[Manga] Chapter 508 Discussion

[Cub-Sama]

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

Sakura is an exception, she is one of the main characters like Sasuke, so they'll be in the main story until the end of the manga. Even is Sakura-haters don't like that

But shes already been reduced to doing what everyone else that isn't an Uchiha, Naruto, Kage or a villain does.

Sitting on the sidelines crying out for Naruto.

[DeDe]

Tenten and Temari aren't fangirls. Irrelevant and mostly forgotten? Yes, but not fangirls. If Kishi actually remembers Temari had a developing and interesting equal partner relationship with Shikamaru. Rare for this manga with its silly one sided shonen love. Tenten fangirled Sasuke once and got over it. Now she just takes up oxygen on Gai's team.

A fangirl is a character who only exists to worship her chosen love. Even Sakura rises above this sometimes. Ino, Karin, Hinata and Shiho are Kishi's fangirls,

And the Mizukage isn't a fangirl. She is a cougar.

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

But shes already been reduced to doing what everyone else that isn't an Uchiha, Naruto, Kage or a villain does.

Sitting on the sidelines crying out for Naruto.

Didn't you see her doing all that shit recently? Even if her actions are useless she is still there in the main plot. She drugged her comrades, tried to kill Sasuke, lied to everybody, had a serious argument with Naruto, etc. She is "the woman" of this story, that's her role even if she had a great fight against Sasori.

[Bari_Phillis]

Whenever sakura appears in the manga all I can help to think is "silly woman." This isn't because I hate woman or am sexist or anything (because I am not, I respect women extremely), but this is how kishimoto has inherently made her. Sasori was a while ago and, let's be honest, she's pretty much only good for being a doctor now a days-which is important, but does not help the main story at all.

I wanna see hinata kill her just to get her out of the way at this point

[Alchemist007]

That'd be kinda OOC for Hinata

[Frenchie]

Originally Posted by JustRob

Well, not that I thought they were even slightly interesting, I just find it odd that characters just disappear like that. At least tell us something like "They've been captured" or "They've been killed".

What are you talking about, this isn't Bleach, we were shown that Juugo and Suigetsu were captured by the bald samurai guy with the dragon tatoo. In the land of Iron. As for Karin, she's in Konoha's custody.

[JustRob]

All we saw is Juugo and Suigetsu disguising themselves as stormtroopers and getting caught. What kind of conclusion is that? Their fate is still uncertain. Were they put to death? Were they interrogated? Did they escape?

[Frenchie]

Originally Posted by JustRob

All we saw is Juugo and Suigetsu disguising themselves as stormtroopers and getting caught. What kind of conclusion is that? Their fate is still uncertain. Were they put to death? Were they interrogated? Did they escape?

Why would they be put to death? They're enemies and they have info. And honestly, I don't care enough about them to want to know what's happened to them since then. You were saying it was a loose end, but it isn't. A loose end would imply that they are still involved in the plot somehow. They were captured by a samurai (He's not even a ninja, and in a world that is centered around them, that's nothing short of an insult).

With Sasuke ditching both of them and Karin, team Taka and its members have become irrelevant. Ie why do you even care?

[Hunter]

They have been captured about 35 chapters ago, it's not that long for side characters whose importance was based on their relation to Sasuke.
Their capture wasn't the conclusion of their characters, just the last time we heard about them because there have been more important matter at hand.

[LadyKikyo91]

Originally Posted by kitten320

I also don't think that she will die but after so many negative feelings, it kinda rubbed on me.

And yeh, it is Kubo's and Yagi's job to kill off someone like that out of nowhere.

Oh really. Were these last few chapters not an example of that. Kisame was gone for almost as long as Konan then he gets brought up and killed. Damn even Kubo Aizen loving ass isn't that bad.

[Haak]

I'd say Orochimaru is an even better example. Poor guy didn't even last a chapter.

[Slayerx]

Originally Posted by El_Frenchie

Why would they be put to death? They're enemies and they have info. And honestly, I don't care enough about them to want to know what's happened to them since then. You were saying it was a loose end, but it isn't. A loose end would imply that they are still involved in the plot somehow. They were captured by a samurai (He's not even a ninja, and in a world that is centered around them, that's nothing short of an insult).

Were they captured? i mean just because the samurai found them doesn't mean they could not fight them off; hell the samurai come off as nothing more than cannon fodder. Could the two of them not resist? Wouldn't there be a chance they might either die or escape in the battle? If they were captured and pumped for information, don't you think we should hear what the Iron country had learned about their enemies... at the very least we should get some comment on it... Hell wouldn't madara want to keep them from talking just like Karin? wouldn't he maybe want to make sure they "mysteriously" died in their cells?

This is why people call it a loose end, because it was not at all conclusive since their are many things that could have happened after they were found.

[Frenchie]

Originally Posted by Slayerx

Were they captured? i mean just because the samurai found them doesn't mean they could not fight them off; hell the samurai come off as nothing more than cannon fodder. Could the two of them not resist? Wouldn't there be a chance they might either die or escape in the battle? If they were captured and pumped for information, don't you think we should hear what the Iron country had learned about their enemies... at the very least we should get some comment on it... Hell wouldn't madara want to keep them from talking just like Karin? wouldn't he maybe want to make sure they "mysteriously" died in their cells?

This is why people call it a loose end, because it was not at all conclusive since their are many things that could have happened after they were found.

I agree that the situation wasn't extremely clear, but both Juugo and Suigetsu were coming out of a difficult fight. They were surrounded, and by god, the samurai have wireless comms. I'm pretty sure that Sasuke's associates, after the ruckus they caused, wouldn't be allowed by the summit to just fight their way through and escape. Now -that- would be a plothole.

As Hunter said, Suigetsu and Juugo are hardly important. Currently, there are bigger things happening in the ninja world and I'm happy that Kishi is focusing on that rather than cater to the few Taka fans.

@kitten, yeah Yagi did kind of screw me over by killing Miria. I mean what the hell.

[Sabaku Kyu]

I actually find Team Taka a lot more interesting now that they're out from underneath Sasuke's skirts. What made them so unappealing was the fact that their only purpose seemed to be as tools for Sasuke. At least now they have opportunity for different roles even if they continue to be very minor characters.

I want to see what happens to Juugo and Suigetsu...eventually. There's no rush really.

There's Konan vs. Madara for starters, after that it should be about time to see what kind of trouble Sasuke's brewin'. Maybe after that I wouldn't mind a glimpse of Team Taka.

[solidguy]

Originally Posted by Slayerx

Were they captured? i mean just because the samurai found them doesn't mean they could not fight them off; hell the samurai come off as nothing more than cannon fodder. Could the two of them not resist? Wouldn't there be a chance they might either die or escape in the battle? If they were captured and pumped for information, don't you think we should hear what the Iron country had learned about their enemies... at the very least we should get some comment on it... Hell wouldn't madara want to keep them from talking just like Karin? wouldn't he maybe want to make sure they "mysteriously" died in their cells?

This is why people call it a loose end, because it was not at all conclusive since their are many things that could have happened after they were found.

Its kinda how kishi leaves things. Like with dozu and hidate way back. He doesnt confirm things. Im not saying theyre dead, just saying it wouldnt surprise me.

[Nite-Wing]

Well we finally get to see an uchiha again
Call me interested Kishi

[Ulquiorra]

Originally Posted by Slayerx

Were they captured? i mean just because the samurai found them doesn't mean they could not fight them off; hell the samurai come off as nothing more than cannon fodder. Could the two of them not resist? Wouldn't there be a chance they might either die or escape in the battle? If they were captured and pumped for information, don't you think we should hear what the Iron country had learned about their enemies... at the very least we should get some comment on it... Hell wouldn't madara want to keep them from talking just like Karin? wouldn't he maybe want to make sure they "mysteriously" died in their cells?

This is why people call it a loose end, because it was not at all conclusive since their are many things that could have happened after they were found.

Mifune went with Okisuke to the second Kage summit. The very badass looking Okisuke was the one who actually captured Juugo and Suigetsu. So it is safe to assume he pwned them. He is likely a lot stronger than either of those two punks put together. And the samurai were probably more than enough to handle them anyway.

If Kishimoto actually cared about them as characters, then he might of wrote about their further adventures. But he didn't because there are far more important things than the fate of two meaningless side characters to deal with. So we can conclude nothing happened and they are rotting in jail. As hunter pointed out, 35 plus chapters isn't a long time for Kishi to forget about fodder anyway. If he forgets for like 200 chapters, then maybe we could wonder what was their fate.

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

There's Konan vs. Madara for starters, after that it should be about time to see what kind of trouble Sasuke's brewin'. Maybe after that I wouldn't mind a glimpse of Team Taka.

The original 15 genin deserve screentime long before those guys. Yes even Tenten!

In this manga the Konoha 11 + Sand Siblings >>>>>>> over fodder characters we barely know from Taka. We already saw enough of their abilities. And we only saw them at all because of Sasuke. Now that he dumped them, it's like who cares? They are not part of Naruto's core cast. Karin crushing on Naruto or revealing some major info on Sasuke is the only thing to make anyone from Taka still relevant.

[Shiryuu]

Hmm, just reread it again. Is it just a weird translation or is Madara referring to Konan as Nagato?

[james0246]

Chapter 509 thread open...though there is no spoiler just yet...