(L) Ebiten (えびてん)

[FredFriendly]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Kind of like Monty Python.

What an insult, comparing this absolute dreck to one of the finest comedy troupes ever.

Nothing in the first seven minutes of this show (which was all I could stand before I had to turn it off) even remotely reminded of me of anything Monty Python, which I have watched since it first aired in 1969. Nor did it remind me of Ichigo Mashimaro, which is one of my favorites.

I'd say more, but I've wasted enough of my time on this garbage.

[DragoonKain3]

Goddamit, I just can't watch the show as I feel it's gonna give me eye cancer. It's like watching digital anime subs back in the early 2000 all over again. Which, granted, is nostalgic, but isn't a time I want to go back to.

Any odds this is gonna see a 'real' release? Because at this rate I might not even finish 1 episode, let alone the 3 I force myself to see of every sub anime.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Any odds this is gonna see a 'real' release? Because at this rate I might not even finish 1 episode, let alone the 3 I force myself to see of every sub anime.

Unlikely it's only airing on NicoNico after all I believe. I think I heard SeiZon is going to be the same way too

[DragoonKain3]

SeiZon s2 too? Well !@#$!@#$%T^

[tsunade666]

Is this only aired at the net so they can only do webrip? because the resolution is bad.... and is seizon will be the same as this? THE HELL!

[DXMichael]

Well...that was a rather super-hero like opening....

I can see from previous comments that this is going to be an anime that's split down the middle between 'like' and 'dislike'.

For me, fan service is fan service, so that's one positive to keep me watching

The comedy is...eh. it puts a small smile on my face but it doesn't give me laughter like Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou did. I like the fact that they made a parody of Saint Seiya, so it makes me wonder if they'll be doing a different parody of an anime each episode.

I especially like Kanamori, she's nice to watch in every way

[teja208]

Great start, Saint Seya's theme was hilarious and fitting for the astronomical (?) club. Hopefully, we will get some other anime references later. I'm still not sure what to make of characters as this is just the first episode, but there are things I'm looking forwerd to for the next episode.

1. Noya's reaction after realizing he joined the wrong club. (This should be funny)
2. Other members' reaction when they found out about Noya's real gender. (and how)
3. The thing that prevents Itsuki from leaving the club.

[Flower]

Well, I am happy that someone decided to take up this project, but ... umm ... well. Not really my cup of tea, I guess, but it may get better. Will keep trying for now.

[Utsuro no Hako]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Unlikely it's only airing on NicoNico after all I believe. I think I heard SeiZon is going to be the same way too

Upotte was streaming-only before airing on Japanese TV.

[PonSquared]

Is Haruhi so old that the time has come to poorly write copy-cat stories? This show is working really hard to be a Haruhi clone and failing badly. It isn't funny, nor cute, nor full of interesting characters who I want to know more about. It takes everything that was great about Haruhi, blends it up with vapid moe, and spits it out through an extreme otaku fan-boy lens.

Surely anime studios could be producing something... else.... What an embarrassment!

Oh, and please don't soil Monty Python by comparing anything in this dreadful show to it.

[Lord of Fire]

Originally Posted by Sagecat

Is Haruhi so old that the time has come to poorly write copy-cat stories? This show is working really hard to be a Haruhi clone and failing badly. It isn't funny, nor cute, nor full of interesting characters who I want to know more about. It takes everything that was great about Haruhi, blends it up with vapid moe, and spits it out through an extreme otaku fan-boy lens.

Surely anime studios could be producing something... else.... What an embarrassment!

Oh, and please don't soil Monty Python by comparing anything in this dreadful show to it.

How is this a Haruhi clone? I don't really see anything in it that reminds me of that.

It's more reminiscent of Seitokai no Ichizon, which makes sense, since the art for both Sni and Ebiten are done by the same guy.

[Lukeman1884]

Originally Posted by Sagecat

Is Haruhi so old that the time has come to poorly write copy-cat stories? This show is working really hard to be a Haruhi clone and failing badly. It isn't funny, nor cute, nor full of interesting characters who I want to know more about. It takes everything that was great about Haruhi, blends it up with vapid moe, and spits it out through an extreme otaku fan-boy lens.

Surely anime studios could be producing something... else.... What an embarrassment!

Oh, and please don't soil Monty Python by comparing anything in this dreadful show to it.

I.......don't really see the resemblance to Haruhi. Care to clarify?

[teja208]

Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

How is this a Haruhi clone? I don't really see anything in it that reminds me of that.

One of the character from both series have the same name but that's about it.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by FredFriendly

What an insult, comparing this absolute dreck to one of the finest comedy troupes ever. Nothing in the first seven minutes of this show (which was all I could stand before I had to turn it off) even remotely reminded of me of anything Monty Python, which I have watched since it first aired in 1969. Nor did it remind me of Ichigo Mashimaro, which is one of my favorites. I'd say more, but I've wasted enough of my time on this garbage.

Why such strong feelings? When the world "insult" appears, clearly more is involved than just reason. But you do make me question my own taste. So I will be watching even more closely as the series progresses.

In fact, I did rewatch the first seven minutes closely, and continue to see lots of amusing stuff in a style of humour I regard as subtle and deep, for all the broadness involved. Then I rewatched some Monty Python sketches. The settings are different. The direct relation to society and politics is different. But the style of humour seems similar to me: set up a situation in which certain things are expectable, then completely trash the expectations with absurdity, blaring forth human folly and weakness in a way that lets us sympathize rather than condemn. This show has its nasty elements, but perhaps nasty doesn't bother me as much as it does others?

Anyway, thanks for being provocative (or provoked?).

Spoiler for things I liked in the first seven minutes:

1. Amusingly overblown intro of the seven knights of the club room.
2. Beautiful disconnect between school comedy and growling, red-eyed wolves.
3. Teacher losing it and slipping into her real-life attitudes.
3. Red-haired boke falls and, instead of commenting on fall or BL book, the club pres criticizes her for her tone of voice.
4. Resonant half-serious overstatement about being lucky to live today with her friends.
5. Beautiful, if illogical, lengthening of cat's shadow on stairs, with ominous grating sound effects behind.
6. The complete ineffectiveness of the harsh but child-like council president.
7. The unsuitable little smile from the club vp when she hears the screams coming from the clubroom.
8. The fourth-wall breaking of saying stripping Kanemori was for introductory fanservice (I could do without the violent harassment itself, but it was used in a funny way.)
9. The self-importance of the club pres in refusing to accept the new member, for what turns out to be no real reason except her own personal pleasure.
10. The way short blonde hair just happens to have rope with her to tie Kanemori up.
11. The way our hero/ine goes off with the vp for tea, and talks about the nice smell, while violence is being perpetrated just across the room.
12. The talk between the two "innocent" girls about which orifice is being used in the doujin. Didn't see that coming at all.

By the way, one of my favorite Monty Python sketches is The Architect Sketch, where (as you know) an architect played by John Cleese appears in front of a board to pitch his design for a new apartment building.

Spoiler for punch line:

"Clients are carried along this corridor on a conveyor belt, in extreme comfort, toward the rotating knives...." It turns out that this is the first time he has designed anything other than an abbatoir. Then he breaks down emotionally and goes roaring off into a diatribe against secret societies he imagines are blocking his advancement, revealing his insecurities, as the teacher did in this show.

[totoum]

I'm wondering how enjoyable this could possibly be to anyone not familiar with Saint Saya considering a good portion of the episode was a parody of it (how appropriate considering the fujoshi crowd behind it!) special mention to the reverbed voice overs.

It feels like I've lost a few braincells watching it though,so not sure I'll keep going,we'll see.

edit: Monty Python always liked to include a nice dose of social critics that are completely absent here,they don't do absurd just for the sake of it there's generally something deeper behind it.If (i 'd like to insist on the "if" part) there's a show somewhat similar to monty python this season it's Jinrui,not this one.

[FlareKnight]

I guess it goes to show that comedy really is a hit or miss proposition. Didn't have many chuckles if any while watching the first episode. Think using Seitokai no Ichizon's opening music for the trailer forced some comparisons and on that note don't think Ebiten came anywhere close. Though it's only one episode.

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

SeiZon s2 too? Well !@#$!@#$%T^

That's the worst news I've heard all day. Let's hope that's completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Lukeman1884

I.......don't really see the resemblance to Haruhi. Care to clarify?

About the only thing I could pick out was the forced stripping of a female club member.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by totoum

I'm wondering how enjoyable this could possibly be to anyone not familiar with Saint Saya considering a good portion of the episode was a parody of it (how appropriate considering the fujoshi crowd behind it!) special mention to the reverbed voice overs. It feels like I've lost a few braincells watching it though,so not sure I'll keep going,we'll see.

edit: Monty Python always liked to include a nice dose of social critics that are completely absent here,they don't do absurd just for the sake of it there's generally something deeper behind it.If (i 'd like to insist on the "if" part) there's a show somewhat similar to monty python this season it's Jinrui,not this one.

1. I'm not particularly familiar with Saint Seiya. Just watched parts of a couple of episodes. The contrast between the overblown grandeur of the characters and the silliness of the real students is there whether you know the original or not.

2. The idea that that piece of crap Jinrui is anything like Monty Python seems utterly mistaken to me. Lol. Anyway, I think that surface things like social criticism do not necessarily constitute "depth." Human emotions and psychology are deeper. In any case, I can see at least one bit of social criticism here, in the way our babe in the woods accepts the violence around him.

No two people have the same sense of humour, as FlareKnight suggests.

[totoum]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

The idea that that piece of crap Jinrui is anything like Monty Python seems utterly mistaken to me. Lol. Anyway, I think that surface things like social criticism do not necessarily constitute "depth." Human emotions and psychology are deeper. In any case, I can see at least one bit of social criticism here, in the way our babe in the woods accepts the violence around him.

I didn't mean to say that because something has social criticism is automaticly better than something that doesn't,sorry if I didn't make that clear.

No two people have the same sense of humour, as FlareKnight suggests.

Well of course,I just want to make it clear that just because I don't really see any monty python in this it doesn't mean consider Ebiten trash.

[Guardian Enzo]

I don't see anything remotely Monty Python in this, but I also don't consider it trash. I think for many (including myself) MP is such an icon that it can be quite personal to see it compared to something we actively dislike. That's not the case for me here, but I can understand it.

Comedy is indeed the most personal of all tastes in anime. For me Jinrui is so far and away the best show in this season of formula romances, cute girls shows and mindless sex comedies that it's hard to imagine how anyone could feel differently. Yet feel differently they do, and when it comes to comedy there's n accounting for tastes.

[Forsaken_Infinity]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

2. The idea that that piece of crap Jinrui is anything like Monty Python seems utterly mistaken to me. Lol. Anyway, I think that surface things like social criticism do not necessarily constitute "depth." Human emotions and psychology are deeper. In any case, I can see at least one bit of social criticism here, in the way our babe in the woods accepts the violence around him.

Hey now! Why such strong feelings? And as neutral as I like to stay, you're wrong about Jinrui. I like giving things credit where they earn it. Try as I might, my opinion will remain subjective, let's get that out of the way. But, Jinrui is a good show and indeed more similar to Monty Python than the show this thread is about.