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Chaos2Frozen · 2012-04-23, 08:51

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Originally Posted by blewin

so when is the second season coming out? don't seem to see this in the upcoming anime forum.

This Summer.

Raviel · 2012-07-09, 09:01

Can anyone provide a general summary of the story so far in the anime (both seasons)? I get that they've rescued Horizon and then Musashi is suddenly attacked by Tres Espana but then it gets a bit blurry for me.

Was the main cast planning to....

Spoiler for spoiler tags to be safe:

Horizon's plot kind of confuses me thanks to how slow it seems to be advancing so yeah...... XD

Dark Wing · 2012-07-09, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Raviel

Can anyone provide a general summary of the story so far in the anime (both seasons)? I get that they've rescued Horizon and then Musashi is suddenly attacked by Tres Espana but then it gets a bit blurry for me.

Was the main cast planning to....

Spoiler for spoiler tags to be safe:

Horizon's plot kind of confuses me thanks to how slow it seems to be advancing so yeah...... XD

1. Yes that is indeed their goal it was stated back during season 1

2. Musashi was already on their way to Britain in order to make an alliance with it's queen.

3. Tre Espana went after then because Gin (the woman with the huge arms) wanted to restore her husband Muneshige honor by defeating them. If she fails the Testament Union will force her to take a new husband.

The plot isn't too hard to follow really it's story about a rebellion beyond that everything pretty much given to you in the show you just have to pay attention to what people are saying.

Mars Mode · 2012-07-09, 12:13

1.- You must remember they are trying to gather the DAS but they cannot without some kind of plan they are going against the entire world as Toori put it. After all the DAS are nukes.

3.-Adding on the tres Espana thing, they want to take Musashi under their control, but they cant do it without a cause which Masazumi dismissed the previous season, but they did what any other goverment do, they forced false charges on them and once they are under their control then they can do whatever they want.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-17, 13:26

in the 2nd ep, when Gin and Juana was visiting the orphans, Gin ask if Juana was going to give candy to the half-Elven children and Juana reply she will. Since she remind by the chancellor to be fair.

what is issue here? in a world setting with a slime and a metallic half dragon character i can't imagine racism to be much of a issue.

Marcus H. · 2012-07-17, 18:56

IIRC, there's race issues between the elves, the humans and the half-elves, thus Gin's suggestion to be fair. A simple task such as giving candy to children might actually have an impact in the country's diplomacy with other races.

By the way, the architecture of Alcalá de Henares reflects the Islamic influences that they had when the Umayyads (probably P.A. ODA) conquered much of Spain in the past.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-17, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

IIRC, there's race issues between the elves, the humans and the half-elves, thus Gin's suggestion to be fair. A simple task such as giving candy to children might actually have an impact in the country's diplomacy with other races.

By the way, the architecture of Alcalá de Henares reflects the Islamic influences that they had when the Umayyads (probably P.A. ODA) conquered much of Spain in the past.

what kind of issues?

Kunagisa · 2012-07-17, 19:20

I haven't read the Q+A/Twitter comments for this week yet, so I'm not sure if it's explained there but translating 長寿族 to elven's kinda ... non-optimal ... (as per your own post from before, there are other names they could've taken). This would make it more self-apparent on what the issue at hand is.

The "half elf" (半寿族) is obviously a mix-ethnic that came from humans and "elves" procreating, but they're all "retarded" (in the most literal sense). They age like humans, but mentally they develop like "elves", so if hypothetically "elves" takes 100 years to reach the mental age of 50 for human years (because they would naturally live to the age of 200), "half elves" at age 50 would have a mental age of 25. On himado, you can see people refer this mix race as "reverse (Detective) Conan". Since you visit the novel thread, I'll add a bit extra spoilers

Spoiler for not a huge spoiler but spoiler nonetheless from novel:

In other words, "elves" develop mentally slower than humans.

Marcus H. · 2012-07-17, 19:27

"Elves" is easier to understand as long as you attach the "immortal" property to them.

And by the way, Juana is Half-Elven.

Xacual · 2012-07-17, 20:09

Wait would Shakespeare be a "half-elf" too then? She aged at what looks like the same rate as Neshinbara.

Marcus H. · 2012-07-17, 20:28

^ She is a half-elf too. But assuming that she is 18 years old, she currently has the mental age of someone much younger than that.

NoemiChan · 2012-07-17, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ She is a half-elf too. But assuming that she is 18 years old, she currently has the mental age of someone much younger than that.

She's scary for her age.....

articuzwolf · 2012-07-18, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

"Elves" is easier to understand as long as you attach the "immortal" property to them.

And by the way, Juana is Half-Elven.

so she's actually an old hag despite of her appearance?

btw is it her (Juana) who wrote the letter for Felipe in the near end of episode 2?

Marcus H. · 2012-07-18, 00:58

^ If we estimate a Half-Elf's mental age as half its physical age, then we have a 36-year-old Juana who acts like an elder sister at 18 and a (seemingly broken) Thomas who despite looking 18 and acting 9 still has a killing intent like that.

And no, I don't think Juana was the one who wrote the letter. Besides, they're colleagues now; wouldn't it be easier for Juana to say it directly to him?

Cosmic Eagle · 2012-07-18, 02:33

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ If we estimate a Half-Elf's mental age as half its physical age, then we have a 36-year-old Juana who acts like an elder sister at 18 and a (seemingly broken) Thomas who despite looking 18 and acting 9 still has a killing intent like that.

And no, I don't think Juana was the one who wrote the letter. Besides, they're colleagues now; wouldn't it be easier for Juana to say it directly to him?

I have never read vol 2 so don't take my word for this....but judging what Juana said earlier to Gin....about why they both trust Souchou and Muneshige respectively...

Makes me think that it was her who wrote the letter

articuzwolf · 2012-07-18, 04:59

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ If we estimate a Half-Elf's mental age as half its physical age, then we have a 36-year-old Juana who acts like an elder sister at 18 and a (seemingly broken) Thomas who despite looking 18 and acting 9 still has a killing intent like that.

And no, I don't think Juana was the one who wrote the letter. Besides, they're colleagues now; wouldn't it be easier for Juana to say it directly to him?

not sure either, but they showed Juana quite a lot when Felipe read that letter

giving me the impression that Juana was the little girl saved by Felipe in the flashback and letter has become some kind of their tradition for heart to heart talk since then

but again since I didn't read the novel so that's just my guess

hoshino_crimsonwings · 2012-07-24, 13:34

So who exactly is the VA of Mary?

sento · 2012-07-24, 15:08

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Originally Posted by hoshino_crimsonwings

So who exactly is the VA of Mary?

Yui Horie.

hoshino_crimsonwings · 2012-07-25, 08:13

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Originally Posted by sento

Yui Horie.

Awesome! Thanks.

Kotohono · 2012-07-26, 09:40

So I just finished watching S1 of Horizon and I have one question regarding the detail of the Armaments of Deadly Sins, at the end of S1 did they obtained 1 or 2 of Armaments(not counting Horizon herself), as they clearly obtained the one Muneshige was using, but it wasn't clear if the got the one Galileo had after he was defeated, so did Horizon Ariadust Academy get that Armament or not? (During S1)

2012-07-09, 09:01	Link #82
Raviel Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	Can anyone provide a general summary of the story so far in the anime (both seasons)? I get that they've rescued Horizon and then Musashi is suddenly attacked by Tres Espana but then it gets a bit blurry for me. Was the main cast planning to.... Spoiler for spoiler tags to be safe: 1. Gather the rest of the sin armaments for Horizon and to be able to oppose the Testament Union? 2. However, Musashi is forced to side track to Britain as a result of the attack by Tres Espana right? 3. While I'm at it I might as well ask why Tres Espana attacked Musashi as well Horizon's plot kind of confuses me thanks to how slow it seems to be advancing so yeah...... XD

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Xellos-_^ Not Enough Sleep Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: R'lyeh Age: 48	in the 2nd ep, when Gin and Juana was visiting the orphans, Gin ask if Juana was going to give candy to the half-Elven children and Juana reply she will. Since she remind by the chancellor to be fair. what is issue here? in a world setting with a slime and a metallic half dragon character i can't imagine racism to be much of a issue. __________________

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Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	IIRC, there's race issues between the elves, the humans and the half-elves, thus Gin's suggestion to be fair. A simple task such as giving candy to children might actually have an impact in the country's diplomacy with other races. By the way, the architecture of Alcalá de Henares reflects the Islamic influences that they had when the Umayyads (probably P.A. ODA) conquered much of Spain in the past. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-07-17, 19:20	Link #88
Kunagisa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	I haven't read the Q+A/Twitter comments for this week yet, so I'm not sure if it's explained there but translating 長寿族 to elven's kinda ... non-optimal ... (as per your own post from before, there are other names they could've taken). This would make it more self-apparent on what the issue at hand is. The "half elf" (半寿族) is obviously a mix-ethnic that came from humans and "elves" procreating, but they're all "retarded" (in the most literal sense). They age like humans, but mentally they develop like "elves", so if hypothetically "elves" takes 100 years to reach the mental age of 50 for human years (because they would naturally live to the age of 200), "half elves" at age 50 would have a mental age of 25. On himado, you can see people refer this mix race as "reverse (Detective) Conan". Since you visit the novel thread, I'll add a bit extra spoilers Spoiler for not a huge spoiler but spoiler nonetheless from novel: 長寿族 further splits into many two major groups, humans types and demon types, human types further split into mountain, forest, and pure type. Spoiler for season 1 episode 1: The "loli" you see in the beginning of the very first episode is a pure type and she's longest living besides Azuma's papa in the GENESIS period. You can calculate at least how long she's alive ever since "heaven" fell down. In other words, "elves" develop mentally slower than humans.

2012-07-17, 19:27	Link #89
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	"Elves" is easier to understand as long as you attach the "immortal" property to them. And by the way, Juana is Half-Elven. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	1.- You must remember they are trying to gather the DAS but they cannot without some kind of plan they are going against the entire world as Toori put it. After all the DAS are nukes. 3.-Adding on the tres Espana thing, they want to take Musashi under their control, but they cant do it without a cause which Masazumi dismissed the previous season, but they did what any other goverment do, they forced false charges on them and once they are under their control then they can do whatever they want.

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Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Wait would Shakespeare be a "half-elf" too then? She aged at what looks like the same rate as Neshinbara. __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2012-07-17, 20:28	Link #91
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	^ She is a half-elf too. But assuming that she is 18 years old, she currently has the mental age of someone much younger than that. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-07-18, 00:58	Link #94
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	^ If we estimate a Half-Elf's mental age as half its physical age, then we have a 36-year-old Juana who acts like an elder sister at 18 and a (seemingly broken) Thomas who despite looking 18 and acting 9 still has a killing intent like that. And no, I don't think Juana was the one who wrote the letter. Besides, they're colleagues now; wouldn't it be easier for Juana to say it directly to him? __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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hoshino_crimsonwings Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	So who exactly is the VA of Mary? __________________