2014-08-24, 10:31 | Link #6341 | |
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Nothing can ever change for the better with her around. Like PM, she has to go for anything to get better. Probably wont be until the end though, or close to it. Not anytime soon for sure. |
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2014-08-24, 12:03 | Link #6344 | |
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Yes, I meant Night Raid (meaning I'm continuously making the mistake of typing "NG" over and over again. Sorry about that.). This is why you should refrain from typing posts in forums on a mobile device. Anyway, all I'm basically saying (just in case no one wants to read my long post) is that Night Raid are not saints (killing is bad, and they know it), but their actions and reasonings are a bit better and a bit more justifiable than the Jaegers. I also agreed with you that the Jaegers would be at the same level as Night Raid if they were part of the Revolution Army, But I'm currently focused on right now and the information and logic that we have right now; they are currently not part of the Army, and therefore, not as "good" as Night Raid, or, more appropriately, Night Raid is not as "evil" as the Jaegers. We all have every right to speculate, though. |
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2014-08-24, 12:35 | Link #6346 |
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I don't think there's a lot of hate (if anything, a large group of people here (not judging here) are pro-Esdeath (I personally don't completely like her for... reasons that I won't repeat again unless someone really wanted me to. Also, I said "I don't completely like her" not "I don't like her"; I like her to an extent of entertainment, and she's pretty, but outside of that, nope.).
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2014-08-24, 12:35 | Link #6347 | |
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I don't agree that any of the Jaeger members would fit into the Revolutionary army, besides Wave and Ran and even they're questionable. They both put their personal agendas above the greater good of the people. Not saying there aren't any, but we have no evidence to suggest that anyone in the revolutionary army is as blood thirsty, unstable or calloused as the majority of Jaegers. Schere keeps getting brought up, but hasn't shown to have loss any self-restraint from her loose screw like Justice Chan or Esdeath. Her aligned values with NR is above that. Akame was provoked to kill Tatsumi at the beginning yes, but she didn't. The difference between NR and Jaeger is that if Jaeger was there they wouldn't stopped until someone died. Seryuu, without the supervision of her superior would kill Tatsumi and report back with a lie that he was collateral damage, as she has stated so with one of her missions. Remember that NR are made of people who once belonged to the Imperial who sacrificed all they had to fight for what they believe is right. Has anyone in Jaeger done that? Bors keeps talking about his guilt, but has he made any conscious effort to change that? |
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2014-08-24, 12:41 | Link #6348 | |
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I also never stated that the Revolutionary Army has bloodthirsty people either; I was only saying that they are less evil then most, and basing it on the fact that we don't know the intentions of all of the members. We'll probably never know Schere's true agenda, so I was basically defaulting to her being "evil" (which was my mistake and I shouldn't have done that, since we don't know). You're completely right for the second-last part. But even though it wasn't right to begin with, she had no choice (and I believe that her having no choice aligns with your point (unless it really isn't, and if it's not, please explain)). I believe I mentioned that before, that many of the members defected to Night Raid because they no longer believed what the Empire was doing is correct. |
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2014-08-24, 12:44 | Link #6349 | |
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who are the RA? who runs it, 1 person or a committee? what are their actual goals are the empire overthrown? there are examples of in our own history where the people who overthrew a tyrannical government turn out to be no better. and the dividing of the spoils after the war is over has lead to even more atrocities. i won't be surprise if after overthrowing the Empire the 2nd half of the story would be fighting the new RA government.
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2014-08-24, 12:46 | Link #6350 | |
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2014-08-24, 12:49 | Link #6351 | |
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Everyone has the right to say what they want. Though, I didn't really appreciate the tone that you had. |
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2014-08-24, 12:50 | Link #6352 | ||
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I wouldn't doubt that for a second, and have the same thought as you on this. I just compartmentalize what I see as speculation (what you're doing) and what is the current situation based on current evidence. Right now, I'm looking at the current accusations. |
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2014-08-24, 12:54 | Link #6353 | |
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2014-08-24, 12:56 | Link #6354 | |
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The blood thirsty part may have been a bit harsh and I could have worded that differently; I didn't want to give the impression that I thought that you thought that I believed that the Revolutionary Army is blood thirsty. |
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2014-08-24, 12:57 | Link #6355 | |
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Only one who might be trouble is Seryuu as she might go one some maverick justice mission and disobey orders. RA CAN'T afford to be saint if they they wouldn't creat NR in first place. It doesn't they aren't in right, but they can't pick means and they wouldn't to back up their righteousness, even if it meant use Jeagers.
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2014-08-24, 12:58 | Link #6356 | |
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I call a spade a spade. |
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2014-08-24, 13:02 | Link #6357 | |
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war is hell, there is no justice in War just victory or defeat.
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2014-08-24, 13:03 | Link #6359 | |
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I was also little uncomfortable about the way you said it, but I don't really think you were trying to be mean, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I just think it could have been better worded. EDIT: What I just said probably wasn't the best way of putting it out. I changed a couple of words to better reflect what I was trying to say. Also, this is not the point; it's just the tone that I feel was a little extreme, not the implied meaning. Last edited by Junior117; 2014-08-24 at 13:38. |
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2014-08-24, 13:04 | Link #6360 | |
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Bols, Wave and Ran all know that the Imperial is corrupt (Wave has at least enough awareness to questoin), but they each have their own agendas to worry about family, revenge, debt etc. The people come last. Seryuu - Nuts Esdeath - DGAF Kurome - Gimme Drugs Dr Stylish - DGAF |
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action, blood and gore, crazy author, dead protagonist, death, edgy, fantasy, happiness?, revolution, sadistic author, shounen, tragedy, we're all gonna die! |
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