[Manga] Chapter 353 Discussion

[Hunter]

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[Justice Knight]

i really hope the spoiler for

Spoiler for this chp:

NARUTO team VS Itachi/kisame VS TEAM snake

is true.....

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by Justice Knight

i really hope the spoiler for

Spoiler for this chp:

NARUTO team VS Itachi/kisame VS TEAM snake

is true.....

I haven't seen any spoiler with this scenario. If you have it, post the summary.


I'm going to put all the spoilers submitted thus far for convenience. The spoiler tags are just to save space

Spoiler for spoiler#1:

簡易バレ投下　今回蛇サイドなし
Simple Spoiler Released, No Team Snake this time

木の葉サイドでくだくだ
The Konoha side is lengthy
ナルト、無駄にテンション高
Naruto is in high spirits for nothing
小隊は暗部中心になりそう
It seems the platoon will be centered around the ANBU
イタチ（？）サイド
Switch to Itachi?
イタチらしき人物、どっかの偉いさんに密書（？）を渡す
A person who looks like Itachi, sits down & passes a note to an important person
唐突に８班サイド
Suddenly switches to Team 8
紅の代わりにアンコが入ったらしい
Seems Anko has joined in place of Kurenai
シノはいない
Shino is gone
茶店でだんご食ってる（休憩中？）
They are eating dangos at the tea shop (In the midst of a break?)
ヒナタが空を見上げて「ナルトくん…
Hinata is looking up at the sky [Naruto-kun...]
アンコの足首に何かひっついたところで終わり
Chapter ends with something stuck to Anko's ankle.

Spoiler for spoiler#2:

Front page with Itachi and Kisame

Scene opens with Team Snake
Sasuke:Karin, have you found him yet?

(Karin's hands seals formed with eyes closed)
Karin:.......
Two scene shots with what her vision technique is while searching for Itachi's chakra.

Scene flips back to Konoha
Shizune (Shouting): That is crazy Naruto! Tsunade, you cannot allow him to go out there when Itachi is the one searching for him. Do you know what......

(Tsunade cutting off Shizune very calmly)
Tsunade: I know Shizune. I would not have called Naruto here if I did not have a plan after hearing this news. (She turns to Naruto)
Shizune still having the objective look on her face
Tsundae: Naruto, you are still not yet capable of battling someone with the Sharingan, let alone to take on Itachi. I'm sure you remember how the battle went the last time you went one on one with someone possessing the Sharingan.
(Naruto looks down with remorse and flashes back to his fight with Sasuke)
Tsunade: And I'm sure you remember the abilities that Itachi used on you when you traveled to rescue the KazeKage.
(Naruto flashes back to his fight with Kakashi and him against Itachi clone)
Narutoshouting resilently) That doesn't matter now! I know Sasuke has gotten stronger since the last time he fought Itachi, but I have seen what Itachi can do now. I'm ready for him this time!
Tsunade: I analyzed that body myself, and I found out that whatever jutsu was used to make that guy fight like Itachi was incredibly power, but still had a limit. From what I could tell, that body couldn't handle that much chakra..... so whatever you expect of Itachi right now is an understatment!
(Naruto looks shocked and angry)
Sakura:...But Tsunade-sama, Naruto has gotten stronger since his new jutsu training. He did defeat an AK memebr, doesn't that count for something?
Jiraiya:From my sources, that was Kakuzu that you battled. And in ranking, he is below Itachi in power.
(Naruto still looking down angry)
Naruto: So what am I suppose to do! I won't let Sasuke throw his life away!
Tsunade: Which brings us to why I called you here in the first place.
(Kakashi walks in the door)
Naruto: Huh?

Scene changes to Itachi and Kisame
Rains hits the ground in puddles.
Kisame: So which one do we go for? We are the only team to yet turn in a Jinnruki.
Itachi:.....
Kisame looks at Itachi waiting for a decision.
Itachi: It doesn't matter which one we bring right now, you choose.
Kisamewith a grin on his face).... Well..... I still haven't gotten my revenge for that kick yet.... (he looks at Itachi)
Itachi:Then that is where we go.

scene flips to Karin
(Karin's opens her eyes wide)
Karin:Found them!
Sasuke: Alright team Snake, we move out!

Back in Konoha
Sakura:What do you mean Tsunade-sama?
Jiraiya:Naruto, if you really want to save Sasuke, and defeat Itachi. Then you must be able to defeat me.
Kakashi:You have one day to get stronger and then........
(Scene shot on Jiraiya's face)
Jiraiya: And then see if you can handle me!

Next Chapter: AK moves heads towards their target, unaware that Team Snake has started their mission.

Spoiler 1 is sparse and has little action, but this could be because it is a rough summary and not an overall translation of the dialogue. Still, it comes from a source known for posting false spoilers.

Spoiler 2 already contains a pretty big plot hole as Rahan pointed out because it mentions Tsunade studying corpses Zetsu is said to have
eaten. Pretty certain this one is fake.

[epyon96]

Originally Posted by spoiler 2

Jiraiya:From my sources, that was Kakuzu that you battled. And in ranking, he is below Itachi in power.

Wow. This is the first statement indicating some sort of ranking system or degrees of power levels in Akatsuki. Is this a nod towards the Espada ranking system in Bleach?

[-KarumA-]

whahaha Team Snake cracks me up XD

[Hunter]

The two first spoilers are blatantly fake, the 3rd and last one seemed to be the true thing.

[ChojinLocke]

Third one? Post it if you have seen it somewhere.

[Sabaku Kyu]

spoiler #3

By Sho from NF:

ジャンプあげたから記憶
I gave out the Jump issue, so this is what I remember from it

鬼鮫さん登場
Kisame-san makes an appearance

イタチと何か喋ってる
He is talking to Itachi about something

暁達の会議
There's a meeting of Akatsuki

て、言うか来週は暁会議ばっかりです
Basically the whole week's issue consists of just the Akatsuki meeting

水月に興味を示すデイダラ
Deidara shows an interest in Suigetsu

肝心の水月はまたへばっていた
There's also Suigetsu being tired again

終わり

[xcad]

whats the reason behind suigetsu's tireness?

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by xcad

whats the reason behind suigetsu's tireness?

I guessing because he's mostly water, he gets dehydrated very easily. That's why he carries the water bottle.

[ChojinLocke]

He also carries that huge sword which doesnt make it any easier for him.

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Then i guess our Godaime Kazekage can easily defeat him...especially when he fights in the desert

[abazou]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

Then i guess our Godaime Kazekage can easily defeat him...especially when he fights in the desert

I think he didnt show his potential yet.

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

There is a new spoiler and this seems the most realistic so i'll post it:

Spoiler for 353:

Front page with Itachi and Kisame

Scene opens with Team Snake
Sasuke:Karin, have you found him yet?

(Karin's hands seals formed with eyes closed)
Karin:.......
Two scene shots with what her vision technique is while searching for Itachi's chakra.

Scene flips back to Konoha
Shizune (Shouting): That is crazy Naruto! Tsunade, you cannot allow him to go out there when Itachi is the one searching for him. Do you know what......

(Tsunade cutting off Shizune very calmly)
Tsunade: I know Shizune. I would not have called Naruto here if I did not have a plan after hearing this news. (She turns to Naruto)
Shizune still having the objective look on her face
Tsundae: Naruto, you are still not yet capable of battling someone with the Sharingan, let alone to take on Itachi. I'm sure you remember how the battle went the last time you went one on one with someone possessing the Sharingan.
(Naruto looks down with remorse and flashes back to his fight with Sasuke)
Tsunade: And I'm sure you remember the abilities that Itachi used on you when you traveled to rescue the KazeKage.
(Naruto flashes back to his fight with Kakashi and him against Itachi clone)
Narutoshouting resilently) That doesn't matter now! I know Sasuke has gotten stronger since the last time he fought Itachi, but I have seen what Itachi can do now. I'm ready for him this time!
Tsunade: I analyzed that body myself, and I found out that whatever jutsu was used to make that guy fight like Itachi was incredibly power, but still had a limit. From what I could tell, that body couldn't handle that much chakra..... so whatever you expect of Itachi right now is an understatment!
(Naruto looks shocked and angry)
Sakura:...But Tsunade-sama, Naruto has gotten stronger since his new jutsu training. He did defeat an AK memebr, doesn't that count for something?
Jiraiya:From my sources, that was Kakuzu that you battled. And in ranking, he is below Itachi in power.
(Naruto still looking down angry)
Naruto: So what am I suppose to do! I won't let Sasuke throw his life away!
Tsunade: Which brings us to why I called you here in the first place.
(Kakashi walks in the door)
Naruto: Huh?

Scene changes to Itachi and Kisame
Rains hits the ground in puddles.
Kisame: So which one do we go for? We are the only team to yet turn in a Jinnruki.
Itachi:.....
Kisame looks at Itachi waiting for a decision.
Itachi: It doesn't matter which one we bring right now, you choose.
Kisamewith a grin on his face).... Well..... I still haven't gotten my revenge for that kick yet.... (he looks at Itachi)
Itachi:Then that is where we go.

scene flips to Karin
(Karin's opens her eyes wide)
Karin:Found them!
Sasuke: Alright team Snake, we move out!

Back in Konoha
Sakura:What do you mean Tsunade-sama?
Jiraiya:Naruto, if you really want to save Sasuke, and defeat Itachi. Then you must be able to defeat me.
Kakashi:You have one day to get stronger and then........
(Scene shot on Jiraiya's face)
Jiraiya: And then see if you can handle me!

Next Chapter: AK moves heads towards their target, unaware that Team Snake has started their mission.

Definitely fake, for 1 too many flash back's Naruto has a back to back flash back that’s not Kishimoto's style. Secondly because of its in-depth detail even to the point of facial expression, the wording seems bad it doesn’t fit the characters and once again the way it flow's is just not Kishimoto's writing. (Also, plot hole anyone?)

Spoiler for Possible Spoiler For Naruto Manga 353:

I gave out the Jump issue, so this is what I remember from it

Kisame-san makes an appearance

He is talking to Itachi about something

There's a meeting of Akatsuki

Basically the whole week's issue consists of just the Akatsuki meeting

Deidara shows an interest in Suigetsu

There's also Suigetsu being tired again

End

Most likely, fake. Here's why I think all 3 of these are fake. The first spoiler I posted in the original 353 discussion, is from Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki from NF, the second spoiler Johnny posted in the original 353 discussion is from Kdol from NF, the third spoiler which Sabaku Kyu just posted is also from yep you guessed it, Sho NF.

>_> Notice something common about all these posters? This tells me that place is full of people who gets their kicks from releasing fake spoilers cause they have nothing better to do with their lives. None the less, I'll keep watching for one that’s confirmed by H. (However, the 3rd spoiler seems some what creditable then again for all we know all 3 posters could be the same person o_o)

Additional Spoiler:

By Sho from NF:

Suigetsu is one of the brothers of "Hoosugi"* of Kirigakure.

The title for next week is, "Approaching"

Only Karin's name doesn't come up

Orochimaru being defeated by Sasuke is talked about. They also address the matter of two of their Akatsuki members were killed.

Though I'm glad there's no scene of Konoha...it's a shame hahahaha



(I guess this is connected to the third spoiler)

[That Other Ninja]

Why the hell do these morons make fake spoilers anyway? I don't get the logic behind this nonsense... like "omg i'm going to screw with all these fans so I get some kicks out of it!" Stupid.

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by 0TaKu0

>_> Notice something common about all these posters? This tells me that place is full of people who gets their kicks from releasing fake spoilers cause they have nothing better to do with their lives. None the less, I'll keep watching for one that’s confirmed by H. (However, the 3rd spoiler seems some what creditable then again for all we know all 3 posters could be the same person o_o)

It's tricky. When it comes to fake spoilers, Naruto has the worst problems. Bleach and One Piece get far fewer. But I don't think it's so much that the all the people on NF are trying fool anyone. I've seen spoilers from NF turn out to be true. It's just that a lot of people belong to NF and most are secondary sources just posting spoilers that they've found (most likely through 2ch). Some people seem to have much more reliable sources or direct access to Shounen Jump issues like Himajin, so they can be better trusted to provide accurate info.

Unfortunately, an early confirmation from Himajin is rare. Mostly, it's a hit-or-miss deal.

[Inferno Phoenyx]

Hmmm..... less action in both spoilers. I hope there's more and Team Snake is stupid, somewhat.

[Rahan]

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

It's tricky. When it comes to fake spoilers, Naruto has the worst problems. Bleach and One Piece get far fewer. But I don't think it's so much that the all the people on NF are trying fool anyone.

Actually, I am surprised by the low number of spoilers this week. There was no chapter last week, so I was waiting a rain of fakes, but we are already wedsneday and we have only 3 of them while we sometimes had up to 10 fakes lately. I am actually wondering if one of those fake-looking spoilers is true.

[Sazelyt]

Originally Posted by Rahan

Actually, I am surprised by the low number of spoilers this week. There was no chapter last week, so I was waiting a rain of fakes, but we are already wedsneday and we have only 3 of them while we sometimes had up to 10 fakes lately.

With the way the story going, most probably, the spoiler creators also got bored.

Let's see at the end of the previous chapter a storm was approaching where Itachi and Kisame were. Hopefully, the storm will result in a clean sweep of the snakes.

[DeDe]

Originally Posted by 0TaKu0

Most likely, fake. Here's why I think all 3 of these are fake. The first spoiler I posted in the original 353 discussion, is from Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki from NF, the second spoiler Johnny posted in the original 353 discussion is from Kdol from NF, the third spoiler which Sabaku Kyu just posted is also from yep you guessed it, Sho NF.

>_> Notice something common about all these posters? This tells me that place is full of people who gets their kicks from releasing fake spoilers cause they have nothing better to do with their lives. None the less, I'll keep watching for one that’s confirmed by H. (However, the 3rd spoiler seems some what creditable then again for all we know all 3 posters could be the same person o_o)

KGS doesn't create the spoilers. He just copies them from 2ch and a few other places. He knows most of them are fanfic. But fake spoilers can be entertaining. Hexa usually gets the correct spoiler. I doubt Sho is someone esle. He doesn't post that many spoilers anyway.

The first spoiler was just a NaruHinatard fanfic. The third one is likely real.

Going on that, I don't mind a total Akatsuki chapter. Dei is interesting in Sui? I guess we will have a new Yaoi pairing. Maybe more on the Blue Hair and AL.

It also sounds like they talk about Kakuzu and Hidan which puts a nice bow on the Team 10/Kakuzu Hidan arc. They seem to think Hidan was killed though, so maybe we get an explanation about his immortality or apparent lack thereof from the AL. I keep remembering Kakuzu say no one is immortal. So hopefully this will be cleared up and the deer don't have to watch that hole anymore.