2012-11-02, 13:29 | Link #2001 | |
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What is really disgusting is observing how this election is so close when really it shouldn't. Here we have Nixon v. 2.0 caught on camera lying and speaking his mind and still people chose to vote for him. You have to be flat out stupid in order to even consider voting for the guy. The fact that people will create an alternate reality just so they can ignore the facts is baffling to me. This really proves why Americans were dumb enough to elect Bush twice. If anything I am hoping that what happened in the year 2000 doesn't happen again.
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2012-11-02, 14:43 | Link #2003 | |
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No matter what though, even if someone feels that they can't decide on the Presidential candidate, please still vote for your local government. The fastest way to change the world always starts at home. Last edited by james0246; 2012-11-02 at 15:09. |
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2012-11-02, 16:24 | Link #2007 |
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Like I keep saying, this is a good election to vote Libertarian if you're a conservative who thinks more like Clint Eastwood, Christie, etc. (practical small government, etc). Its also a good election to vote Green if you think the Democrat move to 'center-right-corp' in the '90s has gotten out of hand.
The cages of the duopoly need rattling. In my case, I view the "christian zealot xenophobic right coupled with the new aristocracy' to be so dangerous to the future of the country - I feel like that problem has to be dealt with first before any other matter.
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2012-11-02, 16:48 | Link #2008 |
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Voting independent on the presidential ticket really won't do any good. It essentially really is just throwing away your vote as the media will undoubtedly not mention anything relating to that issue.
If you want to promote independent candidates, you have to start locally. Get independents into your local government first. Once you get enough of them a few of them can probably try for the state level positions. If independents can't even grab local seats then there's no way they would be able to do anything at the national level. |
2012-11-02, 16:51 | Link #2009 |
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Oh well, this things ends in 4 days and dont have to worry about it until 2 years later
But in other news, outside of a miracle, couple of states is going to legalize and taxed weed. I am not a weed smoker and I wont try it but if you passed a bill like this, this could be somewhat of a game changer.
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2012-11-02, 18:08 | Link #2011 | |
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Nice find.
Probably the best ad of the campaign. That's quite a nightmarish vision I must say. Quote:
Electing Bush twice remains the most baffling thing I've ever seen in my life; the guy is such a loser in life. When you look at the ideologies plaguing the GOP, no wonder why they have a bad streak of not-so-good/bad Presidents for most of the 20th Century except for Dwight D. Eisenhower, who spent so many years studying under Franklin D. Roosevelt before getting into politics years after FDR's death BTW. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2012-11-02 at 20:46. |
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2012-11-02, 18:45 | Link #2012 |
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In the Badger State, divided over and baffled by Obamacare
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A106Z20121102 Older voters prefer Romney on healthcare, Medicare: Reuters/Ipsos poll http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A11CR20121102 The reasons given, when there was one, sound pretty much BS to me. Edit: Mr. Burns Endorses Romney | The Simpsons | Animation on FOX
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2012-11-02, 18:51 | Link #2013 | |
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2012-11-02, 20:38 | Link #2014 | |
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2012-11-02, 21:02 | Link #2016 |
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Apathy can be why some states are "insert party here* "forever". California just redrew all the voting districts. Every seat in Congress is up for election (save Boxer's Senate seat). Not every new district is clearly Republican or Democratic yet. It is like starting over in some respects.
While I doubt California has shifted to the Republicans, this is a chance to make whatever voting statement you want for President and see what comes of it instead of just being apathetic and do nothing. Vote third party. Regardless of if you think it has a chance of not. Do it anyway. If the numbers start to shift because people are voting rather than not voting, things might change.
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2012-11-02, 21:09 | Link #2017 | |
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2012-11-02, 21:23 | Link #2018 | |
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2012-11-02, 21:41 | Link #2019 |
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The conservatives that can seem to be "fleeing" to Oregan and Washington.
Despite that, I'd say vote anyway. Reb, blue, green, yellow, black, whatever. Just vote for what you believe in, not what the press tells you to believe in. You want to vote for Obama, than vote for Obama. You want to vote for Romey, than vote for Romney. If you want to vote for Barr, vote for Barr (Rossanne Barr...Peace and Freedom Party). Just vote for someone, since we aren't given a "none of the above" option other than write in vote. Not voting tells them nothing and they assume it means you don't care, which is a good thing for them. You not caring mean they can get away with anytihing they want, because you don't care.
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Our economic woes can be traced back all the way to the creation of the federal reserve banking system in 1913. The people's money should never have been taken out of the control of the Treasury Department. Even Lewis understands this: Quote:
Obama has made the situation worse, and if elected, Romney will continue this trend with a war aginst Iran. The Dow Jones can go to 100,000 and the standard of living for the average American could be complete crap. We are wage slaves, even those of us that own a business are slaves to this fiat money system, so don't give me the "Savior Obama" garbage. The banks should not have been bailed out. The auto companies should not have been bailed out (they've been owned by foreign interests since the 1980s). If Bush or Obama wanted to save our economy they would have abolished the Fed, put us on a comodities based specie money system, and bailed out the American people by paying off the morgage debt to the banks. They would also have reinstated Glass-Steagall. Obama gave Bernanke unlimited power for Quantitative Easing, that means the dollar will become so worthless that private savings will be destroyed if this continues. So don't try and tell me what's happening. You wanna play blind man, go walk with the Shepard, as for me, my eyes are wide f*ck'n open. Quote:
Fiat bought Crystler so now the Italians own it, and GM is headed for disaster again. You see Neki, I'm alergic to propaganda from the RepubliDems, and don't buy into what their media sychophants spew on the television. That's why I voted (on Tuesday) all Libertarian across the board. From president of the US to Weld county commissioner in Colorado. ALL Libertarian. I will not waste my vote on either of the corporatist parties anymore. They have sold us down the river to international banking cartels, the military industrial complex, big-oil, big-pharma, and big-agra. They are NOT your friend and will do nothing to improve your life unless it improves the profit margins of their handlers: Obama included. As Eddie Grffin has said of Obama: Quote:
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