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Arya · 2019-07-29, 09:37

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Originally Posted by Haak

If Senku really is dead then I'd be sold on this story because that was quite a strong episode. Not perfect though: Taiju's confession delay was a total cop out, and the flashback went on for a little too long but the tension in this cat and mouse game was well done and Senku's death opens up a lot of opportunities for Taiju and Yuzuriha to grow.

I'm pretty uncertain about which way it could go though. In my opinion, if the story truly intended to kill Senku it would've ended on an unquestionable death rather than a cliffhanger, so I'm leaning towards him surviving somehow.

I'm ten billion percent sure he is not dead!!!
(sorry, I had to

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frodonk · 2019-08-02, 10:41

We still don't know if he died, but considering he's the MC he's obviously alive.

Maybe I'm just too used to the fast pacing of other series but this week's episode didn't really add anything, there's nothing here that we didn't know before, except maybe that Tsukasa's also apparently fireproof!

FlareKnight · 2019-08-02, 10:47

Yeah, this wasn't too interesting of an episode. Not sure we really needed to see Senku getting started after he revived himself from stone. Although I suppose it is interesting that he appeared to have revived himself through pure willpower. Not entirely sure that some petrification on the back would save him from having his neck shattered from the front, but he's the main character so can hardly die here.

Also apparently all this time spent getting gunpowder was useless for the main goal of stopping Tsukasa. Not even sure why this guy needed the globe to become a stone world for his plan. He's OP enough that I'm sure guns couldn't actually hit him. At least it lead to a secondary goal of finding people.

It did suck some life from the conflict. The main characters can't die so they are fine. But Tsukasa is clearly the main antagonist for this early part so he's not going down either. Now he can go back to murdering people and start building his own child army. Main cast are in a bad spot regardless of how fast Senku picks himself up from that encounter.

grecefar · 2019-08-02, 22:39

Previous chapter maybe it was obvious that senkuu was baiting tsukasa to attack the neck, but to think he was since the beginning like he knew it would come to this in worse case.

Random14 · 2019-08-03, 01:56

Too bad they dragged things out a bit. Its a bit hard to adapt these scenes with all the explaining, and they made Tsukasa look even more invincible than he already was, what with how he was on fire and it didn't bother him. I think that was a bit different from the manga.

So now its flashback to when Senku first broke out. I wish they hadn't ended the episode at that scene, a lot of it was already recap from earlier (Senku counting until the present). In a weekly manga its one thing but the anime can't afford that much time. Anyway, it was nice to see Taiju and Yuzuriha figure out what Senku was planning. They take a bit to put it together but they also know Senku well, that he wouldn't sacrifice anyone (including himself). Hopefully they won't take too much longer with the flashback. They've escaped Tsukasa for now but still need some way to fight him.

thundrakkon · 2019-08-03, 02:17

Good thing this is shounen and fantasy... Otherwise, Senku would have suffered brain damage without oxygen for that period of time, and he wouldn't have the full use of his amazing brain anymore.

magnumcyclonex · 2019-08-03, 02:46

It's too bad the main character didn't actually die. I was hoping for a story where new "main" characters get introduced every so often, after others die, where they continue the work their predecessors had laid out.

So far, it seems that fantasy > science, especially with the whole neck part. Senku obviously knew he had some protection, and was doing all the subtle movements, like cracking his neck to send a subliminal message to Tsukasa to target that area, knowing that the other two could work together to figure out that he wouldn't sacrifice himself at all.

moridin84 · 2019-08-03, 07:40

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Originally Posted by magnumcyclonex

It's too bad the main character didn't actually die. I was hoping for a story where new "main" characters get introduced every so often, after others die, where they continue the work their predecessors had laid out.

So far, it seems that fantasy > science, especially with the whole neck part. Senku obviously knew he had some protection, and was doing all the subtle movements, like cracking his neck to send a subliminal message to Tsukasa to target that area, knowing that the other two could work together to figure out that he wouldn't sacrifice himself at all.

What did you think that Senku meant? When he said he planned to beat fantasy with science?

orion · 2019-08-03, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Random14

Too bad they dragged things out a bit. Its a bit hard to adapt these scenes with all the explaining, and they made Tsukasa look even more invincible than he already was, what with how he was on fire and it didn't bother him. I think that was a bit different from the manga.

So now its flashback to when Senku first broke out. I wish they hadn't ended the episode at that scene, a lot of it was already recap from earlier (Senku counting until the present). In a weekly manga its one thing but the anime can't afford that much time. Anyway, it was nice to see Taiju and Yuzuriha figure out what Senku was planning. They take a bit to put it together but they also know Senku well, that he wouldn't sacrifice anyone (including himself). Hopefully they won't take too much longer with the flashback. They've escaped Tsukasa for now but still need some way to fight him.

Why do they have to fight him? Tsukasa sets up his zone. Senku sets up his zone and they don't bother each other. They've got a whole planet to work with.

Haak · 2019-08-04, 04:21

I like how Taiju and Yuzuriha announced their determination to beat Tsukasa with science yet what they did was clearly well within the realms of fantasy.

A much weaker episode this time. Unfortunately I don't see any chance of Senku dying now that they spent that long trying (and failing) to justify his survival. And then they felt the need to waste time further with an unnecessary flashback.

I'm hoping the show will start spending more time developing the chess game between the protagonists and Tsukasa because the science worshipping has become a repetitive chore at this point. Otherwise I'll probably end up dropping it.

moridin84 · 2019-08-04, 05:04

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Originally Posted by orion

Why do they have to fight him? Tsukasa sets up his zone. Senku sets up his zone and they don't bother each other. They've got a whole planet to work with.

Tsukasa wants to kill every single adult in Japan.

Arya · 2019-08-04, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Haak

I'm hoping the show will start spending more time developing the chess game between the protagonists and Tsukasa because the science worshipping has become a repetitive chore at this point. Otherwise I'll probably end up dropping it.

mmm, I think I'll just wait for the next episode, this one doesn't seem worth watching.

orion · 2019-08-04, 18:51

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Originally Posted by moridin84

Tsukasa wants to kill every single adult in Japan.

They're pretty much "dead" already. If you're going for a "clean slate", you don't bring back the people who caused the problem. At this point, you don't know who were the serial killers, robbers, rapists etc. Safer to bring back younger kids first.

felix · 2019-08-04, 19:52

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Originally Posted by orion

They're pretty much "dead" already. If you're going for a "clean slate", you don't bring back the people who caused the problem. At this point, you don't know who were the serial killers, robbers, rapists etc. Safer to bring back younger kids first.

The younger kids aren't doctors, scientists, engineers, farmers, etc. If you want to bring back (stable) civilization bring back the people who actually know shit, not the people who need to be taken care of.

Tsukasa is a moron. His ideology requires every little "kid" to be brainwashed (somehow) to his doctrine to avoid going mad and also be shonen levels OP.

Besides he himself is an example of how the so called "pure" can be worse then the so called "evil adults."

Are the designs and story of this series made by the same guy who did Akumetsu? [edit] guess not, sure is similar

moridin84 · 2019-08-05, 04:06

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Originally Posted by orion

They're pretty much "dead" already. If you're going for a "clean slate", you don't bring back the people who caused the problem. At this point, you don't know who were the serial killers, robbers, rapists etc. Safer to bring back younger kids first.

Well, that's your opinion.

Senku has a different one which is the cause of the conflict.

Applehell · 2019-08-06, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Haak

I like how Taiju and Yuzuriha announced their determination to beat Tsukasa with science yet what they did was clearly well within the realms of fantasy.

A much weaker episode this time. Unfortunately I don't see any chance of Senku dying now that they spent that long trying (and failing) to justify his survival. And then they felt the need to waste time further with an unnecessary flashback.

I'm hoping the show will start spending more time developing the chess game between the protagonists and Tsukasa because the science worshipping has become a repetitive chore at this point. Otherwise I'll probably end up dropping it.

Yeah, I thought last week flashback was much better and establishing why science was so important to Senku in an organic way. I'm not sure what was point this one was. I don't feel like it necessary to talk about the time when Senku woke up unless he noticed something crucial to situation.

frodonk · 2019-08-09, 12:13

They addressed the issue of the birds, looks like we'll get an answer down the line.

As for this tribal girl, I didn't really think of the possibility of other people waking up years ago then having kids and forming a tribal society. I guess that old man from the OP can answer that once he's introduced.

Randrak42 · 2019-08-09, 15:05

Best girl is here

Haak · 2019-08-09, 16:48

Welp, Senku ain't dead. On the other hand they did manage to tie that flashback in a nice thematic manner, the focus can now turn to the more interesting chess match between the two sides, and Kohaku has already made an impression on me.

I guess I'm still sticking to this show after all.

Applehell · 2019-08-09, 17:18

I liked the 2nd part of Senku flashback quite a bit better too. Even if it's a bit cheezy the scene where he woke up was rather heartwarming.

Never considered that new generation of humans might be born in this era, but it does make sense that it was possible other humans were release from their stone confident long before Senku did. Thankfully, Senku didn't have to worry about Kohaku joining Tsukasa side after witnessing that whole scene.

2019-08-02, 10:41	Link #142
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	We still don't know if he died, but considering he's the MC he's obviously alive. Maybe I'm just too used to the fast pacing of other series but this week's episode didn't really add anything, there's nothing here that we didn't know before, except maybe that Tsukasa's also apparently fireproof! __________________ Just my MAL profile, I'm putting this here for no particular reason.

2019-08-02, 10:47	Link #143
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah, this wasn't too interesting of an episode. Not sure we really needed to see Senku getting started after he revived himself from stone. Although I suppose it is interesting that he appeared to have revived himself through pure willpower. Not entirely sure that some petrification on the back would save him from having his neck shattered from the front, but he's the main character so can hardly die here. Also apparently all this time spent getting gunpowder was useless for the main goal of stopping Tsukasa. Not even sure why this guy needed the globe to become a stone world for his plan. He's OP enough that I'm sure guns couldn't actually hit him. At least it lead to a secondary goal of finding people. It did suck some life from the conflict. The main characters can't die so they are fine. But Tsukasa is clearly the main antagonist for this early part so he's not going down either. Now he can go back to murdering people and start building his own child army. Main cast are in a bad spot regardless of how fast Senku picks himself up from that encounter. __________________ Anime-Evo

2019-08-03, 02:17	Link #146
thundrakkon Anime-Only Viewer Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA	Good thing this is shounen and fantasy... Otherwise, Senku would have suffered brain damage without oxygen for that period of time, and he wouldn't have the full use of his amazing brain anymore. __________________

2019-08-04, 04:21	Link #150
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	I like how Taiju and Yuzuriha announced their determination to beat Tsukasa with science yet what they did was clearly well within the realms of fantasy. A much weaker episode this time. Unfortunately I don't see any chance of Senku dying now that they spent that long trying (and failing) to justify his survival. And then they felt the need to waste time further with an unnecessary flashback. I'm hoping the show will start spending more time developing the chess game between the protagonists and Tsukasa because the science worshipping has become a repetitive chore at this point. Otherwise I'll probably end up dropping it. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2019-08-09, 12:13	Link #157
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	They addressed the issue of the birds, looks like we'll get an answer down the line. As for this tribal girl, I didn't really think of the possibility of other people waking up years ago then having kids and forming a tribal society. I guess that old man from the OP can answer that once he's introduced. __________________ Just my MAL profile, I'm putting this here for no particular reason.

2019-08-02, 22:39	Link #144
grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	Previous chapter maybe it was obvious that senkuu was baiting tsukasa to attack the neck, but to think he was since the beginning like he knew it would come to this in worse case.

2019-08-03, 01:56	Link #145
Random14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	Too bad they dragged things out a bit. Its a bit hard to adapt these scenes with all the explaining, and they made Tsukasa look even more invincible than he already was, what with how he was on fire and it didn't bother him. I think that was a bit different from the manga. So now its flashback to when Senku first broke out. I wish they hadn't ended the episode at that scene, a lot of it was already recap from earlier (Senku counting until the present). In a weekly manga its one thing but the anime can't afford that much time. Anyway, it was nice to see Taiju and Yuzuriha figure out what Senku was planning. They take a bit to put it together but they also know Senku well, that he wouldn't sacrifice anyone (including himself). Hopefully they won't take too much longer with the flashback. They've escaped Tsukasa for now but still need some way to fight him.

2019-08-03, 02:46	Link #147
magnumcyclonex Cyclone Magnum Join Date: Apr 2004	It's too bad the main character didn't actually die. I was hoping for a story where new "main" characters get introduced every so often, after others die, where they continue the work their predecessors had laid out. So far, it seems that fantasy > science, especially with the whole neck part. Senku obviously knew he had some protection, and was doing all the subtle movements, like cracking his neck to send a subliminal message to Tsukasa to target that area, knowing that the other two could work together to figure out that he wouldn't sacrifice himself at all.

2019-08-09, 15:05	Link #158
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Best girl is here

2019-08-09, 16:48	Link #159
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Welp, Senku ain't dead. On the other hand they did manage to tie that flashback in a nice thematic manner, the focus can now turn to the more interesting chess match between the two sides, and Kohaku has already made an impression on me. I guess I'm still sticking to this show after all. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2019-08-09, 17:18	Link #160
Applehell Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	I liked the 2nd part of Senku flashback quite a bit better too. Even if it's a bit cheezy the scene where he woke up was rather heartwarming. Never considered that new generation of humans might be born in this era, but it does make sense that it was possible other humans were release from their stone confident long before Senku did. Thankfully, Senku didn't have to worry about Kohaku joining Tsukasa side after witnessing that whole scene.