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Yeah we know Kagura wants Mikono, but what Kagura wants isn't the same as what Altair needs. Quote:
Also, if they could figure out what's wrong from studying the bodies, they would have done so with the millions of bodies and cloning wouldn't teach them anything new.
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2012-02-25, 18:46 | Link #1963 | |
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Even if I have to admit that they have pushed Amata/Mikono/Zessica far enough that a Kagura surprise would grate on me quite a bit. But I don't like Kagura as I didn't like Apollo so .. but the problem wouldn't be Kagura if they had given him a proper development, what I wouldn't like to see is a Kagura/Mikono ending only just because. Anyways I have to bear with it
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Chaos2Frozen: Jin (and by extension Izumo, I think) are hard to read. It's possible Alisia had some mind-blowing elemental abilities, and relative to her Zessica and Mikono are such small potatoes it's hard to take them seriously as eve candidates. It's also possible Jin's just a "2D" (really: "hologram figurine", I think)-preferring fellow, such that no "real" woman would appeal to him as much as his Alisia holofigs. In which case, good luck, Altair, you're *really* going to need it.
Side note: if Jin is the one-eyed transfer student, you think he and Amata will bond by watching Skies of Aquarion (or whatever that in-show movie is called)? It's Neo-Deava movie night, Amata gets so excited he has someone else who's that big of a fan he starts flying when he talks to Jin, cue some Mikono (and Zessica, lol) jealousy? Last edited by miketyson; 2012-02-25 at 18:53. Reason: Addendum |
2012-02-25, 21:18 | Link #1965 | |
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If they could clone Apollo, why they didn't clone Silvia if they needed someone as strong as her? Not believing the clone theory anymore.
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2012-02-26, 00:19 | Link #1966 | ||
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Hey I don't care either way about this theory, but I'm pointing out your argument has holes, or at least loopholes that can be exploited.
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2012-02-26, 01:42 | Link #1967 | |
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That doesn't make any sense... Apollo's genetic code would be more inaccessible if anything? Furthermore, if Kagura was a clone of Apollo, wouldn't they cherish him more? They wanted to mate the Eve with Jin, rather than him and seem to ignore him. It seems that they have no idea if he has an hypothetical connection with him, aside of maybe Mykage.
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2012-02-26, 03:59 | Link #1968 | |
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Also, Kagura seems to be in a rather privileged position, judging by the fact that he has his own mecha, that he seems to be allowed to do pretty much whatever he wants, and the amount of insubordination and messing up that he got away with before he got locked up in that cage - and I think Mykage only locked him up because he knew what Izumo and Jin were planning and wanted to make sure that Kagura would sit in one place and watch it. (That said, I think it's highly unlikely that anyone is a clone or an otherwise genetically engineered life form here...) Last edited by kuromitsu; 2012-02-26 at 04:12. |
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2012-02-26, 04:30 | Link #1969 | |
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Kagura's mecha is locked up and created only recently by Jin. Izumo conversation with Mykage in the 6 the episode pretty much shows that Izumo thinks Kagura is playing again and it's nothing special, basically no one cares(except Mykage) what Kagura wants(sit in the cage and don't be a burden, Mr. Wild Child). This 8 episode looked like a secret educational program "unprotected sex makes babies". |
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2012-02-26, 05:11 | Link #1970 | ||
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What I got from the series so far is that Kagura is a high-ranking person over at Altair, but he's difficult to control so Izumo mostly lets him be until he goes too far. Going by Izumo's words in ep 7 he'd been locked up at least once but I guess it happened before the series started because we haven't seen him being punished neither for wrecking his mecha (giving more work to Jin) nor for clear insubordination and wrecking other Altair mecha. And Izumo's phrasing implies that this time at least it wasn't Izumo who decided on the punishment which makes me think it might have been Mykage. (And I think Mykage cares more about what Mykage wants rather than what Kagura wants... it's just that in this case the two probably overlap on some level.) |
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2012-02-26, 06:29 | Link #1971 | |
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Jin's age? I am guessing that he shouldn't be younger than 14. Age in anime is a tough matter. |
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2012-02-26, 06:59 | Link #1972 | |
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Re: Jin's age, when Mykage appears to Izumo and Jin he mentions that Jin has grown a lot, which implies that 9 years ago (or whenever it was that Mykage went to sleep, though I suppose it was 9 years ago after Donar's incident) Jin was a small boy. 14-16 seems to be right. |
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2012-02-26, 08:23 | Link #1973 |
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I'm going with the "Kagura isn't from Altair" theory: I'm running with the Mykage brought Kagura with him when he came to Altair, and part of the price of the dimension gates and mech designs was something along the lines of "raise this foundling Kagura as one of your own...". Or something.
But guys guys guys: what if Kagura *is* Apollo? Something like this: Mykage stole some parallel-universe's Apollo as a young child and has been raising him on his own? Possibly Altair, as part of why Altair's all messed up now (the events 12k years ago turned out very differently...). |
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Mykage is feeding Kagura's jealousy by playing Altair's goal of mating *The Last Son of Altair* against them, and directing Kagura's fury at Jin. Its fairly evident that Mykage is on his own side in all of this.
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