Log Horizon S2 - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[Benigmatica]

Spoiler for Episode 4:

Wow, looks like Soujirou ain't happy seeing Kyouko getting killed by Enheart Nelreth!

On the other hand, I like how both Akatsuki and Raynesia casting their doubts on themselves while putting up a brave face. And apart from having to wear Christmas-themed costumes, it shows the anxiety of both characters.

[Kafriel]

Good episode, although it had a bit too much sulking for my taste...oh well, Kyouko was awesome and Soujiro is bound to get even more awesome next week

[aohige]

Unfortunately they greatly lowered the impact of the stabbing from the book, which was pretty shocking, but i didn't figure they'll show it on NHK anyways.

The bleeding may confuse some people though, as in "why is she bleeding and dying, isn't she supposed to disappear in rainbow colored sparkles?"

[Kafriel]

As an AO viewer, I assume his weapon applies on-hit debuffs with a set proc chance, in this case profuse bleeding and...dizzness? Some kind of poison/paralysis effect? Unless that's from the blood loss, which wasn't that much. It's not too surprising that she took a hit though, LV90+ characters have five-digit HP.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by aohige

Unfortunately they greatly lowered the impact of the stabbing from the book, which was pretty shocking, but i didn't figure they'll show it on NHK anyways.

The bleeding may confuse some people though, as in "why is she bleeding and dying, isn't she supposed to disappear in rainbow colored sparkles?"

yea to me it seem like a slight discrepancy in the animation's lore but I guess DEEN couldn't help it since they haven't shown any real blood loss since...Higurashi no Naku Koro ni?

Then again I alway felt that season one over-censored things. In the novel you didn't burst into bubble of sparkles, you bled like you would in real life.

[blakstealth]

Man, that was a boring episode. Never was an Akatsuki fan, so watching her be more gloomy was not fun for me.

[FlareKnight]

It's a little too bad that nothing really progressed on the Akatsuki side of things. Just adding onto what you could already tell she was dealing with. Bit surprised Nyanta didn't say anything about what was going on, but probably figured Shiroe had enough on his plate already with this stressful raid. Guess Shiroe as well could at least pick up that Akatsuki wasn't going to be fully satisfied with what he'd left her behind to do.

Surprise attack at the end there. Guess we'll get to see the harem leader unleash some anger. Don't mess with his ladies .

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by aohige

Unfortunately they greatly lowered the impact of the stabbing from the book, which was pretty shocking, but i didn't figure they'll show it on NHK anyways.

The bleeding may confuse some people though, as in "why is she bleeding and dying, isn't she supposed to disappear in rainbow colored sparkles?"

Tis' no longer a game!

Spoiler for As usual, just in case:

But tbh I'm surprised blood even made to the adaptation considering how this channel is supposed to be a bit more family-friendly. I guess it's a compromise on NHK's part in return for reducing the number of times our assailant ran his hard shiny thing into Kyouko.

Huh? What? Hard shiny thing? I'm talking about his katana of course.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Surprise attack at the end there. Guess we'll get to see the harem leader unleash some anger. Don't mess with his ladies .

especially the ones that can't come back to life. People die when they are killed after all...

[HandofFate]

Yea, the blood is confusing me.
I was thinking 'uh oh, its SAO time now' with a hax character being able to kill adventurers dead now.

I liked this episode, probably the best so far this season imo.
The raiding episodes was okay, but it wasn't really anything special, just scenes of due process.

Looking forward to the people left in town solving the problem on their own without Shiroe to command things.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by HandofFate

being able to kill adventurers dead now.

Yea about that...that will be explained...

[Soraya21]

Though it kinda sucked that they cut away the focus from the raid, it's still nice to see what the other characters are doing in the meantime. An enjoyable episode, if not a bit slower paced.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

especially the ones that can't come back to life. People die when they are killed after all...

Beg pardon? When has that happened?

[Hmm....]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Beg pardon? When has that happened?

I guess one can interpret that way as well. From the end of episode, Kyoko just lie there in the pool of her blood instead of turning in to sparkling particle as usual. We will see in next episode if she is indeed respawn or not.

[Random Wanderer]

She'll be fine. The episode 1 spoilers show Akatsuki fighting this guy, Akatsuki having died, and the OP shows her bleeding on the ground like Kyoko. Yet I highly doubt she'll be perma-dead.

[Sheba]

The choice of toning down the violence in S1 is being paid dearly since that bit in this episode is confusing anime-only viewers.

[Hiss13]

Blood from the Adventurers? WTH?
So Kyouko is dead for real?
Dayum....

[Eclipze]

Originally Posted by aohige

Unfortunately they greatly lowered the impact of the stabbing from the book, which was pretty shocking, but i didn't figure they'll show it on NHK anyways.

The bleeding may confuse some people though, as in "why is she bleeding and dying, isn't she supposed to disappear in rainbow colored sparkles?"

Originally Posted by Sheba

The choice of toning down the violence in S1 is being paid dearly since that bit in this episode is confusing anime-only viewers.

So basically bleeding is actually a thing in LH but was removed from S1 due to censoring?

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Eclipze

So basically bleeding is actually a thing in LH but was removed from S1 due to censoring?

Book readers kept repeating that violence and some darker things were toned down because the anime was airing on NHK-E.