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I'll probably end up watching it anyways. Words can't describe how sad I felt all day long today.
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2010-08-25, 17:38 | Link #62 |
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Last statement. Backup post. This is his last statement before he passed away, due to the unstable nature of the website because of massive inflow, you might at times (depending on region) find yourself unable to access it; hence the 2nd link as a backup. Chinese translation is available by kinnsan at here. I cried reading this, especially this part by his mother on his bed, 「ごめんねぇ!丈夫に産んでやれなくて!」 "I'm sorry ... I wasn't able to give[/bless] you [with] good health when giving birth to you." My heart aches for this family at this very moment of this post. I have not watch his work. I don't know if he is a legend among animators. All I know is a great person passed away with all the love in his family as shown in this passage. This is enough for me to grief for them. I strongly urge anyone with the ability to read Japanese or Chinese to take a look at the links. RIP. I apologize that I can't translate this into English as I really am not comfortable doing it at this moment nor I have enough confidence in my mastery of the English language. Last edited by Kunagisa; 2010-08-25 at 17:50. |
2010-08-25, 18:16 | Link #63 | |
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1. Cancer cells mutate to the point they lose programmed cell death and controlled reproduction, thus becoming effectively immortal and reproduce without any control mechanism. 2. Cancer cells lose adhesive properties to other cells - cell-cell adhesion (collagen and elastin) is pretty important for communication between cells and keeping things in order. 3. Cancer cells develop the ability to produce metallo-proteases - enzymes that will literally eat through your muscle and blood vessel walls. They will then develop vessels into the bloodstream, allowing the cancer to have food supply and grow. You're in trouble already if you're at this stage. Not fatal, but this means cancer cells have also developed the ability to get into your bloodstream. Preventing cancer re-occuring at this point becomes freaking hard. 4. Metastasis - The killer part. Cancer cells develop motor skills. I.e. They are able to move about with their own free will to any other part fo the body. Once you reach this point, you're screwed. It is inevitable that even if you removed the original source of the cancer, it's spread through your body. 5. Receptor mutation. The metastatised cells develop receptor mutations to bind to other cells in the body. You will lose a dying battle here. Kon was at part 4 - metastasis. This is the fatal part. He was doomed. Couple that with the fact that there is no truly effective treatment for pancreatic cancer available yet - on top of being one of the most painful - horiffic. But to think it metastatised to his bones as well - freaking hell. Bone cancer is about next in line in severity after pancreatic - flock. No person deserves such a triple whammy, especially him. Two other famous cases of people being struck down by pancreatic cancer are Patrick Swayze and Bill Hicks. Swayze (starred in Dirty Dancing, Ghosts and Point Blank) was diagnosed with the condition in January 2008. In January 2009 he still looked reasonably healthy and thought he was winning the battle. Then he gradually fell apart physically and passed away in September 2009, aged 57. Hicks (revolutionary comedian/philosopher) learnt of his ailment in April 1993 and also had it spread to his liver. February 1994 he was gone at the age of 32. Tool and Radiohead were heavily influenced by his work. Ironically, the weather was absolute hell in Adelaide today. Fitting for the passing of a true legend. Local club pres approved of my idea to have a Kon-only night since we're pretty gutted by this around our parts. (Paranoia Agent was #1 in our annual poll in 2004) I'm probably going to do a marathon re-watch of Paranoia Agent this weekend.
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2010-08-25, 18:26 | Link #64 | |
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2010-08-25, 19:34 | Link #66 | |
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Seeing how Kon used the metaphor of dreams in all of his works, I wrote this little piece. It's still rough and it can probably be improved; if you want to do so, by all means do it. I'm not a master of the language, and it's been a while since I wrote something so seriously.
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2010-08-25, 19:40 | Link #67 |
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Such a sad day... His mother's statement is such a poignant and sad little thing, but bittersweet.
I'll probably never watch Millenium Actress the same way again... while Tokyo Godfathers will bring out a wider smile from me from now on. I'm often reminded of the fact that life is indeed short. I guess this event has inspired me and made me realize to get off my butt and not delay things any further. Time to roll up my sleeves. |
2010-08-25, 22:11 | Link #68 |
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Great piece, WanderingKnight.
Here's my thoughts: Whenever I was asked to name directors I truly admired and would defend to the bitter end, I would name three - Kon, Shinkai and Watanabe. Three directors that covered the spectrum of the magic that is anime. I would always put Kon at the front of those three because I came across him early in my days of walking the anime landscape. The master of the mindbend, the pyschological prophet, the dreamwalker. But you knew one important thing. You knew to separate the line between dreams and reality. You knew that blurring that line was to desecrate reality and oneself. To walk in the realm of dreams is a good thing, as long as one didn't do it at the expense of living a proper life. This was something you believed in strongly and it was apparent in all your works and interviews. Sadly, many didn't want to listen, or maybe they don't even know how to anymore because they have abandoned reality for their own fake dream. Perhaps if they did know how to listen, things would be better in the industry. You said two things in interviews that cut me to the core and left me in awe with how true they are. First one was 'The true horrors of the universe lie within humanity itself.' You didn't need the paranormal, monsters or demons to instill tension and thrills. You could do it with an everyday person that became extraordinary. Perfect Blue created them with such ease and shock. Paranoia Agent was such a tantalising mix of black humour, reality checks and illusions of the mind but hit its mark perfectly. And horrors emerged from seemingly normal people. Paprika showed the horrors within our own minds and the conseqeuence of them merging with reality. Yet within those horrors, you were still able to show the beauty in life and the resilience of humanity. The eternal, desperate hope of Millenium Actress, the unlikliest heroes in Tokyo Godfathers, the surreal beauty fo Paprika. You would take us on a trip and blow our minds away, then tap us on the shoulder and remind us to return to reality, lest we let our minds get lost within the world of dreams and became the horrors we dread. Secondly, the very apt line of 'The females in anime don't exist in reality.' How true that is. Some people could really use that advice. You've been kind to your female characters overall and you haven't shyed away from using women as your protagonists rather than the stock standard moe girl. You stuck to your beliefs, even if it meant that it wouldn't get you the money. You aimed for quality and to be different. Grace and forlorn longing in Millenium Actress, visceralness and salvation in Tokyo Godfathers, darkness and light in Paranoia Agent, sexy and intelligent in Paprika. And quite frankly, the dear doctor in Paprika had the finest breasts I've ever seen in anime. But you'd remind us that this was all fantasy in the mind and that women in reality are still the real thing and the best. You were one of the few that didn't need a moe girl to turn heads. And while moe is sometimes a good thing - in measured amounts - it shouldn't be the only type of female. You dared to bring something different to the table. Furthermore, you gave us adults. Thank you for that. But there is one thing that has concerned me greatly. It isn't the last minute revelation of your passing - that's part of your culture and fair enough. You had things you needed to attend to and you deserved time to yourself in your final months. What I don't get is that you were supposedly in poverty? Why...how is it that a genius like you, that pushed the envelope and was one of the industry's champions, was in financial hardship? Clearly your studio partners at Madhouse respect you, but from what I hear, they're in financial trouble too. Was it that the subsiduary owners gave you mere crumbs from the financial pie in your contract? Was your success and respect so undervalued by those paying you for your masterpieces that they were content to let you struggle? Even in your weakest moments? Kon - why is that? You were one of the greats. Yet you suffered - so much. And we didn't know until it was too late. When I think of Satoshi Kon, I will think of a man that dared to dream and aim for the stars, but kept his feet on the ground and cherished reality. He was able to find the highest of highs and lowest of lows within us mere humans. I will think of a guy who never made one dud title - he was always at the top of his game. And that is incredibly rare. Someone with a mix of twisted humour and enlightened optimism. Someone who enjoyed the anime medium and tried to inspire his viewers to aspire to be more than just the norm. We can take a lot out of what Satoshi Kon achieved in his short time on this planet. In closing, I have a few hopes. I hope that his wife is given the support she needs to carry on and afford to live a decent life. I hope his mother realises that while genetics weren't kind to Satoshi Kon, that she did humanity a great favour by gifting her son to planet Earth for 47 years. You needn't apologise to us, ma'am. It is us who should be thanking you. I hope that other stars of the industry needn't have to live tightly despite their success and that they get some long overdue reform for their rights within the industry. I hope that the industry realises that it needs to move forward and not rely on genres and styles that are becoming stagnant. And I hope that those who were followers of Satoshi Kon will make sure that others will know of the great work that he did. On a final note - it is rather eerie how similar Satoshi Kon and Bill Hicks were, to me anyway. Revolutionaries, masters of their field, never given the financial respect they deserved, stuck to their beliefs and strengths rather than cave into the demands of TV/sales, willing to say things as they really were, victims of pancreatic cancer (Edit: Just found out apparently Satoshi Kon smoked a lot - argh. Christ there's another thing in common him and Bill had!), died way too young. I reckon if Bill had lived to see Kon's work, he would have liked the man. I can somehow picture those two hanging out in the next life. Now I get what Tool said when they called Bill Hicks 'Another Dead Hero.' Sums up exactly how I feel about Satoshi Kon. Dead but not forgotten. Not by a long shot.
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2010-08-26, 04:47 | Link #71 |
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Satoshi Kon's last words were incredibly powerful. They brought tears to the eyes of a guy even as jaded as I am...
http://www.makikoitoh.com/journal/sa...ons-last-words (Here's a full English translation). |
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It won’t appear tomorrow, but I like his moon better. After the full moon begins to wane. But after fourteen nights, starting tomorrow, I hope to see it again. I gotta go. - Man of the Key, Millennium Actress.
I think this described the man perfectly.
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2010-08-26, 07:09 | Link #73 |
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Ironically, I did watch Millenium Actress after his death. I had the DVD right next to me and had to put it on. I sobbed. When I read his last words this morning I sobbed again. Watching that movie was a different experience from when I first watched it. I was able to feel somewhat better though. It sucks that he didn't finish the project he was working on but at least he was able to make these movies, and he sounds like he lived well before.
RIP Satoshi Kon. We lost a major talent in cinema. Last edited by velderia; 2010-08-26 at 07:22. |
2010-08-26, 07:19 | Link #74 |
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While he didn't actually finish the film he was currently worked on, it was nearing completion before his death, so despite the finishing touches not being done by him, it will essentially be HIS film.
Like I posted before, he was watching rushes of the film only some days ago before his death meaning that the film was about 80-90% done with most of the remaining work being editing and sound.
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2010-08-26, 07:44 | Link #76 |
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I was given a link towards the original Japanese text of his final public message, and while the greater majority of the contents passed over my head, the final line was too obvious not to notice:
じゃ、お先に The translations I saw translated this to literally "I'm leaving now" but IIRC, you use this the last three characters when you're trying to emphasize to people left in the place you're leaving that you're leaving before them, rather than simply leaving. I might be completely wrong about this, but this sort of changes the meaning of his farewell, because in this case he's literally telling people that he intends to go ahead before us, suggesting that he still intends to meet whoever he meant that letter for in the next life.
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2010-08-27, 02:17 | Link #79 |
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The Anime industry took a huge crushing blow with Satoshi's death. There are hardly any auteurs now and there were hardly any left to begin with. Satoshi was a genius. And he could quite easily have been one of the best animator/director in the world.
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