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[ganbaru]

Mullah Omar, headscarves and bizarre Afghan peace talks
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76E30C20110715

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

I apologies. The presentation I got at the local Jewish Community Center presented Zionism as those that wanted a "Greater Isreal" with the pre-1920s borders for Palestine under the British agreement to hand over the whole thing to the Jews should they win the First World War. Before the split that broke it into Palestine and Trans-Jordan.

Perhaps the term "real" should have been "radical" instead?

considering that the original division in the U.N (the 1947 one) was accepted by the Zionist movement even though it included even LESS territory then Israel has now, you need to talk to your local Jewish Community Center and ask them to stop spreading erroneous information.

the people who believe in the idea of "greater Israel" do so for religious rational, while Zionism, at least in its roots, was a secular ideology.

[DonQuigleone]

As a (non-practicing) jew, I disagree completely with Zionism, and I won't apologise for it.

It is essentially nationalist, and the idea that the jews have some kind of "right" to Israel is as artificial as any other nationalist movement.

I don't think Zionism is any worse then any other nationalist movement, it just shares the same faults all other forms of Nationilism possess, being essentially exclusionary.

[Vexx]

The US arm of the Murdoch empire (Fox) was caught yesterday burying the story of its UK divisions (and possibly other divisions) in the hacking scandal. Fox News has essentially ignored the entire story and their News Media program hosts were captured in public feed deciding not to say anything about it (during a commercial break).

Meanwhile, some folks in the US (e.g. Hugh Grant) are starting to speak up about being hacked and FBI/Congress are starting to ask questions about US operations.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201107100009
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7641IO20110706

[MrTerrorist]

The gas platform that will be the world's biggest 'ship'

[Ithekro]

I'd like to see them build something like this built in orbit...a huge station, maybe with an engine.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Vexx

The US arm of the Murdoch empire (Fox) was caught yesterday burying the story of its UK divisions (and possibly other divisions) in the hacking scandal. Fox News has essentially ignored the entire story and their News Media program hosts were captured in public feed deciding not to say anything about it (during a commercial break).

Meanwhile, some folks in the US (e.g. Hugh Grant) are starting to speak up about being hacked and FBI/Congress are starting to ask questions about US operations.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201107100009
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7641IO20110706

I would take this story more seriously if left-wing news outlets like mediamatters didn't make the scandal look tabloid with their ridiculous oversensationalism of it.

A multi-billionaire using their money to bribe officials and manipulate the news?
Shocker!
George Soros does the same thing.
Murdock and Soros are both guilty of this type of nonsense, so why is everyone on the left acting so surprised that Murdock is doing this?

The truth in this matter is that the majority of the media outlets in the world are owned by a handfull of people.
That these people use their influence through the media to push their personal agendas should be no surprise.

This is why I gave up on ALL the major media sources years ago, and use independent/alternative media whenever possible.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

Murdock and Soros are both guilty of this type of nonsense, so why is everyone on the left acting so surprised that Murdock is doing this?

Because there's blood in the water, and the sharks are circling.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

I would take this story more seriously if left-wing news outlets like mediamatters didn't make the scandal look tabloid with their ridiculous oversensationalism of it.

A multi-billionaire using their money to bribe officials and manipulate the news?
Shocker!
George Soros does the same thing.
Murdock and Soros are both guilty of this type of nonsense, so why is everyone on the left acting so surprised that Murdock is doing this?

The truth in this matter is that the majority of the media outlets in the world are owned by a handfull of people.
That these people use their influence through the media to push their personal agendas should be no surprise.

This is why I gave up on ALL the major media sources years ago, and use independent/alternative media whenever possible.

Interesting that you assume everyone noticing this story is "on the left"... (never mind the mis-characterization of mediamatters)
The trans-national corporation stories about the abuses of people and communities aren't "left-right" though it is useful for that handful of people to manipulate it that way.

Besides the *story* is that illegal phone tapping is apparently standard practice for the Murdoch empire and Murdoch's special corporate culture may finally cost him.

[DonQuigleone]

In the UK, all the media outlets (left and right) are descending on the murdoch empire. About the only people who aren't are other tabloids...

As for the USA, I wouldn't view this as a left vs. right thing either. This scandal has the potential to really inflame conservatives, imagine how they'd feel if Fox News had wiretapped 9/11 victims? Not so Patriotic now are you?

[Ithekro]

My question would be...wiretapping for what? What purpose did all this serve? What was the point of it?

[flying ^]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

My question would be...wiretapping for what? What purpose did all this serve? What was the point of it?

for the murdered 13 year old girl... it's simple
... to get more messages. the mailbox was full and they listened to all of them so they deleted a few to get more EXCLUSIVE info for the story. EXCLUSIVE story = headlines = $$$

They (NoTW) also hacked the voicemail at Buckingham Palace. That's where they screwed up and Scotland Yard caught on. It was that investigation that led to the murder victim stuff.

[Ithekro]

Anyone remember when the news was about reporting information and events?

And no I don't mean the time before sensationalism, because that has been around since before radio was invented.

That time probably never existed, since even in old movies they refer to some newspapers as "rags", probably unfit to burn in a fireplace.

[DonQuigleone]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

My question would be...wiretapping for what? What purpose did all this serve? What was the point of it?

Scoops.

Information is power.

[flying ^]

Originally Posted by Vexx

http://mediamatters.org

Media Matters for America is organized as a tax exempt 501(c)3 organization. Under IRS guidelines, they must abide by several rules to maintain this status. Specifically, 501(c)3 organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.

i'm going to forward this form so they too can be investigated!

that site nothing more than left wing hit machine, that has abused it tax free status and should loose it!

the type of work they do IS NOT deserving of a tax exempt status!

[justinstrife]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13709293

Spoiler:

By Chris Summers BBC News

Shell has unveiled plans to build the world's first floating liquefied natural gas (FLNG) platform. The 600,000-tonne behemoth - the world's biggest "ship" - will be sited off the coast of Australia. But how will it work?
FLNG project in figures

Deep beneath the world's oceans are huge reservoirs of natural gas. Some are hundreds or thousands of miles from land, or from the nearest pipeline.

Tapping into these "stranded gas" resources has been impossible - until now.

At Samsung Heavy Industries' shipyard on Geoje Island in South Korea, work is about to start on a "ship" that, when finished and fully loaded, will weigh 600,000 tonnes.

That is six times as much as the biggest US aircraft carrier.

By 2017 the vessel should be anchored off the north coast of Australia, where it will be used to harvest natural gas from Shell's Prelude field.

Once the gas is on board, it will be cooled it until it liquefies, and stored in vast tanks at -161C.

Every six or seven days a huge tanker will dock beside the platform and load up enough fuel to heat a city the size of London for a week.

The tankers will then sail to Japan, China, Korea or Thailand to offload their cargo.

"The traditional way of producing gas offshore was through pipelines. You brought gas up to a platform and piped it to the 'beach'. That is the way it's done in the North Sea," said Scotsman Neil Gilmour, Shell's general manager for FLNG.
'Cyclone alley'

But the Prelude gas field is 200km (124 miles) from Western Australia's Kimberley Coast and there are no pipelines there to be used.
Volume comparison of LNG

Johan Hedstrom, an energy analyst in Australia with Southern Cross Equities, told the BBC: "The FLNG concept is an elegant solution because you don't need so much fixed infrastructure.

"You don't need the pipeline or the onshore refinery and when you run out of gas you can just pull up stumps and go to the next field."

Mr Gilmour said Shell had to overcome a "raft of technical challenges", ensuring for example that the vast amount of equipment on board would work in choppy seas.

The Prelude field is in the middle of what is known as "cyclone alley", an area prone to extremely stormy weather.

But Mr Gilmour said the vessel had been built to withstand category-five cyclones and even a "one-in-10,000-years' storm" producing 300km/h (185mph) gusts and 20m-high (65ft) waves.

The double-hulled vessel is designed to last 50 years.

When the Prelude field is exhausted, in 25 years' time, it will be completely refurbished and packed off to start work on another field off the coast of Australia, Angola, Venezuela or wherever.
Picture of a giant liquefied natural gas tanker A liquefied-natural-gas ship tanker arrives at a gas storage station in Japan

Mr Hedstrom said: "FLNG is a neat way of going forward. The way that energy prices are going it does look like a good industry to be in and I think they could make a lot of money out of it."

The price of LNG has risen markedly as demand has increased.

LNG currently sells for $14 per one million British thermal units in Japan, where the price was boosted by the tsunami, which cut the production of nuclear power.

The project, estimated to cost between $8bn (£5bn) and $15bn (£9.5bn), could provide 3.6 million tonnes of gas a year.
Flaring off

Nick Campbell, an energy analyst with Inenco, said Shell's move into FLNG was a "smart move".


"Shell are positioning themselves in an emerging market, not just in China - where gas usage has increased by 20% - but in India, which is also increasing its demand," he said.

The project is expected to generate 12 billion Australian dollars (£8bn) in tax revenues for the Australian federal government and could benefit their trade balance by 18 billion Australian dollars over the life of Prelude.

Australia's Minister for Resources and Energy has welcomed the Prelude project, drawing attention to the reduced environmental footprint as compared with a land-based scheme.

But there has been opposition from environmentalists. Martin Pritchard from Environs Kimberley says he is concerned about the potential for "oil leaks and spills".

WWF Western Australia, meanwhile, argues that the underwater wellheads and pipelines will harm the tropical marine environment, and estimates the project will emit more than two million tonnes of greenhouse gases per year.
The Kimberley Coast in Western Australia The Prelude field is 200km from the spectacularly beautiful Kimberley Coast

The gas raised from the seabed is purified during the process of liquefaction, and waste products will be flared off. This week the Australian government said it would tax carbon emissions from major polluters at A$23 (£15) per tonne.

But Mr Gilmour says the Prelude project could be the first of several. Shell has already identified the Sunrise gas field in the Timor Sea as having potential for FLNG.

The ship, whose first section will be laid in 2012, has no name. Shell normally refers to it merely as a "facility".

"There are only four or five dry docks globally which could have built this facility and there are certainly no yards in the UK large enough," says Mr Gilmour.

He has been to Geoje Island and, speaking in a broad Ayrshire accent, he said of Samsung's yard: "It's an extraordinary place.

"It's just a phenomenal yard. Samsung is very hi-tech, world class. There are going to be some very spectacular images coming out of there during the building process."

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by Solace

Because there's blood money in the water, and the loan sharks are circling.

Fixed for better.

Bottoms up for Murdoch's credit worthiness in his advert space.

Originally Posted by Ithekro

My question would be...wiretapping for what? What purpose did all this serve? What was the point of it?

To make their ad space more noticed with a larger readership, thus commanding a higher premium for ads.

[ganbaru]

Venezuela's Chavez to go to Cuba for chemotherapy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76E6TI20110716
Someone could explain to me why he don't stay in Venezuela for taking his treatement ?

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Solace

Because there's blood in the water, and the sharks are circling.

I understand that Solace, which is why I didn't criticize the Reuters article.
Because that one wasn't as over-the-top as the mediamorons one.

Originally Posted by Vexx

Interesting that you assume everyone noticing this story is "on the left"... (never mind the mis-characterization of mediamatters)

I didn't say that Vexx.
I said: I would take this story more seriously if left-wing news outlets like mediamatters didn't make the scandal look tabloid with their ridiculous oversensationalism of it.

Most media outlets are damning Murdock to hell over this idiocy, and rightfully so.
However, that said, for mediamatters to start attacking Sly-as-a-Fox news for not reporting it is essentially the pot-calling-the-kettle-black since they don't report on George Soros' shady dealings in the media world.

If they did I'd take them seriously, but since they're one sided I see them as no different then FauxNews.

Besides the *story* is that illegal phone tapping is apparently standard practice for the Murdoch empire and Murdoch's special corporate culture may finally cost him.

Mediamorons is using the story to attack FoxNews and nothing more.
FauxNews would do the same thing to Mediamatters is Soros were the one in trouble for the same thing.
They're two-sides of the same corrupt corporate coin.

[MrTerrorist]

Originally Posted by justinstrife

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13709293

Spoiler:

By Chris Summers BBC News

Shell has unveiled plans to build the world's first floating liquefied natural gas (FLNG) platform. The 600,000-tonne behemoth - the world's biggest "ship" - will be sited off the coast of Australia. But how will it work?
FLNG project in figures

Deep beneath the world's oceans are huge reservoirs of natural gas. Some are hundreds or thousands of miles from land, or from the nearest pipeline.

Tapping into these "stranded gas" resources has been impossible - until now.

At Samsung Heavy Industries' shipyard on Geoje Island in South Korea, work is about to start on a "ship" that, when finished and fully loaded, will weigh 600,000 tonnes.

That is six times as much as the biggest US aircraft carrier.

By 2017 the vessel should be anchored off the north coast of Australia, where it will be used to harvest natural gas from Shell's Prelude field.

Once the gas is on board, it will be cooled it until it liquefies, and stored in vast tanks at -161C.

Every six or seven days a huge tanker will dock beside the platform and load up enough fuel to heat a city the size of London for a week.

The tankers will then sail to Japan, China, Korea or Thailand to offload their cargo.

"The traditional way of producing gas offshore was through pipelines. You brought gas up to a platform and piped it to the 'beach'. That is the way it's done in the North Sea," said Scotsman Neil Gilmour, Shell's general manager for FLNG.
'Cyclone alley'

But the Prelude gas field is 200km (124 miles) from Western Australia's Kimberley Coast and there are no pipelines there to be used.
Volume comparison of LNG

Johan Hedstrom, an energy analyst in Australia with Southern Cross Equities, told the BBC: "The FLNG concept is an elegant solution because you don't need so much fixed infrastructure.

"You don't need the pipeline or the onshore refinery and when you run out of gas you can just pull up stumps and go to the next field."

Mr Gilmour said Shell had to overcome a "raft of technical challenges", ensuring for example that the vast amount of equipment on board would work in choppy seas.

The Prelude field is in the middle of what is known as "cyclone alley", an area prone to extremely stormy weather.

But Mr Gilmour said the vessel had been built to withstand category-five cyclones and even a "one-in-10,000-years' storm" producing 300km/h (185mph) gusts and 20m-high (65ft) waves.

The double-hulled vessel is designed to last 50 years.

When the Prelude field is exhausted, in 25 years' time, it will be completely refurbished and packed off to start work on another field off the coast of Australia, Angola, Venezuela or wherever.
Picture of a giant liquefied natural gas tanker A liquefied-natural-gas ship tanker arrives at a gas storage station in Japan

Mr Hedstrom said: "FLNG is a neat way of going forward. The way that energy prices are going it does look like a good industry to be in and I think they could make a lot of money out of it."

The price of LNG has risen markedly as demand has increased.

LNG currently sells for $14 per one million British thermal units in Japan, where the price was boosted by the tsunami, which cut the production of nuclear power.

The project, estimated to cost between $8bn (£5bn) and $15bn (£9.5bn), could provide 3.6 million tonnes of gas a year.
Flaring off

Nick Campbell, an energy analyst with Inenco, said Shell's move into FLNG was a "smart move".


"Shell are positioning themselves in an emerging market, not just in China - where gas usage has increased by 20% - but in India, which is also increasing its demand," he said.

The project is expected to generate 12 billion Australian dollars (£8bn) in tax revenues for the Australian federal government and could benefit their trade balance by 18 billion Australian dollars over the life of Prelude.

Australia's Minister for Resources and Energy has welcomed the Prelude project, drawing attention to the reduced environmental footprint as compared with a land-based scheme.

But there has been opposition from environmentalists. Martin Pritchard from Environs Kimberley says he is concerned about the potential for "oil leaks and spills".

WWF Western Australia, meanwhile, argues that the underwater wellheads and pipelines will harm the tropical marine environment, and estimates the project will emit more than two million tonnes of greenhouse gases per year.
The Kimberley Coast in Western Australia The Prelude field is 200km from the spectacularly beautiful Kimberley Coast

The gas raised from the seabed is purified during the process of liquefaction, and waste products will be flared off. This week the Australian government said it would tax carbon emissions from major polluters at A$23 (£15) per tonne.

But Mr Gilmour says the Prelude project could be the first of several. Shell has already identified the Sunrise gas field in the Timor Sea as having potential for FLNG.

The ship, whose first section will be laid in 2012, has no name. Shell normally refers to it merely as a "facility".

"There are only four or five dry docks globally which could have built this facility and there are certainly no yards in the UK large enough," says Mr Gilmour.

He has been to Geoje Island and, speaking in a broad Ayrshire accent, he said of Samsung's yard: "It's an extraordinary place.

"It's just a phenomenal yard. Samsung is very hi-tech, world class. There are going to be some very spectacular images coming out of there during the building process."

Sorry, but that story has already been posted.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...26#post3691826