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Final note to Darknemo2000 again - sorry but I AM a novel reader, and thus far it seems that I'm the only one in this thread that is actually WAY ahead of the English translations (which is what? not even at the end of volume 2? - whereas I'm on 5 already). Seriously anyone who's only following the English translation does not have enough info to make claims to how JC Staff "screwed it". So who are these people that support these claims that Taiga are not physically violent and how far have they read? And if you do, please bring up facts to support or rufte points like I do instead of making general blanket statements, thanks.
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2008-10-21, 08:07 | Link #122 |
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Actually I am on volume 5 as well. Will start volume 6 soon... Don't have much time because I am also ZnT novel translator on B-T.
No one said that Taiga is totally non-violent but her most agressiveness come from words rather than actions, and the instances you mentioned for mee seem lighter than what she did to Ryuuji in the anime (kicking in the guts, trying to stab his eyes etc). Besides we are talking about many instances from many scenes that do not come one after another in anime 3rd episode they just come pouring down on you, making her look more bitchy (more physically violent) than in novels or manga. PS. B-T novel translations are halfway through volume 4 at this moment (though volume 3 is still not fully finished but two translators working), so even english only readers are not that far behind you, you know. |
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2008-10-22, 03:29 | Link #127 | |
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I'm fine with calling Taiga ungrateful and bitchy, but sorry - physical violence is much worse than insults you can just ignore or walk away from. |
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2008-10-22, 03:46 | Link #128 |
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houkoholic when I said she wasn't abusive I had in mind physical abusiveness, you have to be a total idiot to think that Taiga is not abusive at all. But she is more a dog that barks rather than a dog that bites. So no, goals are still in the same place it is juts you running around without a ball and kicking the air.
Anyways, to your point B I had already said that it is an open question if a physical violence means more abusive than verbal one or not, but it is generally considered (you can read many posts here and in Zero No Tsukaima thread) to be a sign of being more bitchy. You don't agree good for you but it is a matter of taste and you have to admit that majority of opinions lean that way that physical violence is more abusive than verbal one. And yes they are not so far behind simply because the majority of volume is translated so even with missing gaps it is not that hard to be able to continue to volume 4 without much of problems. |
2008-10-22, 14:23 | Link #129 |
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I've just noticed, the author tells one exactly how is Taiga going to be in the little poem or verse or whatever at the beggining of the first novel.
Lol at me for not realising before So Taiga is like a high security (extreme security maybe) chest guarding a soft and sweet treasure? lol Tiger treasure! |
2008-10-22, 17:17 | Link #130 | |
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2008-10-22, 19:15 | Link #131 | |
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I get the feeling that rather than just applying to Taiga, it's also meant to apply to Ryuuji, the guy that no one approaches but is really a kind and helpful who just can't stand leaving someone in need. Not to mention, you know, everyone else. The whole "appearances/first impressions can be deceiving" motif seems to be the main theme of the series. |
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2008-10-26, 10:03 | Link #133 | |
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I agree here wholeheartedly. My wife was mentioning something to me one day. She said, of course she likes Ryuji, I asked her why is she so sure? She replyed simply: its a romantic comedy novel and shes currently single. Since there are only 5 characters and she doesnt like Kit or the girls.. whose left? They went thru the trouble of creating a love interest for Kit, but didnt for Ami (tho future novels might change this). At the end of the day, the rule seems to be, everyone likes somebody. Not much option for our dear characters at Toradora ;p |
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2008-10-27, 06:16 | Link #136 |
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Thanks! very rare to get any future novel spoilers for this series (please keep on coming! how bout Ryuji's current situation?). It is very refreshing to know that the novelist doesnt go outside of the theme of Toradora. My biggest fear has always been that, in order to stretch things out, novel 6+ would be about every character hooking up with one another and entering the stages of hating one another. Again I cite American teen dramas as an example (90210, Dawsons creek, and so on). Those shows do not appeal to me because the it always ends with characters that are fundamentically scarred (example would be character with Aids that dies) by the end of the show's run. With Toradora, I just want to enjoy teenage interactions and in a way, the wholesomeness of the situation. People on different forums always vaguely mention "dark" and "angst" when describing future novels without elaborating. So thanks! Last edited by msuwildog80; 2008-10-27 at 06:28. |
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