2012-08-12, 10:03 | Link #1183 |
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A little surprised that nobody posted this:
Did anyone notice the crocodile slippers too? It was quite popular some time back for their comfort, but also had a tendency to get stuck in the corners of escalators. Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-08-12 at 11:31. Reason: please use tags for big images! |
2012-08-12, 10:35 | Link #1184 | |
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With Heartseed, we know exactly why this is happening and even the details of how it works (only affects them, happens randomly, etc). So the characters, as well as the audience, can stop wondering about this stuff and instead focus on how the characters are dealing with it. Not how to stop it of course, since it's well established to Heartseed is invincible, but just how to cope with it. Which happens to be the entirety of the story. |
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So I was wondering what the heck Inaba was typing up so fast when Taichi first went into the clubroom, and so it turned out to be a folder of some sort... (So is it fake typing? )
The image is small cuz I watch it on an anime hosting website.
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2012-08-12, 11:31 | Link #1187 |
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Actually, it looks like Inaba is working on Excel.
Also, she most likely claimed to have glanced to a NSW picture, in order not to let Taichi think she has lust for him.
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2012-08-12, 11:51 | Link #1189 |
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Forget Q, the ST: TNG you need to watch is "Where Silence Has Lease". The analog for Heartseed is definitely Nagilum.
I think a rejection of Heartseed is basically a rejection of Kokoro Connect, because Heartseed is basically the entire premise for the series. It's not a school romance or slice-of-life - it's a show about a mysterious entity and the experimentation he performs on a bunch of kids. Complaining that's he's an author's avatar or deux ex machina seems quite odd to me - what Heartseed does isn't plot convenience, it's just plot. If you don't like the plot, that's fine - but why would you expect something different? It's like saying "I like Moby Dick except for the whole whale thing." And I heartily agree that the writing treatment of teenaged males in anime today is atrocious, one of the biggest problems facing the medium. KC isn't good in the respect - there are shows that are far worse, but that doesn't let KC off the hook. And the whole concept of playing girls beating up boys for comedy is tired, insulting and unfunny. This series is usually very good at drama and very weak at comedy, and the latter is never more evident than when they play the violent teenage girl card.
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2012-08-12, 12:41 | Link #1190 | |
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This story is taking the basic building blocks of storytelling and drama and throwing them in our face in the most plain and inelegant ways, as if to say "this is the ugly truth of what authors do all the time when writing stories, and I'm not going to bother trying to hide it at all". And in the process is showcasing the "ugly truth" (or is it a beautiful truth?) of how human empathy can overcome even that sort of manipulation; the characters are being manipulated, we're being manipulated, but we can still care for these "people" anyway! I can't decide if the author is extremely cynical, or extremely wise... maybe both. (All that to say, I agree with what others have said: there's nothing to fix. What's broken isn't the show, it's us. We're only just starting to figure that out.)
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2012-08-12, 12:43 | Link #1191 | ||
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2012-08-12, 12:47 | Link #1192 | |
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A thought: Yui stayed home the day Heartseed explained the new situation. I wonder if Inaba's comment that hiding in their rooms probably wouldn't work was made in reference to her.
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Taichi's narration suggests she was probably working on the club newsletter. What immediately preceded her sudden impulse was teasing Taichi; specifically him commenting on her joke about "taking out her frustrations" on him. We didn't get to hear the voice in her head, but I don't think we need to in this case. |
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2012-08-12, 12:51 | Link #1193 |
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I agree that rejecting Heartseed in a series like this (whose entire premise can only go up regarding explanation) is basically rejecting the series itself, but I think adding something more to his story would truly make the series stand out. This way he's just there and we'll probably know about him in the end as much as we know now. I feel that's a wasted opportunity.
To give them some credit, Inaba hit Yui once for doing something dumb, it's just that the guys tend to say more things that don't sit well with them. I noticed them right away! Didn't expect to see them in anime. |
2012-08-12, 13:49 | Link #1194 | ||
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The way I see it, Heartseed isn't so much part of the premise as he is a justification for the premise, and a poor one at that. The story's focal point lies in the interactions between the main cast in response to certain conditions. HS is more of a periphery element rather than a crucial point in the story. The way things are, you could probably replace HS without affecting the story's content at all. The author may as well take all the plot twists and hooks that come up and claim that an alien did it, particularly one named "Heartseed". Oh, and that part about HS being the author's avatar wasn't a complaint. In fact, I would find it pretty clever if the author wrote him into the story with that intention in mind. But it wouldn't help its quality as a story. The reason why things like deus ex machina and melodrama are generally frowned upon is because there are writers who are unable to justify plot and character developments believably in a manner that retains the audience's suspension of disbelief. This here is a similar case. Quote:
For now, it looks like the best way for me to enjoy this show is to view Heartseed as an entity that exists outside the story, a sort of meta existence that pulls the strings behind the scenes. Then, I'd interpret him as a reference to the omnipotence and omniscience that an author holds over the characters of a story, something like Sophie's World if anyone here knows about it.
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2012-08-12, 13:54 | Link #1195 |
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I am hoping in the end we do get to find out more of Heartseed's motivation, is he just being obnoxious for the sake of it or has he got some hidden agenda which, when revealed, will show his actions in a new light?
As an aside, am I the only person here who gets completely sick and tired of people crying "emasculation, emasculation" all the time on this and other threads? |
2012-08-12, 15:47 | Link #1197 |
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http://kokoro-connect.com/release/bddvd_7.html
Confirmed from the official Kokoro Connect website that the series is 17 episodes. Woot~~ Love odd numbered shows!
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2012-08-12, 15:51 | Link #1198 | |
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So anyway, to me, the "pretty bad" "haphazard" writing is part of the meta-narrative of the work. If the writing were "good" (by common definitions), I don't know that it would communicate the same point (to me anyway) about how we're all just puppets in someone else's play. The story itself is an image of the message. That doesn't mean we have to like it; in fact, maybe we shouldn't like it. But I think it's somehow compelling at the same time.
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