2009-03-10, 19:21 | Link #1081 | |
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Natsu knows just enough, after all he got his transformation of Lucy pretty spot on
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2009-03-12, 01:58 | Link #1084 |
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I hope Luxus doesn't get up again. They already pulled that tired bit of the fallen villain getting back up in Negima!.
Natsu is very much like Luffy, but that's what I love about him. Gazelle confuses me. That seems like another tired cliche. The bad guy acting like a good guy who's trying to take the good guys down from inside. I just seem him getting too attached the FairyTale and not going through with the plan. They better answer why it was Nastu and Gazelle couldn't get out of the guild originally.
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2009-03-13, 02:23 | Link #1087 |
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Ugh, how many times is Natsu gonna tear up the supposedly godlike villain? So he just gets stronger and stronger for no reason whatsoever and crushes the strongest guy in the guild? Whats the point of the manga if he main character can never lose?
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2009-03-13, 06:49 | Link #1088 | |
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These series are all about a hero who overcomes a villain that seems impossible with not just the strength of his body, but the power of the heart. One Piece is a lot like FairyTale. A simple minded hero and a band of others who bond like family. Even Luffy's Gear system he pulled out out of nowhere during the Enes Lobby arc.
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2009-03-13, 12:27 | Link #1090 | |
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2009-03-13, 12:52 | Link #1091 | |
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2009-03-13, 13:11 | Link #1092 |
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Ridiculous damage endurance is the inevitable characteristic of battle manga main characters. Even the like of Hajime no Ippo, the "realistic ones" is like that too.
Repetitive and what not. I won't argue about that. But Luxus lost simply because he lost his will to fight. Natsu had the technique with enough destructive power to floor Luxus (heck, Mike Tyson can floor him). He just couldn't use it. Because Luxus pawned the asshole out of him. Then gave up. But, oh boy, DBZ isn't repetitive? And Mar? It used the exact equation from Flame of Recca. It's just a huge tournament of some sort, with opponents pre-ordered, then jump in, fight and the good guys win 99% of the time. NO casualties. We agree that this arc isn't all that great. But problems of this arc are of this arc, not of the whole manga (hopefully). Last edited by Cinocard; 2009-03-14 at 20:53. |
2009-03-13, 17:36 | Link #1093 |
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I think it's the fighting that seems repetative. No matter what Natsu does, it all looks like he's turning his fist on fire or blowing fire at people, there isn't as much variation and character in his attacks as characters like Luffy, who has a large variety of very distinct and well-portrayed special moves.
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2009-03-14, 01:02 | Link #1095 | |
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Much in how they did the odd remake of the Drum Island arc with Robin and Franky in the crew already.
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2009-03-14, 01:28 | Link #1096 | ||
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And the difference between Natsu and other Shonen heroes is that Natsu STARTS strong... most shonen heroes start near the bottom and spend the whole series working their way up to the top. Natsu however at the very begining of the manga is praised as one of the strongest characters around; few can really match him... Natsu isn't pulling new moves out of no where, he has ALWAYS had these moves... he is a seasoned fighter and already has a pre-existing moveset; its just a matter of when he actually shows these moves in fact though they say he's an A-class fighter, phantom's top 5 members were considered s-class fighters and Natsu beat two of them; which seems to indicate Natsu was not to far from s-class himself... really, is Natsu's rise in strength any different from Luffy in one piece? i mean Luffy is never seen training and just grows strong by just fighting on... only difference between the 2 is that Natsu starts off the series already at a relatively high level... though i do admit, the drawback is that it makes Natsu less likely to actually loose a fight, and him loosing would be a good change of pace; it was only against Jose' that someone other than Natsu dealt the final blow... Mashima's should know it's not bad to let other characters have the spotlight once in a while Quote:
one could possibly argue that some of those movies did happen in between the major arcs when the strawhats were sailing around... while some do not fit, others could... it's pretty much is up to oda as to whether or not non-manga material should be considered canon; word of god and all that Last edited by Slayerx; 2009-03-14 at 01:43. |
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2009-03-14, 03:47 | Link #1097 | |
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Natsu resembles Luffy quite a lot, and remember that Luffy got 1HKO'd by Aokiji, that's an utter defeat...and he lost to Lucci in Water-7 too. Haru also lost to Drew and Lucia in Rave, Natsu will probably lose a fight somewhen in the future...but not while fighting his guild mates, it's just not enough of a serious reason to make him lose!
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2009-03-14, 03:59 | Link #1098 |
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I don't understand why some of you guys are complaining, unless this is your first shounen series. Maybe you are expecting Fairy Tail to be different (i.e. better) than One Piece, Bleach etc. when it really isn't - it's just standard shounen. This means that it will have shounen cliches like the main character getting beat up by a much stronger antagonist only to rise again and again with nothing more than the power of will and KO'ing the villain in one final attack.
However, it also has all the good characteristics of shounen like the spirit to never give up, the exciting battles and cool moments, the heartwarming friendship scenes etc. This chapter was very emotional at the end when Natsu let out a fierce cry of desperation after defeating someone whom he still considers a friend. On a different note, did you guys read the preview for next week's chapter? It was about how one must be punished for one's mistakes despite friendship/relative ties. It strongly suggests that Luxus will not get out of this with a slap on the back. Death is probably too harsh a punishment, but what I suspect will happen is he'll be exiled from the guild. This will give him a chance to ponder over what he's done and perhaps return too aid the heroes later, or maybe reunite with his father and return later as a stronger villain. I've got to admit, I like the second option better.
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2009-03-14, 08:18 | Link #1099 |
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It probably would be the later - return as a stronger villian. And thats IF he rejects the guild right here. I can also see that his father probably also knows the deal about the Dragons as well. He'd be a fool not to - he's probably the one who set Luxus up to learn Dragon Slayer in the first place.
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2009-03-15, 12:54 | Link #1100 | |
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