Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA Zwei! - Episode 10 [END] Discussion / Poll

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[jeroz]

Finally! I'd been waiting for that moment ever since the first announcement two years ago.

[GDB]

Amazing episode. Glad they announced the second half of 2wei. The last scene with Kuro was just lovely, too.

[The Green One]

Well part 2 is confirmed for 2015, doesn't say for when though.

[Random Wanderer]

Hmm... they removed some tsunderization between Illya and Kuro, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. It makes them feel closer without getting into as much awkward loli selfcest ship-teasing. Also included more anime-original slice-of-life scenes that reinforced their sisterlyness. Again, I think it worked fine.

[HandofFate]

Hate it when the antagonist does what Barret does and just walks off like that lol.

Was thinking shouldn't it be time for Kuro to get that curse mark removed already? But looks like it did get removed in between the ending credits.

Looks like next season is going to focus on Miyu.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by HandofFate

Was thinking shouldn't it be time for Kuro to get that curse mark removed already? But looks like it did get removed in between the ending credits.

It's not gone. If it's missing, it's just an animation error.

Also, loved the bath scene when Ruby just floats out of the tub and behind Kuro to block her butt for the inevitable uncensored BD.

[Wandering Soul]

Well that was a great episode. They managed to fend off Bazett and put her in situation where she has to temporarily abandon her mission. Loved the scenes afterwards that really make Kuro feel like she has the life she always wanted. I also hope Luvia and Rin's relationship never changes

Although you have to wonder why Miyu wanted details when she learns Ilya slept with Kuro

Glad the announced part 2 is in production. Though now I really want to check out the manga so can someone tell what chapter they left out at?

[GDB]

It went up through the end of Chapter 16, as expected. So start with either 16.5 (side story) or 17 if you want to pick up the manga.

[FlareKnight]

Just goes to show how close this situation was. The best they could do was force this compromise. Still haven't actually resolved the situation. But in the end I have to agree they can treat this as a win. They are all alive and that's the key thing.

I'm certainly glad they tossed the "will continue in 2015" bit just to eliminate any doubt. Though kind of wish they could have just kept it going until they finished this second arc.

I did love how Rin and Luvia pulled off that pleasant on the surface moment while plotting against each other beneath it. That's quite the nutty "friendship" they've got going.

Think it might not be a bad idea to remove that cursed mark from Kuro before the 8th card or rematch against Bazette. At this point it's more of a hindrance to them since it just handicaps Kuro when they need her as an offensive force. But not surprised they didn't do it earlier since Rin and Luvia were still getting their heads around the idea that she wasn't a threat any longer.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by GDB

It went up through the end of Chapter 16, as expected. So start with either 16.5 (side story) or 17 if you want to pick up the manga.

Okay thanks

[MCAL]

I quite liked how the Bazette fight ended. It would have been a serious suspension of disbelief if Illya could actually defeat Bazette, so with a little teamwork (Guess Rin and Luvia weren't completely useless after all) they at least got Bazette to back down, although I'm sure she'll find a way to undo Rin's curse seal very soon.

As for the eight card, it could really only be Gilgamesh. Don't see it being anyone else.

Now the wait for the second part begins. Winter 2015 would be nice. That way we get a years worth of Fate material.

[HandofFate]

With Bazette as a character, and the mystery surrounding Miyu. Couldn't it be Avenger?

[Metaneo]

Originally Posted by MCAL

I quite liked how the Bazette fight ended. It would have been a serious suspension of disbelief if Illya could actually defeat Bazette, so with a little teamwork (Guess Rin and Luvia weren't completely useless after all) they at least got Bazette to back down, although I'm sure she'll find a way to undo Rin's curse seal very soon.

As for the eight card, it could really only be Gilgamesh. Don't see it being anyone else.

Now the wait for the second part begins. Winter 2015 would be nice. That way we get a years worth of Fate material.

I would think so since he's the only one they haven't fought yet, aside from

Spoiler for Spoiler for Fate/Stay Night:

The False Assassin created by Caster

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Metaneo

I would think so since he's the only one they haven't fought yet, aside from

Spoiler for Spoiler for Fate/Stay Night:

The False Assassin created by Caster

Spoiler for Response:

Actually, they haven't fought True Assassin yet, either--the Assassin they did face off against was Fate/zero's Hundred-Faced Hassan. So that's four possibilities: Gilgamesh, Sasaki Kojirou, Hassan-i-Sabbah #5, and Avenger.

[FlareKnight]

Also, did Rin just admit that the whole 'death' threat for this curse was a complete lie? Did that just apply to Bazette or also Kuro?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Also, did Rin just admit that the whole 'death' threat for this curse was a complete lie? Did that just apply to Bazette or also Kuro?

That's never entirely clear. They didn't perform the full ritual with Bazette, so I'd like to think that's why there's a difference, but it's possible they were bluffing the whole time with Kuro as well.

[GDB]

In the manga, it felt like it was just Bazette, but here it felt like both. Granted, that chapter had some very bad wording and such, so I'd trust the anime on this more than the manga translations. Specifically, the manga read like it wasn't even the same curse at all.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by GDB

In the manga, it felt like it was just Bazette, but here it felt like both. Granted, that chapter had some very bad wording and such, so I'd trust the anime on this more than the manga translations. Specifically, the manga read like it wasn't even the same curse at all.

The impression the manga's wording gave me was that it was supposed to look like the same curse, and Rin wanted Bazett to think it was, but that Rin hadn't exactly had time to set up the full curse in the middle of Bazett's attack, and so she'd had to fake it.

I'm not entirely certain about the anime's translations either, but I'll admit that the wording in the manga around there needed some work. It doesn't really matter, since

Spoiler for totally not a spoiler:

Illya isn't going to die, and thus that element of the curse never gets tested.

[FlareKnight]

I'm honestly not sure whether it is just a weaker curse or not. Since Bazette only said she felt a dull pain in her stomach instead of actually feeling like she got hit by a truck. That would make me think initially that it was the weaker curse. Though possible that the current pain for Illya had lowered to a level where it was only a dull pain. Ruby was working to heal her for a while there after all.

And even if the curse was weaker it's possible the death thing was a total bluff from the beginning. No easy way to call it especially when you are sharing pain. It's a great bluff really.

Some nice moments anyways near the end. Could get a good laugh from Miyu wanting details about Kuro and Illya. Kind of surprising that it just seemed extreme curiosity instead of being accusatory. Also good for Kuro to have Illya around. Illya can really bring the mood back up and help with not worrying so much about the future. Even though they have plenty to worry about right now.