(L) Arslan Senki (The Heroic Legend of Arslan) [Anticipation]

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Let the floodgates of complaint open.

:P Given that there's only a handful or even less people around here who are even aware that this is not an Arakawa original story, you know fully well that it's not going to happen, at least not here. (Which is all the more frustrating for me, oh well.)

That said, bleh and even more bleh. I hope whoever does the art adaptation will give the character and world designs more individuality than they have in the manga. (Also, please get rid of Daryun's ponytail.) Also, I really really really hope they won't follow the manga's humor and its handling of emotional scenes.

Oh yes, and I hope they'll ignore the first chapter, it was bad enough to read in the manga, I'd rather not see it again...

Sigh, this is really disappointing for me, but of course I'm going to watch because it's Arslan. :/ Now to wonder about the casting...

[Natsuki Hyuga]

Also, high chance this will be Nichigo, for those who are interested. CM aired just after Nanatsu finished airing.

Poor Haikyuu fans hoping for s2 this Spring... EDIT: Then again, it's not confirmed to air in Spring, what am I saying lol.

Still, since they will use Arakawa's design and we all know how it's pretty impossible for it to go 2 cours (if this is Nichigo, of course) with the current available material from the manga, I wonder if the anime will use the materials not yet adapted to manga form...

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Natsuki Hyuga

I wonder if the anime will use the materials not yet adapted to manga form...

They'll pretty much have to if they want to get anywhere at all. I skimmed the two volumes that are out, and the story has just barely begun! The main cast is not even together yet... If they get two cours and start hacking at the story then perhaps they can get to the logical conclusion, but even that would only work with a really good writer. If this gets one cour it's doomed, it'll be like Tytania except worse because Arslan is so much longer.

(Also, have I mentioned that I really don't like how cartoony the manga looks? Please anime charadesign person, please try to do something about that, too.)

[Maxulous]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

I hope whoever does the art adaptation will give the character and world designs more individuality than they have in the manga. (Also, please get rid of Daryun's ponytail.) Also, I really really really hope they won't follow the manga's humor and its handling of emotional scenes. Also, have I mentioned that I really don't like how cartoony the manga looks? Because I do. Please anime charadesign person, please try to do something about that, too.

If it's BONES you're outta luck.

I'd love to see Amano Yoshitaka all over a high end production again. Visually, he and Arakawa really just don't compare.

[Stark700]

I'm hoping it's Bones although chances are somewhat likely. They did say they will be adapting 3 series (from manga) and one original work in a panel.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-fea...el-at-animagic
Blood Battle Front is one of them and this could be the second. No doubt this show will likely debut sometimes next year in 2015 too.

[Gundamx]

never know it have novel version.....
But I like the manga version a lot

for people who want to read the mange version
http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics/ma...arslan/volumes

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Maxulous

If it's BONES you're outta luck.

Haha, this is probably the first time ever that I hope it's not going to be Bones. (But if it is Bones hopefully they'll do whatever they did with the first FMA anime, character designs aside. I didn't care for the manga or for the second anime, but I quite liked the first anime.)

Originally Posted by Maxulous

I'd love to see Amano Yoshitaka all over a high end production again. Visually, he and Arakawa really just don't compare.

Pretty much, yeah. Although it's not just Amano, there's also Kamimura Sachiko who did the chara designs for the old anime - they probably look dated for most people, but still they were gorgeous, especially in the first episode where they were more Amano-ish. I wish we could get an update on those instead of Arakawa. (The later novel illustrations are pretty decent, too.)

Originally Posted by Gundamx

never know it have novel version.....

It doesn't have a "novel version", it's a novel and the manga is an adaptation of that novel. There's also an anime and another manga series.

[musouka]

If it's one cour, there's practically no point, if it's based off of Arakawa's. What'll that give us, the first two or three novels depending on how they pace? (Surely they wouldn't just do the one she's covered and the very beginning of the second one?) The only good that would come of it is adapting the first part of the second novel that was skipped over by the movies...

Honestly, I can't imagine that they won't animate more that what Arakawa has covered.

[kuromitsu]

Which begs the question, though, just how far are they planning to go? One cour only would be absolutely pointless, no matter what they're basing the anime's story on... It would be like adapting LoGH in one cour, and stopping at "Farewell, faraway days"...

[Guardian Enzo]

If it does get the Nichigo slot, two cours would seem to be the most common historical precedent.

[musouka]

The biggest problem, for me, basing it on Arakawa is what I told you in PM, kuromitsu. If they're just doing a straightforward adaptation with Arakawa's designs, that's one thing, but it would just be weird to use some of the things she's changed and then try to force them to fit the novel set up later on. I guess they could always ask her what she had planned for that character.

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by musouka

The biggest problem, for me, basing it on Arakawa is what I told you in PM, kuromitsu. If they're just doing a straightforward adaptation with Arakawa's designs, that's one thing, but it would just be weird to use some of the things she's changed and then try to force them to fit the novel set up later on. I guess they could always ask her what she had planned for that character.

I think that with a good writer they can potentially navigate around the changes, although tbh I'm not sure it would be worth it. I wish they just ignored that entire plotline... (I really don't get what Arakawa is trying to do with that character, though. It seems to go completely against what the novel was doing with her.)

[Guardian Enzo]

Tanaka and Arakawa did a joint interview in which he made it abundantly clear he's fine with the direction she's taking the story and characters. He equated any changes with taking a journey from Tokyo to Osaka - there are different ways one can get there, depending on logistical concerns like how much time you have.

[musouka]

Which isn't actually the problem under discussion. Sure there are a lot of different ways to Osaka from Tokyo, but you still need to know the route, otherwise you'll just end up lost. Some of the changes Arakawa made will have a pretty big ripple effect on later events, and not just in regards to the character kuromitsu and I are mentioning obliquely.

I'm someone that doesn't mind changes when it comes to one medium to another, so I'm mostly looking forward to seeing how the anime reinterprets a series that's already been animated once. Having said that, I still want the adaptation to be good and faithful in spirit to the original novels, if not in letter. Sometimes Arakawa accomplishes that in her manga and sometimes she doesn't, so it makes sense to discuss how the anime might play out.

[Guardian Enzo]

Which is all fine. I'm merely pointing out that the original author (what would he know, anyway?) doesn't seem worried about any ripple effect.

[kuromitsu]

Do you seriously think that if he was worried he would choose to air his worries in a promotional joint interview? (Not to mention he probably either doesn't even remember or is too busy bathing in money to care. XD) I mean if you asked Kishi Yuusuke in a promo joint interview about what he thinks about the Shinsekai yori manga he'd probably say something along the same lines.

Anyway, I can only echo what musouka said. Different ways to Osaka from Tokyo is one thing, but it's very very easy to take detours until you stop, look around, and go "er, you know what, I wanted to go to Sendai anyway".

I'm not a purist either, I generally don't mind changes as long as they preserve the spirit of the source material (and don't screw with the characterization). The old anime also had its share of changes, after all. But for me the Arakawa manga already has a handicap because Arakawa's art and way of storytelling simply don't click with me (and tbh I think it doesn't really click with the novels either, I really wonder why they chose her, of all mangaka, to do this adaptation... but I digress). But I also have worries unrelated to Arakawa's person - adapting something that's already an adaptation is getting farther and farther away of the original, with a bunch of changes that will inevitably need to be dealt with by someone who is neither the writer of the adaptation, nor the writer of the original.

[Guardian Enzo]

Yeah, that was about the reaction I expected. Once opinion is hardened that much, there's not a whole lot that's going to shift it.

[musouka]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Which is all fine. I'm merely pointing out that the original author (what would he know, anyway?) doesn't seem worried about any ripple effect.

Well, yeah, he's not worried about it for the manga, because (hopefully) Arakawa will deal with the changes she's made when it comes to the later events they would effect. However, a writer for the anime that only has the initial changes and then the novel scenarios which no longer smoothly fit in the narrative is pretty worrisome depending on who they are and how good they are at adaptations.

There's nothing wrong with being a fan of Arakawa, but it doesn't mean she was the right person to do an adaptation of this particular work or that it isn't a bit shortsighted to base an anime purely off her material when so little of it is actually out. (On the other hand, I'd laugh if this is just a movie or OAV or something...)

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Yeah, that was about the reaction I expected. Once opinion is hardened that much, there's not a whole lot that's going to shift it.

I'm sorry for not being an Arakawa fan, I guess...? I'm not saying that she sucks and this anime is going to suck, I'm saying I have worries about it, that's all.

Originally Posted by musouka

(On the other hand, I'd laugh if this is just a movie or OAV or something...)

I'm no sure if they can even do an OVA based on the manga so far, though (let alone a movie). :S I would say the closest story here that could be worth being adapted as a standalone OVA is probably the Shindran war of succssion, but that's still way, waaay too far away...

[Cloudedmind]

Hmm, I'd been meaning to check out the novels and the manga. Nice to know it's getting an anime, or rather another anime adaptation.