbian down!!
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2011-03-24, 09:07 | Link #432 |
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On a half-seriou half-light note
On one side of the coin Kuroko-chan is a honorable, romantic, kind-hearted, adorable and responsible police officer. On the Fripside (sorry, just had to ) she is a possessive, obsessive, imamture, violent, selfish and creepy stalker. So overall, would Kuroko-chan count as a: 1) Lovable and adorably quirky, positive and heroic lesbian character. Or 2) A disgustigly negative and thoroughly politically-incorrect psycho-lesbian stereotype? Which one indeed?
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2011-03-24, 11:09 | Link #433 |
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That is a great question. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Kuroko is 1) for most actual lesbians and basically any person who can love and sympathise with lesbian characters, because beyond any question of stereotypes or political correctness we recognise her as strong and relatable and only human. I think people who answer 2) are simply buying into a general culture of shame and callousness which refuses to recognise natural parts of ourselves and so for that reason reject Kuroko as psychotic or stereotypical not out of an actual respect for real lesbians/lesbian characters, but rather their own refusal to acknowledge or accept imperfect parts of human nature. Regardless of one's thoughts on Kuroko's role or treatment in her story I think it is impossible and disingenuous to deny that Kuroko herself is a perfectly sympathetic and likeable character, so for that reason I would first take the act of dismissing Kuroko as a disgusting stereotype itself as the real negative and destructive attitude.
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2011-03-24, 18:31 | Link #436 |
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@Solfalling
Nicely put. Goes without saying that a large number of people who answer (2) will be fundamentalist-religious. But I wonder if there would be actual lesbians who also answer (2) because they might be put off by the violent/possessive stereotype?
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2011-03-24, 19:29 | Link #437 |
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Sure there are but the problem is you portrayed option 2 to the extreme of the spectrum. If you check pages before people agrees that the version of Kuroko exaggerated various of her antics killing the comic part of it.
And about the violence, I think there is no sense on arguing, various stereotypes in the anime are violent yet are loved by its public like the tsundere stereotype, heck, if yanderes has a good number as fandom... . |
2011-03-25, 04:34 | Link #438 |
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I would add a third option there : for people who understand that she is just a fictional character, that wasn't created with the intent to harass religious beliefs, to amplify political incorrectnes, nor to turn people who watch this series in lesbians. And for people like that she is a lovable, mature, comedic character, without which this show can't exist. (Misaka would most likely turn into a criminal on the run with no friends, except Touma)
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2011-03-25, 09:19 | Link #439 | |
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Here's the part he said it (It's somewhere down the bottom of part 3): http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...apter_4#Part_3 who says a lesbian has to love all girls?
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