Vivid Strike! - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[Aetherdraw]

Holy crap that ending... those arm-cracking sounds were horrifying.... Kids bloodied and beaten up on school grounds. And people still dismissing this as a cutesy Magical girl spinoff? 7-arcs showing how brutal their shows can be. As expected from those that brought us A's

[TYxTxYT]

That was... brutal.

Originally Posted by Aetherdraw

Holy crap that ending... those arm-cracking sounds were horrifying.... Kids bloodied and beaten up on school grounds. And people still dismissing this as a cutesy Magical girl spinoff? 7-arcs showing how brutal their shows can be. As expected from those that brought us A's

What are you talking about, loli going rampage is cute.

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[B214]

Wow Rinne just. Damn that was scary.

[Aetherdraw]

Originally Posted by TYxTxYT

That was... brutal.



What are you talking about, loli going rampage is cute.

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Hey, I never said I didn't like it. That was immensely satisfying. As if the animators and writers poured their anger at bullying with that scene.

[Stark700]

Tbh, those girls deserved that although Rinne just took it to an extreme level. I feel bad for Rinne though, she didn't deserve to be treated like that from the beginning by those mean girls.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by TYxTxYT

That was... brutal.

Originally Posted by B214

Wow Rinne just. Damn that was scary.

Originally Posted by Stark700

Tbh, those girls deserved that although Rinne just took it to an extreme level. I feel bad for Rinne though, she didn't deserve to be treated like that from the beginning by those mean girls.

I'll have to agree with all that. Beware of the quiet ones, for their rage knows no limits.

And to think it was all triggered by Rinne becoming popular after showing her real physical capabilities...

[DmonHiro]

Well... that was.... savage. And totally amazing. Wel done. The anger of a calm man is frightnening indeed.

[novalysis]

I am half way through the episode. Is there something wrong for me to, in a fit of dark thoughts to wish that at least one of those bullies be one of the Project Eclipse failed experimental subjects from the beginning of Nanoha Force?

[FlareKnight]

That was a satisfying ending. I can't feel a bit of sympathy for those scumbags. You push people to the brink and things like this will happen. It's just lucky that Rinne's rage stay focused. If she had interpreted the fact that everyone else did nothing as making them equally culpable....that could have ended badly.

The bullies themselves didn't just poke the bear, they kicked it. And they got mauled as a response. Utterly brutal and messy, but also made sense. There was simply no mercy left and their actions cost her dearly. Also kind of an expected end result. Rinne's personality was a bright one, but one with a darkness down in it. Willing to avoid conflict as best she could.

In the end was pushed so far that she almost just copied how Fuka would have responded to those bullies from the start. Maybe less arm breaking in Fuka's response, but fighting back was even how she responded to the bullies in episode 1.

[b33g]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

In the end was pushed so far that she almost just copied how Fuka would have responded to those bullies from the start. Maybe less arm breaking in Fuka's response, but fighting back was even how she responded to the bullies in episode 1.

Well, the Season started with Fuuka giving a bunch of bullies a beatdown, though likely nowhere as brutal.

[vic-vic]

Well, gangers beat Fuuka as well, though... And somehow, I lked those dudes more - at least they didn't pretend to be harmless as those girls in Rinne's school

P.S. Honestly, we can't even say wasn't that Fuuka who provoked the fight itself - she could just bump into those two dudes on the street and, considering her temper, start the verbal scrap

[FlameSparkZ]

After reviewing the episode again, I noticed a bit of suspension of disbelief is needed to accept the events that took place.

From what I understand, Rinne was bullied for at least two months, with harrasment, destruction of her things (shoes, uniform, books, etc...), as well as school property (the desk). Even if they didn't bully her every day, it's implied that it was being done on a regular basis.

...and yet nothing was done. Sure, her family noticed, but they shrugged it off after Rinne told them not to worry. What about the ruined books, shoes and uniform? Was Rinne buying them herself to avoid worrying her family? What about the teachers or other students?

Sure, we got anwers on Rinne's past, but now there's all these questions on how it was allowed to happen

I may be overanalyzing this though

[Random Wanderer]

All right. Like, I suspect, a fair number of people, I've been on the receiving end of bullying before, and the instant bullies get into the stage of stealing something from me because they thing it's funny, there are no longer any rules in play. It's one of my berserk buttons. The girl who stole Rinne's pin would have been on the ground bleeding were I in Rinne's place.

Also, I don't have to wait for "proof" when I already know who did it, if the brats keep causing trouble like that. Somebody would have gotten broken, and my concern about being labled the one who started it by school authorities would be nil.

...Very much like that bit at the end, honestly. People learned to stop trying that stuff with me after I threw someone into a locker, so I never had to escalate to murdering my classmates, but the principle still applied.

BTW, it's fairly clear that murdering them is exactly what she did. You don't get cranial damage and blood-splatter like that from non-fatal injuries. Especially that final stomp on the first girl's head. Which leaves me baffled as to how her parents still believe her "nice little girl" act, like we saw both last episode and this one. This isn't exactly something they could avoid finding out about. Bullying, yeah, if they're negligent they could miss it. Even a minor fight where Rinne teaches the bullies to leave her alone could slip past, depending on circumstances. But even if the show somehow decides to say that those three lived through having their skulls smashed in, this kind of brutality is not something a parent could avoid hearing about.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by vic-vic

Well, gangers beat Fuuka as well, though... And somehow, I lked those dudes more - at least they didn't pretend to be harmless as those girls in Rinne's school

P.S. Honestly, we can't even say wasn't that Fuuka who provoked the fight itself - she could just bump into those two dudes on the street and, considering her temper, start the verbal scrap

It says something when the gangsters who fired a weapon (some kind of gun) at a kid are the more likable guys in this situation...They really didn't seem as bad as those girls by comparison.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

All right. Like, I suspect, a fair number of people, I've been on the receiving end of bullying before, and the instant bullies get into the stage of stealing something from me because they thing it's funny, there are no longer any rules in play. It's one of my berserk buttons. The girl who stole Rinne's pin would have been on the ground bleeding were I in Rinne's place.

Also, I don't have to wait for "proof" when I already know who did it, if the brats keep causing trouble like that. Somebody would have gotten broken, and my concern about being labled the one who started it by school authorities would be nil.

...Very much like that bit at the end, honestly. People learned to stop trying that stuff with me after I threw someone into a locker, so I never had to escalate to murdering my classmates, but the principle still applied.

BTW, it's fairly clear that murdering them is exactly what she did. You don't get cranial damage and blood-splatter like that from non-fatal injuries. Especially that final stomp on the first girl's head. Which leaves me baffled as to how her parents still believe her "nice little girl" act, like we saw both last episode and this one. This isn't exactly something they could avoid finding out about. Bullying, yeah, if they're negligent they could miss it. Even a minor fight where Rinne teaches the bullies to leave her alone could slip past, depending on circumstances. But even if the show somehow decides to say that those three lived through having their skulls smashed in, this kind of brutality is not something a parent could avoid hearing about.

To be fair...there is zero chance she killed anyone. No matter how Midchilda operates they aren't going to let someone walk into their school and murder 3 people without ending up in a prison. Traumatized? Sure. Broken arm for the one girl? Yeah. Likely concussions for all three? Very likely. Dead? Not a chance. The head can bleed pretty darn well without it being a fatal injury.

It's not like Rinne punched clean through their bodies or ripped off their heads. She smashed them hard against the lockers. Enough to dent the metal and knock them out, but it wouldn't necessarily kill them. Plus this is a world with freaking magic. I'm sure they can handle a bit of physical trauma.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

To be fair...there is zero chance she killed anyone. No matter how Midchilda operates they aren't going to let someone walk into their school and murder 3 people without ending up in a prison. Traumatized? Sure. Broken arm for the one girl? Yeah. Likely concussions for all three? Very likely. Dead? Not a chance. The head can bleed pretty darn well without it being a fatal injury.

Actually, even if Rinne had killed those three girls, they might let Rinne go without prison because of her age. With a limiter, and a commitment to do time in service in the TSAB, especially considering her power....

Crap. That might explain why she isn't participating after the Winter Tournament.

[vic-vic]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

It says something when the gangsters who fired a weapon (some kind of gun) at a kid are the more likable guys in this situation...They really didn't seem as bad as those girls by comparison.

Actually, he fired a taser gun (if we look carefully after the shot we would see a dart with attached wire), so even the actuall harm should be pretty minimal. Again, I really like those dudes more than "cute school girls".

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by novalysis

Crap. That might explain why she isn't participating after the Winter Tournament.

Nope, the way she said it in ep3 sounds more like she's moving on from under-15 to under-19 and she wants to settles these scores before that.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by novalysis

Actually, even if Rinne had killed those three girls, they might let Rinne go without prison because of her age. With a limiter, and a commitment to do time in service in the TSAB, especially considering her power....

Crap. That might explain why she isn't participating after the Winter Tournament.

Hard to say. After all Lutecia was basically put on a prison planet after StrikerS. And even Hayate and Fate never actually killed anyone. There was injuries and major incidents, but they nor the knights never seemed to cross that line with people. And even they were drafted into the military as a response. I don't think Rinne would even have time to compete in the events she does if she had that level of punishment.

So yeah still don't think they died. With quick medical care (especially magical healing) they should be fine.

What I am curious about is the aftermath which hopefully we'll find out. I'm pretty sure Fuka would have questions about what happened after that and they should be able to fill in the gaps.

In terms of her last tournament, you never know. That might be the case. Or it might simply be logical. If she can beat Einhard, Vivio and Miura (or at the very least those first two) then she doesn't have a reason to keep competing in the Under 15s. She's not doing this to be a champion or anything. Beating the best in her age group will satisfy the reason she's doing all this. She can either stop fighting or move onto a different field.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Nope, the way she said it in ep3 sounds more like she's moving on from under-15 to under-19 and she wants to settles these scores before that.

That might be the case. If she manages to defeat the main cast in the Winter Tournament, she'll either stop fighting because she proved she's the strongest or move on to Under-19 and defeat those fighters...regardless, Rinne intends to show she's stronger than anyone else, so no one will mess with her ever again.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

So yeah still don't think they died. With quick medical care (especially magical healing) they should be fine.

If not, then they're in a coma...I mean, has anyone ever been killed by a main character in the series?
In StrikerS, the only dead I can remember are Regius, Due who killed him and Zest who killed Due...who then died after being slashed by Signum, but that was his intention as he was already living on borrowed time.