Tokyo's Youth Ordinance Bill

[bhl88]

Is he pro-bill 156 or anti-bill 156, though?

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by bhl88

Is he pro-bill 156 or anti-bill 156, though?

As far as I know he's taken no public position on it, nor would I have expected him to. I suspect he probably doesn't consider it an especially important issue and wouldn't have bothered to raise it if he'd been in a position to have done so.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

As far as I know he's taken no public position on it, nor would I have expected him to. I suspect he probably doesn't consider it an especially important issue and wouldn't have bothered to raise it if he'd been in a position to have done so.

Aye... honestly, the bill is "attacking a non-existent problem" to divert attention or engage the Japan equivalent of the "soccer mom" (the US version of witch-burning clueless "think of the children" failed-at-critical-thinking-skills idiots). Pardon my rancor there but after a number of years of parent volunteering in various teen activities with this sort -- that type just makes me see red.

Most reasonable politicians would shoo it off into a "committee study" where it would die a quiet death while they focused on the important stuff - like quality of daily living, building codes, better mass transport, business-friendly, etc.

[Kameruka]

This bill is the main reason that I won't see something like Yosuga no Sora again, unless its a porn like Renketsu Houshiki.

[Luk_008]

Dan kanemitsu's Update
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/20...-axis-shifted/

[-Breakthrough-]

So basically, what I can understand from that post ::

-Matsuzawa wasn't so popular with the polls, hence why Ishihara took over for him.

-Hideo has no plans with trying to nullify Bill 156 but he doesn't seem to support it either. He seems more neutral/critical/careful when it comes to subjects such as this.

[Guardian Enzo]

I don't think you can make any assumptions about Hideo's plans one way or the other. He's from the entertainment industry and has never shown any proclivity towards being anti-otaku, so it might be reasonable to hope he'd oppose 156, but hope is not expectation. A more realistic possibility is that his government might simply ignore 156 and pretend it doesn't exist. It's unenforceable in its current form anyway, so that might be his approach.

The key issue is whether the elections will be postponed. It seems insane to me to think you'd try to hold them as scheduled what with power and transportation issues on top of everything else, but the sooner they're held the better it will be for Ishihara.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I don't think you can make any assumptions about Hideo's plans one way or the other. He's from the entertainment industry and has never shown any proclivity towards being anti-otaku, so it might be reasonable to hope he'd oppose 156, but hope is not expectation. A more realistic possibility is that his government might simply ignore 156 and pretend it doesn't exist. It's unenforceable in its current form anyway, so that might be his approach.

The key issue is whether the elections will be postponed. It seems insane to me to think you'd try to hold them as scheduled what with power and transportation issues on top of everything else, but the sooner they're held the better it will be for Ishihara.

Aye.. there are plenty of laws "on the books" that are utterly ignored by the authorities in many countries as well as Japan.

[synaesthetic]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Aye... honestly, the bill is "attacking a non-existent problem" to divert attention or engage the Japan equivalent of the "soccer mom" (the US version of witch-burning clueless "think of the children" failed-at-critical-thinking-skills idiots). Pardon my rancor there but after a number of years of parent volunteering in various teen activities with this sort -- that type just makes me see red.

Most reasonable politicians would shoo it off into a "committee study" where it would die a quiet death while they focused on the important stuff - like quality of daily living, building codes, better mass transport, business-friendly, etc.

Reasonable politicians like these exist?

Well, I hope we can get some of them in the US to keep AT&T from eating T-Mobile...

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Reasonable politicians like these exist?

Well, I hope we can get some of them in the US to keep AT&T from eating T-Mobile...

I think all our "reasonable" politicians have died or been pastured....

because yeah, no matter what promises are delivered, that merger is going to be a fail for the consumer. I've already complained to my rep and two senators.

[MisaoFan]

Seven days ago, it's the preparation of self-regulation amendment, which will take into full effect in July.

[bhl88]

Yeah... no one will stop it now (ACE was meant to oppose the ban after all).

And after it comes into full effect, it'll be ignored and thrown into the dustbin (won't be enforced).

[Guardian Enzo]

Interestingly, I saw Hideo Higashikokubaru campaigning today - in Akiba. I'm sure Ishihara would never show his face there of all places. Hideo was drawing a big crowd but I have no idea what was being said. Whether he campaigned there specifically to draw some of the anti-156 vote I don't know. AFAIK the polls say Ishihara is going to win, unfortunately.

[flying ^]

Originally Posted by MisaoFan

Seven days ago, it's the preparation of self-regulation amendment, which will take into full effect in July.

here's the latest scoop
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/0...on-loli-manga/

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Interestingly, I saw Hideo Higashikokubaru campaigning today - in Akiba.

I now have this mental image of him standing on Chūō-dōri wearing a maid outfit and handing out "Vote for Me" flyers

(And dammit, just reading your post makes me wish I could go back for another visit - hope you're having a great time over there!)

[Mr. Wang]

Originally Posted by Vexx

I think all our "reasonable" politicians have died or been pastured....

I agree, and I've said it before, and I'll say it again (just think of our "modern" politicians):

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying all the wrong remedies."

I swear, even though it's been a couple months since I've last visited this thread (about a week since the bill was approved) there is still lots of controversy and activity going on that's directly or indirectly involved with this bill... I'm surprised...

Question: I apologize, as I haven't read the past 10 pages or so and they might yield answers, but thus far, I haven't noticed anything affecting... America and the distribution of Japanese medias such as anime and manga just yet. I realize that substantial things won't exactly occur until much later, perhaps in months or even next year (in which case, it'd really be the end of the world for me) but is there any idea how and when this might affect American distribution of anime and manga in the future? Sorry if this question's been raised a hundred times before, it's my fault I haven't been exactly updating myself on this thread.

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wang

Question: I apologize, as I haven't read the past 10 pages or so and they might yield answers, but thus far, I haven't noticed anything affecting... America and the distribution of Japanese medias such as anime and manga just yet. I realize that substantial things won't exactly occur until much later, perhaps in months or even next year (in which case, it'd really be the end of the world for me) but is there any idea how and when this might affect American distribution of anime and manga in the future? Sorry if this question's been raised a hundred times before, it's my fault I haven't been exactly updating myself on this thread.

The only effect this might have is that in a year's time you might see certain genres simply disappearing since the titles are shot down before they are even published in japan let alone the rest of the world. That's all up to two things: if the bill is actually implemented or everyone just turns a blind eye to it and if the japanese publishers start self-censoring or not.

IMHO the problem with the bill isn't that it targets child porn or incest (which it doesn't actually target as well as the previous law) but that it targets a wide arrange of intimate relationship types that could be used in good storytelling but now may never be due to fear of the law (even if it doesn't get enforced people will still be apprehensive due to it).

[Isegrim]

According to various sources (NHK, Asahi, Yomiuri), Ishihara has been reelected. Not really surprising to me, taking in account Japan's nonexistant public sphere (Habermas). If you believe that the NHK is run by Zainichi Koreans and that the Asahi Shimbun is printing the chinese communist party's propaganda, voting for that old populist seems to be a good choice.

[ninryu]

They are still pushing this issue? Don't they have more important and useful things to do? Like, I don't know, making new nuclear reactors building rules?

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Simon

I now have this mental image of him standing on Chūō-dōri wearing a maid outfit and handing out "Vote for Me" flyers

(And dammit, just reading your post makes me wish I could go back for another visit - hope you're having a great time over there!)

He was dressed in a very boring suit. And yes, I'm having a great time, thanks - though Ishihara has been reelected.

Interestingly, I did see Kyuubey campaigning for the incumbent in Akiba...