The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll [2009 added ep. 10]

[Heatth]

Again, I don't think is possible extend it too long because I don't think 5 episodes are too long. The book is not that small.

They always can show more of the filming, anyway. The parts that were skiped over in the novel.

[VentAileron]

Yes sir!

But honestly, if anyone would ask me which part of Haruhi I didn't like, relatively, compared to the other parts of the story, I would've said Sighs and

Spoiler:

Where did the Cat go?

, though I still don't understand why I don't like Sighs; it's a really funny story. The down parts? Uhh...it's just isn't that exciting compared to the other story arcs? But I wouldn't qualify that as a good argument. In other words, I can't put my finger on what makes Sighs worse than the other story arcs, that's why I'm interested in this.

EDIT:
It's too long and not a lot happens? Well...can't completely disagree with that, but it still doesn't feel like the reason I don't like Sighs. *sigh* I guess I'm just weird, since I honestly believe that's the reason, but it still doesn't feel right.

[Tyabann]

Oh, you've READ the books.

Well, then, the end of Chapter 4 is why no one likes Sighs.

[Heatth]

You mean Itsuki "talking too much about unconstructive stuff"? Or the scene in Tsuruya's home?

If it is the latter, this is the only reason I don't think Sighs sucks. And, seeing what many have posted, I thin most agree with me.

[Reckoner]

The reason I never liked Sighs was because I saw the anime before reading the novels. Because of that, it took out all the excitement of the arc since we already saw the finished product that is "the movie" and we already know the current condition of the SOS brigade...

[VentAileron]

*refreshes his memories by skimming through chapter 4*

Or is it the

Spoiler for A scene in the Sighs novel:

drugging part?

Maybe that went a little overboard...

Are we in the 'guess the scene that everyone hates the most' game?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Quit spoiling the rest of the story for the two non-novel readers the anime hasn't scared off yet.

[Jintor]

I haven't read Sighs more than once (Which is pretty unusual; I reread everything) so hopefully I've forgotten what happens. :3

[mokuseimaru]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Oh, you've READ the books.

Well, then, the end of Chapter 4 is why no one likes Sighs.

If I'm thinking of the same scene, then I have quite the opposite view. This is actually what I'm looking forward to most in Sigh,

Spoiler for spoiler:

because it shows Kyon getting some backbone, which he desperately needs after being so emasculated in E8

[thirdlc]

Watched the episode. The art style is based on the current Nishiya's touch, but also took from Yoneda's and Kadowaki's touches in the past. I think it got close enough to S1 in art style. However this ep failed to satisfy you?! I guess you have to wait for Ikeda Shoko to be animation director.

Speaking of Yoneda, if you watched Yoneda's works such as Melancholy II with those (over)critical eyes now, I'm certain you would definitely be bashing its art quality. Watching Ikeda's Melancholy VI again will surprise you too. That doesn't have consistent art quality at all. In the first place, while everyone should consider OP to be the most consistent-art-quality sequence, our Haruhi's old OP is not consistent and we can tell or guess who drew which shots comparatively easily. Haruhi is not like other shows of KyoAni.

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

I don't understand the head band's meaning(i watched afk subbed btw)... were they supported to be something completely random?

I can say the meanings of them are random. The letters themselves are what's important. One or two letters on a head band each member has on are part of his

Spoiler:

name.

Yeah, we got a hint about what Kyon's real name is.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Heatth

You mean Itsuki "talking too much about unconstructive stuff"? Or the scene in Tsuruya's home?

If it is the latter, this is the only reason I don't think Sighs sucks. And, seeing what many have posted, I thin most agree with me.

I don't mind the scene in Tsuruya's home as long as they don't play it the way that they did the tea for Kyon scene.

Spoiler for Novel 2, Chapter 4:

Haruhi's a terrible person in this particular scene - period. Trying to play it as cute and/or simply inexplicable eccentricity will ruin whatever impact the scene could have. Kyon is angry in this scene, and (for the most part) understandably so. As I wrote before, Haruhi is not supposed to be sugar and spice and everything nice - the anime shouldn't shy away from showing her dark side. One reason for this is that it's only through showing her dark side that you get a greater appreciation for what Kyon (and the rest) are going through. That builds drama, and can help to make Kyon's character look stronger.

As for Itsuki's exposition... it's actually pretty straightforward by his standards, imo. His ideas are not terribly hard to grasp, and make some sense, imo.

[OkamiNoKaze]

We may know that the outcome is the movie, but there are things that happened that are unexplained, Why does the cat talk? Why did Yuki jump on Mikuru after the first Mikuru Beam, how did they do the effect for the first Mikuru Beam, etc etc, plus as I said before, I'm the kind that likes to watch the special feature on DVDs, and this is like a behind the scenes of the making of the movie.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze

We may know that the outcome is the movie, but there are things that happened that are unexplained, Why does the cat talk? Why did Yuki jump on Mikuru after the first Mikuru Beam, how did they do the effect for the first Mikuru Beam, etc etc, plus as I said before, I'm the kind that likes to watch the special feature on DVDs, and this is like a behind the scenes of the making of the movie.

Since the universe go around Haruhi, can i assume that all of these are caused by Haruhi?

No, i didn't read the novel if it happens to be right

[zriL]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Since the universe go around Haruhi, can i assume that all of these are caused by Haruhi?

No, i didn't read the novel if it happens to be right

The question here is not "how", but it's more "why". Anyways, you can assume that everything is caused by Haruhi

[Ithekro]

It is also a matter of what. Just because we saw the finished product doesn't mean we saw or even understood the extent of just what Haruhi did. A lot of it was brushed over without comment by Kyon's narrative.

[Ja.]

Finally watched this episode (waiting for afk subs)
The art style really disappointed me, it's one of the things I loved (I ignored it for most of Endless Eight, but now that that's over I want my pretties back!)
The eyes, the hair, the proportions.... they made me sad. At least the episode was funny anyways, but while I was watching I couldn't shrug off the feeling of annoyance.
*sigh*

[Solachinx]

So, what did it say on the SOS Brigade's headbands for people like me who can't find the AFK subs?

[Heatth]

What do you mean by "cant find"? Just look at animesuki.com

Anyway:

Yuki - Filthy Rich
Haruhi - Indian Summer
Kyon - Nick of Time
Itsuki - All Time and Places
Mikuru - Without Precedent

No, I don't have idea what it means. However, as someone already pointed, the important might be the kanjis used, not the meaning. Itsuki and Uki hadband have a kanji that is also in their names. Haruhi and Mikuru have a kanji that could be used in their first names, if their names were writen in kanji. It is not unrasonable think Kyon's true name use one of the kanjis of his hadband.

Someone knows if were Tanigawas who write this 'prologue'? The hint would be false, otherwise.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Heatth

Someone knows if were Tanigawas who write this 'prologue'? The hint would be false, otherwise.

Tanigawa wrote the script for this episode, yes.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Heatth

Yuki - Filthy Rich
Haruhi - Indian Summer
Kyon - Nick of Time
Itsuki - All Time and Places
Mikuru - Without Precedent

I thought some of them were pretty applicable. Yuki is Filthy Rich from her given power. Maybe. Mikuru has no authority in her position (e.g. "*sniff sniff* classified information")- hence, without precedent. That's what I can take from it, i think their headbands are hilarious regardless.