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MeisterBabylon · 2012-07-03, 08:18

Indeed, even after you explained it, its beyond our understanding - by being too retarded.

Kyero Fox · 2012-07-03, 08:18

^ that's pretty much what I heard haha.

MeisterBabylon · 2012-07-03, 09:42

That said, I doubt not explaining what the Reapers were up to, even in the original cut, would've quelled fan bile.

DonQuigleone · 2012-07-03, 09:45

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Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

That said, I doubt not explaining what the Reapers were up to, even in the original cut, would've quelled fan bile.

Depends on the implementation.

Frankly, the star child pretty much makes all endings suck (unless he's a hallucination...)

FlareKnight · 2012-07-03, 11:30

There are just too many reasons the ending sucked. It takes quite a lot of talent to mess up in that grand manner.

Of course making their motivations stupid hurt. Forcing you to take three options presented to you from your enemy hurt. Making the war assets next to worthless, final battle's potential completely wasted, making some choices not matter at all going into this game (Rachni), all of it hurt the ending and leading up to it. The bad ending also just made it tough to ignore the weaknesses of the game overall. The lack of dialogue choices was painfully obvious at times. You just sat there waiting for your chance to chime in, but the chatter just kept on going. Again the value of the choices was mixed, sometimes they really were important and sometimes you had the same situation no matter what you did in the earlier games.

In the end the fact that the Indoctrination Theory made more sense than the original endings is just sad. Have to agree that in order to avoid such a terrible conclusion in the first place more than just avoiding revealing the Reaper's motives would have been needed. Kill the blue child and just have a final battle that changes depending on the choices you made to this point. That would have been fine.

Keroko · 2012-07-03, 11:31

The starchild is only part of the problem. The real problem is that the ending channels the game into an ABC ending instead of letting the endings depend on what you did over the course of this game and the ones prior.

Key Board · 2012-07-04, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

That's the thing with the Control ending; it implies that the individual Reaper units don't have any independence whatsoever. There is no consensus governance; even the Reapers themselves are "under direct control" of the Star Child.

and clearly this is something that shouldn't happen considering "We are sovereign. Each of us is an entire nation" when Shepard asked them who their leader was in ME1

Keroko · 2012-07-05, 02:02

To be fair, sovereign was just bullshitting during the entire conversation. I mean, he also claimed that the reapers "have no beginning" which, this being a sci-fi setting, we had labeled bullshit even before ME2's "how to build a reaper" hammering it in.

Kyral · 2012-07-05, 07:48

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Originally Posted by Keroko

To be fair, sovereign was just bullshitting during the entire conversation. I mean, he also claimed that the reapers "have no beginning" which, this being a sci-fi setting, we had labeled bullshit even before ME2's "how to build a reaper" hammering it in.

But it was epic bullshit! Gawd I miss him, he had the best voice in the whole frenchise!

LoweGear · 2012-07-05, 13:10

This is now my Ending Headcanon

GARRUS LAGANN FTW

Kyero Fox · 2012-07-05, 13:14

Hahaha i was like "awesome!" Then quickly head butted my phone when i saw femshep.

Femshep just looks funny like that. The art style is too wack for either shep, but femshep looks better in the style... I get the feeling male shep would look a lot like the "spiral king"

synaesthetic · 2012-07-05, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Hahaha i was like "awesome!" Then quickly head butted my phone when i saw femshep.

Femshep just looks funny like that. Those are manly glasses anyways :P

Could you possibly be a little less misogynistic and immature? WE GET IT. We know you don't like femshep. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, SO SHE'S EVERYWHERE.

Don't bitch every time you see it; I don't complain loudly on message boards every time I look at ME official artwork and see the generic male Shepard!

Kyero Fox · 2012-07-05, 16:10

Sorry, I meant her look, not HER.

I edited my post a bit. the edit i did after posting didn't go through because of my dumb phone.

dat nose o.o its smiling too.

npal · 2012-07-05, 17:17

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Could you possibly be a little less misogynistic and immature? WE GET IT. We know you don't like femshep. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, SO SHE'S EVERYWHERE.

Don't bitch every time you see it; I don't complain loudly on message boards every time I look at ME official artwork and see the generic male Shepard!

Actually I don't like FemShep either :P And I'm pretty content with MaleShep's default face. I actually can't comprehend how other people actually go and create their own face. Most of the custom MaleShep's I've seen are downright horrible :P

Keroko · 2012-07-05, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Kyral

But it was epic bullshit! Gawd I miss him, he had the best voice in the whole frenchise!

Heck yes, blew even Harbinger right out of the water. His voice was the most "alien" of all the reapers.

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

This is now my Ending Headcanon

GARRUS LAGANN FTW

"No happy ending? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?"

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Originally Posted by npal

Actually I don't like FemShep either :P And I'm pretty content with MaleShep's default face. I actually can't comprehend how other people actually go and create their own face. Most of the custom MaleShep's I've seen are downright horrible :P

Hmm, it depends on the person, really. For me, it added that touch of self to it. This wasn't just anyone's Shepard, this was my Shepard. It made the Shepard I played unique, to the point where I spend a full day fixing ME3's buggy import feature. I just couldn't play another Shepard. I was so used to the face I had crafted myself and played for years.

Kyero Fox · 2012-07-05, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Keroko

"No happy ending? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?"

.

Haha, Nice one! Gonna have to cookie you for that one.

Commander fuckin Shepard! Yes my middle name is fuckin!

KBTKaiser · 2012-07-05, 21:02

Mordin's headpeice, Quarian Shoulder Guards, Turian chest, presumably Krogan Feet?

MeisterBabylon · 2012-07-06, 00:07

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Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Mordin's headpeice, Quarian Shoulder Guards, Turian chest, presumably Krogan Feet?

The GATTAI of MANLY COMPANIONS!

GARRUS LAGANN!!!

or maybe

SAME SEX GATTAI!

Go!

NORMANDIOOON!!!

Kyero Fox · 2012-07-06, 00:17

Same Sex Gattai? What on earth? ._.

Destined_Fate · 2012-07-06, 02:33

Man... Poor Kaiden isn't even represented there.

I mean, sure I killed him for Ashley even on my Femshep but still.

2012-07-03, 08:18	Link #3361
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	Indeed, even after you explained it, its beyond our understanding - by being too retarded. __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2012-07-03, 08:18	Link #3362
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	^ that's pretty much what I heard haha. __________________

2012-07-03, 09:42	Link #3363
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	That said, I doubt not explaining what the Reapers were up to, even in the original cut, would've quelled fan bile. __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2012-07-03, 11:30	Link #3365
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	There are just too many reasons the ending sucked. It takes quite a lot of talent to mess up in that grand manner. Of course making their motivations stupid hurt. Forcing you to take three options presented to you from your enemy hurt. Making the war assets next to worthless, final battle's potential completely wasted, making some choices not matter at all going into this game (Rachni), all of it hurt the ending and leading up to it. The bad ending also just made it tough to ignore the weaknesses of the game overall. The lack of dialogue choices was painfully obvious at times. You just sat there waiting for your chance to chime in, but the chatter just kept on going. Again the value of the choices was mixed, sometimes they really were important and sometimes you had the same situation no matter what you did in the earlier games. In the end the fact that the Indoctrination Theory made more sense than the original endings is just sad. Have to agree that in order to avoid such a terrible conclusion in the first place more than just avoiding revealing the Reaper's motives would have been needed. Kill the blue child and just have a final battle that changes depending on the choices you made to this point. That would have been fine. __________________ Anime-Evo

2012-07-05, 13:10	Link #3370
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	This is now my Ending Headcanon GARRUS LAGANN FTW __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2012-07-03, 11:31	Link #3366
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The starchild is only part of the problem. The real problem is that the ending channels the game into an ABC ending instead of letting the endings depend on what you did over the course of this game and the ones prior.

2012-07-05, 02:02	Link #3368
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	To be fair, sovereign was just bullshitting during the entire conversation. I mean, he also claimed that the reapers "have no beginning" which, this being a sci-fi setting, we had labeled bullshit even before ME2's "how to build a reaper" hammering it in.

2012-07-05, 13:14	Link #3371
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Hahaha i was like "awesome!" Then quickly head butted my phone when i saw femshep. Femshep just looks funny like that. The art style is too wack for either shep, but femshep looks better in the style... I get the feeling male shep would look a lot like the "spiral king" __________________ Last edited by Kyero Fox; 2012-07-05 at 16:06.

2012-07-05, 16:10	Link #3373
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Sorry, I meant her look, not HER. I edited my post a bit. the edit i did after posting didn't go through because of my dumb phone. dat nose o.o its smiling too. __________________

2012-07-05, 21:02	Link #3377
KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 38	Mordin's headpeice, Quarian Shoulder Guards, Turian chest, presumably Krogan Feet?

2012-07-06, 00:17	Link #3379
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Same Sex Gattai? What on earth? ._. __________________

2012-07-06, 02:33	Link #3380
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Man... Poor Kaiden isn't even represented there. I mean, sure I killed him for Ashley even on my Femshep but still.