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Old 2012-05-12, 13:45   Link #101
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Reaper@ I agree with everyone else it's more like light effect. Also the only thing we see from ophis that other don't have are the elf like ears or pony like ears. but aside for this she seem to be a normal girl.About Ise we can't say if his ears are change for now. in the pic they are cover. So who know.
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:48   Link #102
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Ise himself says the body doesn't feel any different from his old one.

Whatever differences there are, it's not obvious and won't be revealed until the future.
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:53   Link #103
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I know this zzhk. I just say like this because they talk about differences between species and the only thing we see from ophis are her ears. But honeslty i belive that his ears are the same as always.
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Whatever differences there are, it's not obvious and won't be revealed until the future.
So i agree with this line. We just need to wait to find out this differences .
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:54   Link #104
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Ise himself says the body doesn't feel any different from his old one.

Whatever differences there are, it's not obvious and won't be revealed until the future.
this is what i dont get.

ise said his body feels the same b4 the pieces went back to him.
So the pieces techinically power you up, so if he felt the same without the pieces, then what about them returned at the end?
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:07   Link #105
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this is what i dont get.

ise said his body feels the same b4 the pieces went back to him.
So the pieces techinically power you up, so if he felt the same without the pieces, then what about them returned at the end?
Well, remember, Pawn pieces don't give any power up until promotion is activated.
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:13   Link #106
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Well, remember, Pawn pieces don't give any power up until promotion is activated.
thats my point..

anything + on top of base is always a bonus.
He was the same from start b4 his pawns.

So what is he after his promotion now?
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:19   Link #107
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thats my point..

anything + on top of base is always a bonus.
He was the same from start b4 his pawns.

So what is he after his promotion now?
Isn't all the same except for his new hidden potential?
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:21   Link #108
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NoirX@ That and that his body it's the same a GR. At least this is what Ophis say.(or something along this line).
Also that he is a dragon with human apparance other than that. Nothing change.
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:40   Link #109
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As for one of the pawn pieces,wouldn't ise be unable to use ascalon as it turned into a chess piece at the fight with siegfried so he couldn't use it until he got the pieces back(maybe).I get the feeling he can as it has synchronised with his SG but just want to make sure
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:41   Link #110
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thats my point..

anything + on top of base is always a bonus.
He was the same from start b4 his pawns.

So what is he after his promotion now?
exactly the same as before since whitout the pawn he can't use triania and ccq, now whit the pawn he can use them again so nothing have changed, same for normal promotion
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:48   Link #111
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As for one of the pawn pieces,wouldn't ise be unable to use ascalon as it turned into a chess piece at the fight with siegfried so he couldn't use it until he got the pieces back(maybe).I get the feeling he can as it has synchronised with his SG but just want to make sure
Ascalon turned back to a pawn piece after the fight, you could say it as temporary mutation i guess
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Old 2012-05-12, 14:55   Link #112
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Well, remember, Pawn pieces don't give any power up until promotion is activated.
I disagree, remember the fact that Ise had to have 7 of his 8 pawns sealed at the start of the series, it was said that if Ise had access to all 8 pieces at once his body wouldn't be able to handle the power. Also when the first one was unsealed (meaning he had access to 2 of the 8 pawns) in the Raiser match, he said he felt a surge of power, so that kinda leads me to believe that pawns do increase power, just not as drastically as other pieces (so say it boosts all stats by oh say, 25% per pawn piece) so Ise took in 8 pieces so his basic stats at first were increased by 25% then 50% during the Raiser fight, and when all 8 pieces were unlocked after his BB he became 200% stronger than a normal human (normal 100% + pawn boosted 200% = 300%) so in his normal stats he is 3x stronger than the avg human.
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Old 2012-05-12, 15:04   Link #113
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Or, it could simply mean that the pieces are sealed because Ise's body would not be able to handle the power from promoting multiple pieces.

I'd say the surge of power is more of a one-time effect from the unsealing process.

Of course, this is all open to interpretation at this point.
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Old 2012-05-12, 15:17   Link #114
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There must be some other hidden feature to the pawn piece than their is at the moment, I know it's not as valuable as the other pieces but it's still got its values,maybe Beelzebub will add some more traits to make things more interesting?
Also I wonder what that 'Game he mention in ise and rias's trial and also in volume 12 is,It's obviously bad to humans according to Siegfried or maybe just to the former hero faction
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There must be some other hidden feature to the pawn piece than their is at the moment, I know it's not as valuable as the other pieces but it's still got its values,maybe Beelzebub will add some more traits to make things more interesting?
Also I wonder what that 'Game he mention in ise and rias's trial and also in volume 12 is,It's obviously bad to humans according to Siegfried or maybe just to the former hero faction
Modding the evil piece more would be out of question since even the first modding which allows Ise to use Triaina is already illegal
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Old 2012-05-12, 17:15   Link #116
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Vol 11 Life 4 has been updated
I looks like n0m@n is trying to finish it fast. Its all ready up 50% done.

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NoirX@ That and that his body it's the same a GR. At least this is what Ophis say.(or something along this line).
Also that he is a dragon with human apparance other than that. Nothing change.
Ophis said his body was more or less like GR this because her power was also used in giving him that new body that maybe the reason for more or less comment.

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Ise's Senpais became oppai-gentlemen
Hey that topic there where female user right so why arent they being mention!
So the the female senpai are also oppai enthusiast.


And on Issei eyes being like Ophis eyes , it maybe the lighting but then again in most manga/anime/Ln charaters eyes change if they are different beings or possessed by another entity.
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Old 2012-05-12, 18:31   Link #118
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Zenovia + Erica from Campione are almost identical in size.
I just realized this.... And both are said to have the perfect body. :\

They have the same big 3, but the zenovia is taller by 1cm.
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:P

So wait... does that mean most japanese people think:

165cm tall 87/58/88 is like perfect dimensions?


ACK she's spelled Xenovia?
Have we been spelling her name wrong all this time?
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Old 2012-05-13, 09:01   Link #119
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v11 has been completed on BT.
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The amount of aura sent to me increases! I can do it! We can do this! Isn’t that right Ddraig!?

[…….Uhehehehe. Oppai sure is fun……]

….! Looks like Ddraig’s mental condition has finally……
I think this is the actual moment that Ddraig snaps, i was dying of laughter right here.
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Old 2012-05-13, 14:19   Link #120
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v11 has been completed on BT.


I think this is the actual moment that Ddraig snaps, i was dying of laughter right here.
dude ddraig snapped so many times in vol12, he's probably just cursing in his head telling Ise stop trolling and just die!.


Thats why in the end he gets ise by going silent and sleeping making ise cry thinking Ddraig is dead, only to have opfus sip tea going,
"ise... Ddraig is trolling you, he's passed out from using too much energy."

Its ddraig's revenge to make Ise cry for once, since Ddraig did so much crying this vol.
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