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Claymore - Speculation & Theories (for first time viewers)
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2007-05-03, 21:42 | Link #2 |
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Thank you for making this thread.
Now my personal theory. Raki will be the one to kill Claire in the end. Note that when a Claymore feels the need to die (because they are in danger of becoming a youma), they submit meekly to the sword of those they most care about. This was demonstrated in episode 2. Episode 4 demonstrated that Claire will ask someone to kill her and accept death as a human, rather than live as a youma. Raki cannot defeat Claire, but he does not need to, as she will patiently wait for the death blow. In episode 2 it was demonstrated that the Claymore will not fight back. In episode 4 Claire kneeled with her sword in front of her, defenseless. As a result, Raki does not need to defeat Claire. What Raki needs to do is come to an understanding that, when the time comes, he must kill her. That is what my (uninformed, but eerily accurate) prediction states: The climactic ending will be Raki killing Claire. To get to that ending the show must largely be about Raki's journey to understanding that he must kill Claire when she asks him to do so. Episode 2 showed Raki crying and pleading Claire not to kill her friend. Episode 4 showed Raki prefering to die himself rather than see Claire dead. This is the fundamental story of Claymore. <-- according to somebody who doesn't know.
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2007-05-07, 11:23 | Link #3 |
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They can just as easily die together....or even live on together.
Still, I think that the Claymore Org will put out some kind of order against Raki and Clare will have to defend him for a time against other Claymores. Of course then Raki will be taken away from her anyway...and she'll flip out. |
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Do you think the Org is actually trying to manufacture youma? This scenario sounds like they could be trying to push her over the edge. |
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2007-05-07, 17:36 | Link #5 | |
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2007-05-08, 15:40 | Link #7 |
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When the 'righteous' tries to dabble with/control that which is inherently 'evil', they also become 'evil' by the virtue of they are the ones trying to manipulate they very evil they are suppose to oppose. Of course, all they can manage is manipulating mindless evil...
I'd love to see Raki bust out of whatever prison he gets himself into because of either his love for Clare (romantic or sibiling related) or he gets a sudden 'golden eye' moment, and does ownage on a few Claymores himself. ^^b |
2007-05-09, 01:34 | Link #10 | |
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Either way though, I'll be surprised if the organisation isn't complicit in some way with the yoma problem - at the very least they seem to be doing quite well financially out of the situation. Then again, the series has already thrown up a few red herrings and twists so perhaps they have nothing but the noblest intentions. Yeah, right. |
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2007-05-09, 01:48 | Link #11 |
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Somehow I would be surprised if any large mysterious organization in an anime turned out to be philanthropic and benevolent.
But who knows, perhaps the fees are necessary to cover their operating and training expenses.
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2007-05-09, 07:45 | Link #12 | |
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Ho, ho! I just thought of this. Perhaps Claire is unique in not accepting the payment. The only other Claymore we have been able to observe, so far, is apparently her mentor. Perhaps Claymore typically get a cut of the money and are much better adjusted mentally than Claire and Theresa? Then it could be that the Organization is much more benign than we think (because we are viewing them mostly from the perspective of Claire). Maybe most Claymore spend a lot of time back at the Organization's HQ, which has a pool, and brings in theater groups from all over to entertain the girls? |
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2007-05-10, 11:02 | Link #13 | |
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Also, although the Claymore do not accept any payment directly from the townspeople, surely they get some kind of stipend. In episode 6, Teresa is able to buy a set of new clothing. She tells Clare not to worry since she can afford it. I am assuming that Teresa didn't go and pawn something to buy the outfit. As for Claymore pool at HQ... it sounds nice in theory, but unless the girls are wearing one-piece bathing suits, it's implied that a pool scene would not be as hot and scandalous as you might like |
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2007-05-10, 13:10 | Link #14 |
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I've been wondering what it is that could be hideous enough to offend the refined sensibilities of a bunch of bandits intent on rape. It's hard to imagine it being anything other than an anticlimax after this build up. A nasty scar isn't going to cut the mustard at this point.
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2007-05-10, 14:53 | Link #16 |
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ah well, when I first encountered that scene I simply thought that maybe she manipulated her body to show a grotesque mish mash of human and yoma flesh or something. Just a trick to fool the bandits and discourage them from going after her without the need to fight. Until it is shown to the audience what a claymore's upperbody looks like I'll stick with my own interpretation.
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