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Old 2008-02-26, 05:31   Link #1
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Mecha in Real Life

Well, oneday when i'm wandering around in the internet i found this :

http://www.mechaps.com/
http://www.sakakibara-kikai.co.jp/products/other/LW.htm

What do you think? Will they succeed in bringin anime-style mecha into real life? Or even for military purpose?

Well, looks like it's not impossible to do so. Say, long ago people think it's impossible to fly and now... airplanes everywhere. So, maybe we'll see those mechas in real life quite soon too. I wonder how it will affect the world, moreover from the military view...
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Old 2008-02-26, 05:49   Link #2
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Pretty sweet. Hope they will do it.
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:09   Link #3
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Well, someday when i'm wandering around in the internet i found this :

http://www.mechaps.com/
http://www.sakakibara-kikai.co.jp/products/other/LW.htm

What do you think? Will they succeed in bringin anime-style mecha into real life? Or even for military purpose?

Well, looks like it's not impossible to do so. Say, long ago people think it's impossible to fly and now... airplanes everywhere. So, maybe we'll see those mechas in real life quite soon too. I wonder how it will affect the world, moreover from the military view...
they need to make it look like a gundam
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:10   Link #4
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:24   Link #5
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they have a vid of a test of it somewhere on youtube i seen it awhile back.So people are making more weapons to kill each other with how sad. i want the blueprints so i can burn them and blow the mecha up
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:35   Link #6
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Checked the video of the walking mecha in the second link and i loled at the second link.

The speed of it moving... I'm sure a senior would even out walk it. Also the way it moves.. It's not lifting it's foot up, it's just sliding/pushing it forward... Might as well put wheels under it. It might go faster that way to... And it's wobbling a lot when moving... I wonder how it's gone get up when it tumbles over

I don't think the military would have much use for mecha's. The humanoid form isn't the most efficient for combat. Gundam looks neat and all. But in a combat something this large and sticking out like a tower probably won't last to long.. Nor will the aerodynamics's help it with speed
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:50   Link #7
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Well, looks like it's not impossible to do so. Say, long ago people think it's impossible to fly and now... airplanes everywhere. So, maybe we'll see those mechas in real life quite soon too. I wonder how it will affect the world, moreover from the military view...
Didn't we had a similar discussion few years back?
Nevertheless, i know that john deere did build a prototype forestry machine few years back, with six legs. But never hear of iot since.
Giant humanoid machines for combat? Nah, even for construction work you probably want machines with more than two legs.
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:54   Link #8
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Checked the video of the walking mecha in the second link and i loled at the second link.
Yeah, i'm kinda surprised too. I hope it's a REAL gattling gun...

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The speed of it moving... I'm sure a senior would even out walk it. Also the way it moves.. It's not lifting it's foot up, it's just sliding/pushing it forward... Might as well put wheels under it. It might go faster that way to... And it's wobbling a lot when moving... I wonder how it's gone get up when it tumbles over
The Sakakibara's one kinda slow, what'll you expect from 250cc engine? Looks like MPS will use quite a powerful engine (http://www.mechaps.com/gallery/main....=302&g2_page=2 - "That HONDA Robot"? lol)...
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Old 2008-02-26, 06:57   Link #9
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I've always find the whole concept of mechs utterly ridiculous. We have tanks in real life for a good reason. The main idea of modern ground warfare is to remain unnoticed for as long as possible, using the ground as a cover as best as you can. With a mech, you would be pretty much shouting to your enemy "hello, I'm here, please shoot me!"

Add the facts that a mech could probably never reach the kind of movement speeds that tanks do. A mech would be also very unstable and the feet would be fragile with lots of moving joints. Such a target would be quite easy to immobilize and destroy. And flying mechs? Well... I think it should be pretty obvious that you can't make a human shaped robot fly as well as a plane does. In space you wouldn't have to care about the atmospheric drag but I still can't think of any reason to use mechs in space either. So why would anyone want to use mechs on a battlefield in the first place?
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:00   Link #10
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Why? Because they would look cool. Aesthetics are very effective in causing fear or awe. But, yes, IRL they would not be a viable option for war.
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:10   Link #11
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I've always find the whole concept of mechs utterly ridiculous. We have tanks in real life for a good reason. The main idea of modern ground warfare is to remain unnoticed for as long as possible, using the ground as a cover as best as you can.
Think armoured infantry, heavy and large enough to carry mobile artillery guns. Or at least tank calibre weapons. In terms of mobility across multiple terrain, tanks are vastly inferior to infantry. The US had problems deploying M1A1 tanks in the Balkans, for example. The terrain severely limited their effectiveness.

Of course, war mecha remains very much a geek's pipe dream. But I wouldn't mind developing mecha for heavy industrial operations, like mining or deep-sea exploration. Also, if you're going to design a truly stable, multi-leg platform, you need at least six legs, not two.
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:42   Link #12
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Nevertheless, i know that john deere did build a prototype forestry machine few years back, with six legs. But never hear of iot since.
That's probably way more viable. I'm eagerly waiting for Masamune Shirow-styled tanks to appear.

But we'll have to do cyberbrains first, otherwise where will the fun be in it? :/
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:12   Link #13
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I've always find the whole concept of mechs utterly ridiculous. We have tanks in real life for a good reason. The main idea of modern ground warfare is to remain unnoticed for as long as possible, using the ground as a cover as best as you can. With a mech, you would be pretty much shouting to your enemy "hello, I'm here, please shoot me!"
OMG the colour schemes, some of them are worse then the British redcoats
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:37   Link #14
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I once heard that if Teduka ever saw Ashimo developed by Honda that he would have probably requested for a pointed hairdo.
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:41   Link #15
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I PREFER A PERSOCOM THAT LOOKS LIKE CHII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cuz what could i do with a gundam if the world is against me

and also i dont want to kill i want to have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2008-02-26, 09:06   Link #16
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I really don't think Mecha's would be a very good asset for war, first of all, its slow, second of all, it can lose balance and not take as much of a beating as a tank (for example), third of all, its huge as heck.

If i were to make a blind guess, i would say they'd do best in hazardous and heavy work, like handling radioactive material, or mining in hazardous environments
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Old 2008-02-26, 10:08   Link #17
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They are trying to move away from MANNED vehicles...
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Old 2008-02-26, 10:59   Link #18
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If someone is interested to see the john deere machine in action, go to youtube and look for "john deere walking tractor"

or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1h3vcLybfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwR3O7JSfWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gk-yQ1H3M8
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Old 2008-02-26, 11:28   Link #19
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I am sure that Hideo Kojima would be more than happy to help make one. ^_^
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Old 2008-02-26, 14:34   Link #20
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