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Kouji · 2004-09-10, 23:23

Since One Piece will be here the 18th (9:30/10:30 central) on FOX, I thought that it would be really good to have a discussion on this 4Kids version of One Piece.

HopelessLover · 2004-09-10, 23:56

I would like to see the first episode on fox box but I don't think I'm going to wake up that early to watch it.

Kouji · 2004-09-11, 01:42

Well, guess it only fits me since I mostly wake up this early

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Jackl · 2004-09-11, 10:00

I can't watch. It hurts too much.

Oujirou · 2004-09-11, 10:07

If I'm not mistaken you got a good 7 days until you even see One Piece on FoxBox. I've been up since FoxBox started this morning and it's not there as well, it's not in any tv listing until the 18th.

Kouji · 2004-09-11, 11:11

How's this, we can have a pre discussion before the show airs on the 18th.

Oujirou · 2004-09-11, 11:16

haha yeah that works as long as someone doesn't start a F-Zero discussion

Antonik · 2004-09-11, 15:26

wonder if i can wake up that early.

Kouji · 2004-09-11, 16:15

Well for me, that wouldn't be a problem. Since I always wake up around that time anyways

ChibiGoku · 2004-09-12, 13:35

I thought I should mention something, and something VERY SURPRISING.
4Kids has released episode 1's title name, and guess what? It's identical to the japanese ver. of the name with the exception "I'm Luffy!" is removed. Could this mean something?

Link · 2004-09-12, 23:01

..... All I know is that Zoro is now Zolo, and Sanji has a lollipop...

Hmm... I wonder how they're gonna do the scenes in which Sanji asks for a light

ragweed · 2004-09-13, 07:40

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Zolo

aww...... crap. T~T

The thing that probably bugs me most of all is the foxbox itself. They don't have a weekday schedule so they only show an episode once and virtually never again. So if you miss one, you can get so totally lost you lose intrest all together. I would have felt better if WB had gotten it because hey, they played the poo out of popular shows like yugioh and pokemon. The more i think about it, the more frusterated i get. *goes to write an angry letter* As for waking up, I get up at 5:00 to go to school everyday anyway, so getting up at 8:30 is like sleeping in.

Lord Raiden · 2004-09-13, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Link

..... All I know is that Zoro is now Zolo, and Sanji has a lollipop...

Hmm... I wonder how they're gonna do the scenes in which Sanji asks for a light

Easy. They'll either cut them out, butcher them to death, or change the dialogue to be something really retarded. That's just 4kids style.

Kouji · 2004-09-13, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Link

..... All I know is that Zoro is now Zolo, and Sanji has a lollipop...

Hmm... I wonder how they're gonna do the scenes in which Sanji asks for a light

Well, here's how I see it.

4Kids
- amateur-ish
- dedicated to the "kiddies" and pre-teens

Bandai Entertainment, VIZ, FUNi etc...
- dub dedicated to older teens > adults (excluding SD Gundam Force)
- anime edited (only on tv)
- anime unedited (only on DVD and International channel)

U.S > Japan (difference in letters in how the names are pronounced)

Japan's R would be the U.S' L, see the difference? So it'd probably make sense.

Chamberlain · 2004-09-13, 18:18

The problem I have with Zolo is that he was pretty much named after Zorro not Zollo so it should definitely be pronounced as an r but whatever, I'm not really going to watch this since I teach a class at 9:45 but I will hope for uncut subtitled dvds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Link

...and Sanji has a lollipop...
Hmm... I wonder how they're gonna do the scenes in which Sanji asks for a light

Simple. "Hey can somebody heat up my lollipop?" Or something equally cheesy. I bet they'll really do something like this. I remember when Nappa and Vegeta blew up convienently empty skyscrapers and people ejected from helicopters. *sigh*

The only reason I'd ever hope that this butchered version of the show will get big is so that they'll release merchandise and I can buy it all non-import. That'd be nice.

Kouji · 2004-09-13, 22:17

Well, FUNi will mostly handle these uncut DVDs. Like they're doing with Shaman King.

ragweed · 2004-09-14, 07:41

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Japan's R would be the U.S' L, see the difference? So it'd probably make sense.

Only the 'L' is pronounced 'R' in Japanese (which is why Luffy is pronounced Rufi) because there is no L syllable in the language. They don't have any problem pronouncing Rs, so that usually stays the same. (ha ha, have you ever seen A Christmas Story?)

Kouji · 2004-09-14, 13:33

Yeah, I've been seeing that movie alot when I was in school.

hooliganj · 2004-09-14, 15:35

Zoro becomes Zolo for the same reason that they changed the title of Conan's show. Japanese compyright law is lot more relaxed than the American version. Over here, the name Zorro belongs to the heirs of the original author, and is licensed for use by the studios that make the movies. Those people might not like their character associated (however loosely) with a cartoon about pirates, so the name has to change to avoid a lawsuit.

I doubt that it would actually have been a problem for them to leave it as it was, but 4kids does have a good reason to fret about it.

Kouji · 2004-09-14, 19:46

heh, Knowing 4Kids. They'd be willing to change stuff dramatically from the original anime's form. And have us bash them for it. Like name change etc... I think they should get their cue of how Bandai or any other company edits their anime for tv viewing.

At least Bandai wouldn't come up with something corny as having Sanji chewing on a lollipop. Rather, they'd digitally edit the cigarette and have him biting on a twig. Which kinda looks more better. Though unfortunately, it was handed down to 4Kids.

2004-09-10, 23:23	Link #1
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	One Piece - FOX BOX (4Kids) episode discussion Since One Piece will be here the 18th (9:30/10:30 central) on FOX, I thought that it would be really good to have a discussion on this 4Kids version of One Piece. __________________ Last edited by Kouji; 2004-09-11 at 16:19.

2004-09-11, 01:42	Link #3
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	Well, guess it only fits me since I mostly wake up this early . __________________

2004-09-11, 11:11	Link #6
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	How's this, we can have a pre discussion before the show airs on the 18th. __________________

2004-09-11, 16:15	Link #9
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	Well for me, that wouldn't be a problem. Since I always wake up around that time anyways __________________

2004-09-13, 22:17	Link #16
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	Well, FUNi will mostly handle these uncut DVDs. Like they're doing with Shaman King. __________________

2004-09-10, 23:56	Link #2
HopelessLover Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	I would like to see the first episode on fox box but I don't think I'm going to wake up that early to watch it.

2004-09-11, 10:00	Link #4
Jackl Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I can't watch. It hurts too much.

2004-09-11, 10:07	Link #5
Oujirou イルージョン Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Age: 39	If I'm not mistaken you got a good 7 days until you even see One Piece on FoxBox. I've been up since FoxBox started this morning and it's not there as well, it's not in any tv listing until the 18th.

2004-09-11, 11:16	Link #7
Oujirou イルージョン Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Age: 39	haha yeah that works as long as someone doesn't start a F-Zero discussion

2004-09-11, 15:26	Link #8
Antonik Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 35	wonder if i can wake up that early.

2004-09-12, 13:35	Link #10
ChibiGoku FightingMagic Founder Join Date: May 2004	I thought I should mention something, and something VERY SURPRISING. 4Kids has released episode 1's title name, and guess what? It's identical to the japanese ver. of the name with the exception "I'm Luffy!" is removed. Could this mean something?

2004-09-12, 23:01	Link #11
Link ......... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In my House Age: 34	..... All I know is that Zoro is now Zolo, and Sanji has a lollipop... Hmm... I wonder how they're gonna do the scenes in which Sanji asks for a light

2004-09-14, 13:33	Link #18
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	Yeah, I've been seeing that movie alot when I was in school. __________________

2004-09-14, 15:35	Link #19
hooliganj Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004	Zoro becomes Zolo for the same reason that they changed the title of Conan's show. Japanese compyright law is lot more relaxed than the American version. Over here, the name Zorro belongs to the heirs of the original author, and is licensed for use by the studios that make the movies. Those people might not like their character associated (however loosely) with a cartoon about pirates, so the name has to change to avoid a lawsuit. I doubt that it would actually have been a problem for them to leave it as it was, but 4kids does have a good reason to fret about it.

2004-09-14, 19:46	Link #20
Kouji StrykerX Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Everett, WA Age: 42	heh, Knowing 4Kids. They'd be willing to change stuff dramatically from the original anime's form. And have us bash them for it. Like name change etc... I think they should get their cue of how Bandai or any other company edits their anime for tv viewing. At least Bandai wouldn't come up with something corny as having Sanji chewing on a lollipop. Rather, they'd digitally edit the cigarette and have him biting on a twig. Which kinda looks more better. Though unfortunately, it was handed down to 4Kids. __________________