2012-10-15, 15:17 | Link #962 | |
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The freedom of speech, as it applies to America, is in the First Amendment of the Constitution. The First Amendment is part of a document that is referred to as the Bill of Rights. Jefferson does not refer to "given" rights. He refers to "natural" rights. That you think of rights as "given" suggests a strong disconnect between your conception of rights and Jefferson's conception of rights. Please stop mangling these concepts through misattributions and misquotes.
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2012-10-15, 15:17 | Link #963 | |
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So let's say... for the sake of argument... the victim suddenly took the knife and held Akane hostage... then what? Please don't say that this is not a possibility. Victim has a PP of over 160.
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2012-10-15, 15:24 | Link #964 |
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There is one thing I should mention:
Akane did not merely talk the victim out of her criminal intent. She took concrete steps to demonstrate that she has the welfare of the victim in mind. Consider this: the rapist showed the victim her psycho pass index: It was in the latent criminal stage. He then asserted that if the police were to lay their hands on her, she would be done. The victim's reaction suggests apparent belief. Thus, when the police first approached her, she may very well see them as enemies and refuse to believe anything they say. When she was holding the lighter, however, Akane had shot another policeman who was about to shoot the victim. At this point, Akane had demonstrated with action that she might not want to harm the victim. At this point, the victim has more concrete proof that Akane could be her "friend," so to speak. Thus, the fact that Akane managed to talk the victim down does not necessarily prove that Masaoka was wrong to want to use the tranquilizer, nor that the dominator's assessment was incorrect. Think of it as a natural example of the good cop/bad cop routine.
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2012-10-15, 15:32 | Link #965 | ||
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Thirdly, if a high PP is an excuse to shoot people that is totally reasonable at any time, then they should be shooting the enforcers instead of involving them in police operations. Why aren't you worried about Masaoka or Kogami reaching for that knife? |
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2012-10-15, 15:40 | Link #966 | ||
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2012-10-15, 15:48 | Link #967 | |||
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2012-10-15, 15:49 | Link #968 | |||
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Dominator's description of Masaoka: "Enforce at will." The police are perfectly free to shoot the enforcers. As to why they do not: the same reason real world police do not immediately arrest informants, and the prosecutors give light plea bargains to them.
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Look, we're going in circles. You see nothing wrong with tasering people who look at you funny, I do. Let's just agree to disagree. |
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2012-10-15, 15:57 | Link #970 | |
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The episode even implied that that poor woman's life was over after what she underwent. That's messed up.
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2012-10-15, 16:02 | Link #971 |
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@Kanon and Anh_Minh
120 PP means highly compulsive and aggressive. The victim has 160. They are supposed to enforce people over 100 because they are highly compulsive and aggressive. And getting taken as hostage by an aggressive individual is a small risk? Also if you don't wish to argue then sure. We can just agree to disagree.
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2012-10-15, 16:10 | Link #972 |
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Highly compulsive and aggressive? Masaoka is over 120 and he's a pretty chill dude. I think the numbers can be interpreted in different ways. 120 just means unstable. In the victim's case, she was not aggressive, she was terrified.
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2012-10-15, 16:11 | Link #973 | ||
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I'd think he has no problem with people with low PP readings looking at him funny
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2012-10-15, 16:17 | Link #974 |
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I hope we'll learn more about the psychopass system soon because I have a hard time understanding how it can quantify a person's state of mind so precisely. Can it make the difference between strong emotions like fear and hatred? I'd also like to know how it works on true psychopaths whose emotions are shallow. Are they easier or harder to detect?
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2012-10-15, 16:18 | Link #975 | |
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If you read or watch survival stories... terrified and unstable individuals are the one's who start stupid crap that screws the group.
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2012-10-15, 16:20 | Link #976 | |
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The hardest part will be to find Sociopaths...
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2012-10-15, 16:35 | Link #977 | |
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Whether this is morally correct is a completely different matter. There is an actual cop available to shoot them at any time they deem necessary. |
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2012-10-15, 16:51 | Link #979 | ||
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2012-10-15, 16:54 | Link #980 | |
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That's not what the gun says. Also what do you mean she turned her back on them? She actually DID shoot. |
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