Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[Forsaken_Infinity]

Originally Posted by Stiletto

Bug, glitches, and overheating! Oh yay!

There are bugs and glitches in any game though. What matters is if the game is worth the rage caused by those.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Dist

I haven't been following the info on Skyrim too much par the pictures and some gameplay.. How's the story in this? When I was looking to buy the Skyrim the shop preview said something about slaying the dragons as you're the only one capable of doing this..

So what, we have this very old and used cliche setting where you're saving the world cause no one else can? How is this going to go well if you make an evil character that kills everything in his path? Why would I want to save the world if I wanted to kill everyone?

How are you suppose to kill everything in your path if you don't kill dragons too? And how are you suppose to kill everyone if the Dragons kill them first?

Seriously. What does your evil character WANT? Because if you think just because you are evil that it is okay to be invaded by Dragons, I do question your character's sanity. Evil isn't suppose to be stupid.

Dragon Invasion = bad for you. That's all there is to it. There isn't some silly alignment rubbish where the dragons are going to be your best friends just because you are evil.

[Dist]

I'll kill the dragons, but not because I want to save the world, but because I don't want to be killed by them ;<. But I don't have to do the main quest, whatever it is, to '' save the world ''.

Well I don't know really if the base setting is saving the world but .. we'll see. Just one week left.

Originally Posted by Forsaken_Infinity

There are bugs and glitches in any game though. What matters is if the game is worth the rage caused by those.

Bethesda however, is known for launching games that are bugged to no end. And why is this? Because why bother up finishing a game when the community will fix and improve it for you with the modding tools. Really I though I wish Bethesda would change their attitude, or if it's not like I assume it is, then actually finish what you started and don't just do half-assed job near the end.

Did any of you guys play New Vegas? Do any of you remember the bugs at the launch of the game? The stuttering/crashing issues? And who fixed those? Community.

[Kyral]

Originally Posted by Dist

So what, we have this very old and used cliche setting where you're saving the world cause no one else can? How is this going to go well if you make an evil character that kills everything in his path? Why would I want to save the world if I wanted to kill everyone?

Why an evil person wants to kill dragons? For power of course!

You are the Dovahkiin, killing dragons makes you absorb thier essences and powers you up. The more dragons you slay, the more powerful you become. Simple as that.
And after all the dragons are dead, you can go around and burn the world (or at least Skyrim).

[Tong]

You guys seriously need to play fallout 1/2, the shades of grey are everywhere.

Evil = killing everthing or not saving the world are wrong conceptions...

[Chaos2Frozen]

You people are trying really hard with this 'Evil' business

Remember all those one dimensional villains that we make fun of? Yeeaaahhhh.....

[Dist]

I don't want to be evil, I want to kill everyone. Be the ultimate villain .. or something. Destroy the world!

It's sad there's not many games where you play as a villain trying to destroy the world.. always the opposite

[Kyral]

"you guys", "you people"? Now I feel adressed here.

But I just want to mention that I don't plan on playing an evil character.

[Kyero Fox]

Bugs and glitches get fixed, just like people sould GET used to it!

[Vexx]

"evil" really works as selfishness at the expense of everyone else and what you think you can get away with.

"No one is looking. Hatchet that woman and take her necklace. No witnesses."

"Probably shouldn't take on the guards UNLESS I can nuke them all and then rape the villagers... then burn them all. No witnesses"

Calculated evil... oh and occasionally pet a puppy and give a kid a lollipop just because it amuses you.

[-KarumA-]

The main problem was that most bugs and glitches were caused by the game engine. I do agree they always did an half arsed job though if they did fix everything then they might as well post pone the release another half year. Most bugs and glitches are found when people decide to try everything, as in a more than the usual testers even bother on trying.
Besides community has always been a strong point for Elder Scrolls; I mean mods, mods and more mods everywhere. This is reason enough to buy the pc version and also not the steam version since last time it a lot of mods did not run because of the hur dur security Steam has. Don't know how it will play out this time, because you need Steam regardless to activate it (I've never used Steam before >: ). I did hear that about 50 crackers are already sitting on the pirate ship haling in the treasure as soon as it comes out.

As for story, yes it sounds cliche but I would play it because of the lore and because the world it is set into is quite interesting.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Aqua Knight

I will make a sneaky archer assassin too.
btw how will you name your character?

To fit the norse theme, Borknagar.

[-KarumA-]

As for names;
My crusader; Visna Aeron
My thief; Cocidius
My mage; Gwydion

[Tong]

And oh this reminds me of how "broken" Oblivion leveling system was.
Not to mention that stupid enemy level scalling, where you actually never felt strong because the battles lasted way too long.

[Aqua Knight]

My elf will be called Darnathiel I guess, as for other races I don't know.

[Kyero Fox]

Spoiler for Super Spoilers, dont click if you want to be surpised:

Werewolfs are confirmed 100% and becoming one is 100% confirmed.

[Chaos2Frozen]

More importantly, killing one is now 100% confirmed

...You don't suppose they'll make us equip a silver sword for it right ?

[Dist]

Originally Posted by -KarumA-

The main problem was that most bugs and glitches were caused by the game engine. I do agree they always did an half arsed job though if they did fix everything then they might as well post pone the release another half year. Most bugs and glitches are found when people decide to try everything, as in a more than the usual testers even bother on trying.
Besides community has always been a strong point for Elder Scrolls; I mean mods, mods and more mods everywhere. This is reason enough to buy the pc version and also not the steam version since last time it a lot of mods did not run because of the hur dur security Steam has. Don't know how it will play out this time, because you need Steam regardless to activate it (I've never used Steam before >: ). I did hear that about 50 crackers are already sitting on the pirate ship haling in the treasure as soon as it comes out.

As for story, yes it sounds cliche but I would play it because of the lore and because the world it is set into is quite interesting.

Wut? All Oblivion mods work on Steam version of the game. And yes, the modding community is strong, so what? It doesn't mean you can just release the game with tons of bugs and expect the community to fix it. Well, apparently you can since that's what they do. I am mainly annoyed about the game breaking bugs that will halt quests, crash the game or cause weird lagging problems, like with New Vegas. With just couple days more spent on the release of Vegas they could have addressed those problems before launching the game.. You see, there's hardly any point going to buy the game on the launch if you can't even play it. Oh look, it crashes every 20 minutes. Or oh look, it lags like hell even though it shouldn't... If we have something like this.. I will RAGE ..

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Dist

Wut? All Oblivion mods work on Steam version of the game. And yes, the modding community is strong, so what? It doesn't mean you can just release the game with tons of bugs and expect the community to fix it. Well, apparently you can since that's what they do. I am mainly annoyed about the game breaking bugs that will halt quests, crash the game or cause weird lagging problems, like with New Vegas. With just couple days more spent on the release of Vegas they could have addressed those problems before launching the game.. You see, there's hardly any point going to buy the game on the launch if you can't even play it. Oh look, it crashes every 20 minutes. Or oh look, it lags like hell even though it shouldn't... If we have something like this.. I will RAGE ..

Err... Bethesda didn't make New Vegas, just so you know.

Sub-contracted derivative works always have issues. Like how Bioshock 2 was considered inferior to 1 because of sub-contracting.

[-KarumA-]

Originally Posted by Dist

Wut? All Oblivion mods work on Steam version of the game. And yes, the modding community is strong, so what? It doesn't mean you can just release the game with tons of bugs and expect the community to fix it. Well, apparently you can since that's what they do. I am mainly annoyed about the game breaking bugs that will halt quests, crash the game or cause weird lagging problems, like with New Vegas. With just couple days more spent on the release of Vegas they could have addressed those problems before launching the game.. You see, there's hardly any point going to buy the game on the launch if you can't even play it. Oh look, it crashes every 20 minutes. Or oh look, it lags like hell even though it shouldn't... If we have something like this.. I will RAGE ..

No need to turn the vent on towards me, what part of I agree they did a half arsed job was too difficult to understand.
The last Bethesda that crashed every 3 hours or so for me was Fallout 3.
The thing I disliked about Vegas was that it was just so darned boring, I explored every aspect on the map and the amount of random quests were too small for me.
As a modeller junkie I just want to dig in and see what they did, not even starting on gameplay so far.