2014-12-12, 11:42 | Link #1445 | |
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Enjoyable show overall despite a very rushed ending.
I guess knowing that it would end on ep10 and expecting a rushed ending kinda softened the blow. Interested to see how the LN ends. Quote:
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2014-12-12, 18:57 | Link #1447 |
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I don't know about that. After all, outside the special Iron Blood thing, there were equivalents on the Gilette team. Issue is Toru was less than proactive about things. There's lots of things he could to that are outside outright war.
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2014-12-12, 22:51 | Link #1448 | |
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That being said,I supposed it could've happened an episode earlier(or if the show had at least another ep) so his transformation wouldn't be so rushed. |
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2014-12-12, 23:56 | Link #1449 |
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All I could think about is '' Wait .. what just happened '' throughout the episode. Everything happened WAY too fast, he just got resurrected and KO'ed already? Niva helped Chaika without any explanation other than '' I have personality '' and never turned back to the human form .. Chaika used her memories, no epilogue as to what extent the memory loss was .. and so on.
I didn't even know this was going to be the last episode so I was even more confused. A bad and confusing ending for sure .. It needed at LEAST one more episode.
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2014-12-13, 10:55 | Link #1455 |
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Wonderland.
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Moral of the story.
Giving your weapon a cute appearance is fine, but never give them a freaking personality you damn fool.
Arthur Gaz, you were a man of fine taste. But in the end, your love for cute little girls killed you.
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2014-12-13, 14:10 | Link #1456 |
Me, An Intellectual
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 33
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All I have to say is that after a promising start, the second season ended up being one massive disappointment. It spent the majority of the time meandering through the same ground as the last season and then capped it off with a rushed and unsatisfying conclusion.
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2014-12-14, 00:07 | Link #1457 |
Snobby Gentleman
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
Age: 43
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The Bells of Contention
Chaika is concluded, so I can cover the last episodes in a more free fashion, as well as I won't be repeating opinions that read somewhere else.
To be honest, with so many things to settle in a span of around three episodes the S2 eighth episode felt shabby to me in terms of pacing, execution, and developments. Nothing the characters did became anything like breakthrough or outstanding; the course of events felt like a monotony. Besides, the Black Chaika and her sisters were just passive spectators to the death matches unfolded inside the arena; flies onto the wall, figuratively speaking. Although there were a few WTF moments that elicit a quick reaction from me like: 1. The many Chaikas after Frederica and Akari getting sliced, and yet their body parts continue to move. Ew 2. With that little and frail body, and yet Vivi was able to swing that BF sword, and sliced Gillete's right hand, literally, in order to snap him out of his senses, though I believe it was mostly in self-defense. |
2014-12-14, 07:57 | Link #1458 |
Master of Killing Time
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Makinohara Service Area
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I don't know how to feel about Niva defecting to chaika's side to finish off Gaz, the reason that "I have personality" doesn't quite explain what happened. She even didn't revert back to human form!
Gaz even just stood there knowing how powerful Niva was! can't he even bring down the shutter of the castle to protect himself or something? So 2.5 chaikas survived, Gilette got the 0.5, and Tohru got the 2. Not a bad deal, he even got Akari and Frederica. Lastly, at least we knew white chaika kinda became normal after that, saying arigato instead of kansha. Maybe i was just reading into that too much. Not such a bad end all in all. |
2014-12-14, 11:48 | Link #1459 |
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With only ten eps, season two was pretty rushed, and the finale felt no different from the other quests since there was too little rising action in the story. The last episode especially felt strange. Toru becomes a dragoon cavalier, and all he manages to do is kill Shin, who was introduced late and underdeveloped, and would have been killed by Gaz if Gaz hadn't arbitrarily decided to open the shutters and lower the shields. And Niva switches sides so arbitrarily and conveniently, declaring that she "had personality," and then she ends up locked up forever in her gundo form. If Chaika were an RPG, the finale was basically all GM fiat: "Sheesh, Toru's player finally switched classes, and since it's the end of the campaign he won't get to level up in it. Wait, the party split up, right before the final boss fight?! Fine, Akari gets to fight the enemy Chaika's, even though that was supposed to be entirely handled by the NPCs. ... Crap, of course Toru is failing at soloing Gaz, I'd better have him open up the fortress so Chaika can provide supporting fire. Goddammit, Chaika's idiot player wasted her ammo shooting the castle. I want a happy ending, so I'll have Niva go to her. And then everybody resolved their personal problems concerning their place in the world and lived happily ever after, all problems in the world are solved, yada yada, good job everybody. What are we playing next?"
Still, even if the second season was inadequate, and the presentation as a whole lacked dramatic and emotional flare, IMO enough good will carried over from the first season and Chaika was her typical cute self so that I can't rage on this. The second season probably deserves no higher than a 6/10, but both seasons combined would get an 8/10 from me.
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2014-12-14, 12:42 | Link #1460 |
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Age: 47
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I agree that the ending was rushed as hell. Way too many conveniences and facepalm-worthy moments. Up until episode 9, the show was going quite strong, but the fact that it only had ten episodes ruined any hope of a proper ending.
Niva's defection wasn't surprising in the very least, though it was forced, anyway. "Oh yeah, I forgot I suddenly have personality, so I'll just fly over to my former master and have her kill you." And Gaz just stood there, as if he knew this was coming all along, which makes his entire evil scheme kinda pointless, if you ask me. Also, did he really have to lower his fortress' defenses and enable Niva to defect to Chaika? Why did he even want to kill her, anyway, when she was powerless to stop him all that time? In fact, why didn't he kill all the Chaikas once their purpose had been fulfilled? And then we have Toru contracting with Frederica. Also, not surprising, as she had been nagging him about it for a long time and it was clear that he couldn't keep on staying as a Saboteur. However, did he really have to be so weak? If Shin hadn't been taking his sweet little time in the duel, he could've defeated his brother with relative ease. Heck, you'd think Frederica herself would become more powerful, too, but she just got shoved aside and didn't do anything. Then there's the aftermath. Apparently, White Chaika used up all her memories as fuel for Niva to kill Gaz. First of all, she made a promise to Toru to not do that, yet she showed no qualms in doing so right there and then, as if that vow didn't mean anything. At the very least, they could have shown her reminiscing about it briefly, before making that decision. And exactly which memories did she lose? Everything, or just the ones that Gaz gave her? And does she still remember her feelings for Toru? While it seemed like she does, it would have been nice to see some closure on that, too. 7/10 for this season, 8/10 for the series as a whole.
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