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[Demi.]

Oh sure, it may result in a world war, or even a war exclusively targeting the United States, but unless a coup were to happen; firing nukes does not break any sort of national law. Considering it's NK he may even have enough justification to avoid the repercussions of international law.

The most problematic issue is that the affected region would include our frenemy China, our rival Russia, and our allies Japan and South Korea. The fish many nations around the Pacific Rim rely on for food would be killed or contaminated. Tens of millions will be poisoned or sickened, and even several generations down the line, there will be numerous birth defects and cases of aggressive cancers as lower intensity fallout takes its toll.

However, these consequences may be overlooked by someone touted to be even more idiotic and insane(by you) than that brother slaying madman.

Alternatively, he can just continue what presidents have done before him, and meet his blood quota by starting and continuing wars with third world countries. Easy battles, little repercussion, and (relatively) soldier friendly.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Demi.

Oh sure, it may result in a world war, or even a war exclusively targeting the United States, but unless a coup were to happen; firing nukes does not break any sort of national law. If his target were to be NK, he may even have enough justification to avoid the repercussions of international law.

The most problematic issue is that the affected region would include our frenemy China, our rival Russia, and our allies Japan and South Korea. The fish many nations around the Pacific Rim rely on for food would be killed or contaminated. Tens of millions will be poisoned or sickened, and even several generations down the line, there will be numerous birth defects and cases of aggressive cancers as lower intensity fallout takes its toll.

However, these consequences may be overlooked by someone touted to be even more idiotic and insane than that brother slaying madman.

Alternatively, he can just continue what presidents have done before him, and meet his blood quota by starting and continuing wars with third world countries. Easy battles, little repercussion, and (relatively) soldier friendly.

while not breaking any national rules, it could make the 60 to 80% of USa population turn against him and he get not only impeached but also be jailed and get death sentence or something like that, again even if the rules don't say he cant this don't means which the currently peoples gonna act like what he did was fine and acceptable specially since none war was started yet, that is why neither trump and kim "pressed" the buttom yet" both of them know the consequences and how dangerous can be being the one to press the buttom" and they are making that "chicken run play" against each other to force the other side be the one to "start".(ofcourse for kim is a little more easy since almost 100% of his nation is brainwashed to accetp all of the kim actions, while trump only around 20% are.

[The Green One]

Trump can't just push the "Big Red Button" anytime he wants and not expect any consequences. If he does just one sidedly nuke North Korea on his own without them firing first, he would no doubt have some very intense inquiries to answer that he would have to have some damn good answers for.

[SeijiSensei]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

pretty much the only reason he not did it yet is just because he "don't have the power" to do and be free,

I'm hardly a fan of Donald Trump's, but he didn't kill his half-brother with nerve gas or shoot anti-aircraft weapons at his uncle and other political opponents. Trump isn't ruthless the same way Kim is, nor is the American military as servile as Kim's.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

I'm hardly a fan of Donald Trump's, but he didn't kill his half-brother with nerve gas or shoot anti-aircraft weapons at his uncle and other political opponents. Trump isn't ruthless the same way Kim is, nor is the American military as servile as Kim's.

again is important take in account the fact which trump live in a democracy, with rules which can punish him for any bad behaviour he is not the supreme leader neither his family is the only one to go in power, kim only do what he do because he live in a country where peoples where brainwhased by the ruleship of his "family" which also had a crap past, where they can do whatever they want without worry with laws, put kim in usa and think if he could had did the samething as he did in NK, while trump could not be totally ruthless as kim, the few things which separate trump from kim are just "the place where they rule", because in behavious they have a lot in common, it's not for nothing which a lot of places outside USA are comparing kim with trump and considering both of them dangerous in the same way.

another note "being cruel and crazy" is =//= from being idiot and crazy, kim while he can be a lot of things, he is not idiot, cuz all he did so far is pretty much "smart" from a sociopath/psichopat, which normally are very smart, he get riddle of his family to make sure he is the only one to leader the country, while this is morally and a lot of things wrong this is not "idiot" as long he can control the mass in his country" only could had be idiot if he had did it in a country like usa or brazil or any "democracy" country where nor the majority of population is brainwashed to follow only his leadership, so far honestly between kim and trump the only one showing idiocity and incompetence is trump, because no one is taking trump serious or obeying him inside usa and he is considered a big threat allong the others countries outside USA, while kim peoples are taking his actions serious and his country will follow him in any action he does.

like i told one is a totally reckless insane psychopat which want show how strong and dangerous he and his country can be while the other is a insane idiot megalomaniac with much less power than what he dream to have and can't really go full what he want because he still in check and don't have majority of the country(have a minority), in a country where democracy is strong and peoples are ready to fight for they freedom if he try to do something crazy.

what separe trump from kim or hittler or napoleon and others crazy "evil lunatics" is which they have or the mass or the "right minority"(in hittler case he have the whole army at his side to support his actions at the beginner).

give trump the same "chance" as that others peoples, give him total militar support or big majority of mass support and let's see where trump could true go.

for me what make trump appart from that others peoples is just opportunity, charism, intelect and lucky which he don't have so far.

[SeijiSensei]

it's not for nothing which a lot of places outside USA are comparing kim with trump and considering both of them dangerous in the same way.

Which places? Allies, adversaries, non-aligned nations? Who is making such statements? Public officials, knowledgeable journalists and academics, or random bloggers? A number of officials in the EU are known to have problems with Trump, but I don't think someone like Merkel, May or Macron would compare him to Kim Jong-un.

And, it would be a lot easier to read your posts if you used proper capitalization and reviewed and edited what you wrote before posting so they have less of a stream-of-consciousness feel. Some links to evidence for your arguments would help, too.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Which places? Allies, adversaries, non-aligned nations? Who is making such statements? Public officials, knowledgeable journalists and academics, or random bloggers? A number of officials in the EU are known to have problems with Trump, but I don't think someone like Merkel, May or Macron would compare him to Kim Jong-un.

And, it would be a lot easier to read your posts if you used proper capitalization and reviewed and edited what you wrote before posting. Most of your postings have a stream-of-consciousness feel. Some links to evidence for your arguments would help, too.

allies, like UK, it's have a big reason he not was allowed to see the queen and was threated to not come to some states in UK due to his low popularity, also japan and south korea, which also are his allies don't see trump with the "good eyes", while so far he don't make any "real enemie" so far he is making a good job and make his allies starting do "dislike his alliances.just do some google search about trump and his country allies and you see which things are getting bad as trump keep making his idiot efforts to lose allies.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...-un/705140001/
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...p-trade-243767
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/865...e-nigel-farage

trump is slowling mining USA relationship with others countries due to his idiocity.

[Demi.]

There is a large leap from being disliked to being compared to Kim(or worse than). If you want to compare Trump with anyone, it would be someone like Nigel Firaga.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Demi.

There is a large leap from being disliked to being compared to Kim(or worse than). If you want to compare Trump with anyone, it would be someone like Nigel Firaga.

at one point both south korean and japan compared trump with kim which already show how much bad can go trump reputation outside USA, if anything i like to do is read news about trump since he started to show his "true collors after the USA elections end and he become the president, and for sure trump reputation around world is falling pretty fast in the places which where not "russian friends" and that with just less than one year.

trump is making USA goes from a respected and looked up and envy country around the world to a "big bad joke", the WH become a sitcom but not that much fun for the world to see his crazyness which sometimes can be a little fun but overal are very disgusting and reflect a really crap side of USA and his bigote peoples since the currently president represent that peoples in USA.

[SeijiSensei]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

allies, like UK, it's have a big reason he not was allowed to see the queen

It's a enormous leap from Teresa May's Government reacting to public opinion by not scheduling a visit with Elizabeth II to Kim's shooting political opponents with anti-aircraft weapons.

Yes, Trump is unpopular in Europe. Yes, he is probably unpopular with most EU politicians and public officials. But no, none of that translates into their thinking he is same as Kim Jong-un.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

It's a enormous leap from Teresa May's Government reacting to public opinion by not scheduling a visit with Elizabeth II to Kim's shooting political opponents with anti-aircraft weapons.

Yes, Trump is unpopular in Europe. Yes, he is probably unpopular with most EU politicians and public officials. But no, none of that translates into their thinking he is same as Kim Jong-un.

Even if what they do are different things and what kim do make him look much worst, don't change the fact of overal world opnion about trump is crap and in some places specially asia(specially japan and south korea which are very close to north korean and the biggest collateral damage) peoples does see trump as the same threat as kim and is not just because he is a cold blood murder, but because he is idiot and crazy enough to start a nuclear war which could put the whole world in danger just for some little whin, that is why some peoples are afraid of trump and compare him to kim, the problem is which trump is short tempered and easy to be angried and normally can does crazy things when angered and being the president of one of the strong and big nations make him even a big threat, just go read some news outside USA and you see how much trump is really 'liked", and which we have some places which consider trump as danger as kim, not in the same way or because he do the same but because in both cases we have 2 big insane guys which "really, really dangerous weapons" playing a very dangerous game which could trigger the "world doomsday", just to proof which is the biggest scum between each other.

this is not about how equal in personality they are but how much dangerous each one can be based on the "firepower they have at they hands" and how much short tempered and crazy each one is.

[SeijiSensei]

In the absence of real evidence, it seems mostly that you're just expressing your own dislike for Trump and claiming your opinions are held by the world. Writing about "peoples" and how they feel isn't really convincing without polling data or public statements from foreign leaders.

I'm done with this argument now, though, because it won't go anywhere.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

In the absence of real evidence, it seems mostly that you're just expressing your own dislike for Trump and claiming your opinions are held by the world. Writing about "peoples" and how they feel isn't really convincing without polling data or public statements from foreign leaders.

I'm done with this argument now, though, because it won't go anywhere.

you are the one not point any "evidence" i put a post tlaking about south korean, i also saw one about both south korean and japan about they are scared about trump but could not find again, i'm posting evidences but you are the one posting none and just "say no without any base" you can please post any evidence about your claims?? cuz is funny when someone demand evidences but himself don't post, then is just you "opnion", yeah is better be done cuz looks like some peoples only believe on they own opnions and news are like trump say "fake news.

ok thanks.

[Demi.]

You made the claim, you have to support it with evidence; it doesn't work both ways.

You did post articles in attempt to provide evidence, but they're not inferring the same things you are. The one that comes closest is merely an opinion piece. Both Trump and Kim have threatened each other, but the US isn't the one missile testing over Japanese skies or threatening to destroy its surrounding countries.

To be clear, this is the evidence you failed to provide

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

as long congress don't have the "balls" to get riddle of the "insane" madman or are in majority scums garbage like him then he will keep relevant and making looks like the NK dictator is a "innocent children" close to him.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Demi.

You made the claim, you have to support it with evidence; it doesn't work both ways.

You did post articles in attempt to provide evidence, but they're not inferring the same things you are. The one that comes closest is merely an opinion piece. Both Trump and Kim have threatened each other, but the US isn't the one missile testing over Japanese skies or threatening to destroy its surrounding countries.

To be clear, this is the evidence you failed to provide

http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-...r-donald-trump
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/12/pl...ictator-video/
i was exagerating and being sarcastic but the point is which you have peoples in countries which feel trump being dangerous as kin jong, unless fake news and all bla bla bla, because he is a unstable person as kim and the only thing "holding trump back" is his own lack of powers to do whatever he want, no matter how you claim "no laws deny him to fire missiles" the same "no laws can protect him from being impeached and worse if he does start the war alone without a "real reason", for now no matter how dangerous kim jong also is he still don't did anything out of the "laws" or something like that which could be a reason to trump start a nuclear war against him and be "supported at home and outside home.

if trump does fire first will be even worst than when bush started the war over iraque with the "nuclear bombs excuse", this time is not about "sending soldiers to fight" is about sending something who can "devastate a whole country and also affect they neightboars in a really terrible way, if was just a "regular war about sending troopes", then probably trump could already started and we could already had the nk x usa war happening or something like that but the problem is which we are talking not about "losing some thousand of lifes, but millions or even "billions" ife we count the neightboards and also things like water and have a place totally impossible to live for unknow ammount of years (remember iroshima and nagasaki or the russia place which i forget where have a nuclear accident), that places still impossible to life due to high levels of radiation and contamination, even after like 50, 60 years later and we still don't know how much more time will take until that places finally become "safe" and even if this can really happening, we are talking about "having" 2 morons/moking taunting at each other, about really dangerous weapons and it is really scare specially for the peoples near that places, things are going to a point where both japan and SK are start thing take back they own "nuclear weapons" development, trump and kim are forcing a "world rush nuclear weapons development, which is freaking crazy.

you have news showing peoples scared about it, about that possibility this is not i'm being biased this is happening you accepting or no, peoples around the world are scared over both trump and kim, not just kim, because while he was the one starting all the crap, trump is the one trying to make it grow with his rethorics and taunts toward kim, both of them are playing the "chicken run game" and for now the world is in alert specially the asian, as we see how much even china already started to increase his anti-missiles defenses and already reforced the defense on his borders with NK, china, japan and south korea so far are the countries in more danger in the currently situation.

ofcourse things could never happening and both of then just keep they "chicken play" until they get tired and nothing happening but this don't means which peoples are not scared of the currently situation.

[Akito Kinomoto]

KJU is a brutal dictator but a shrewd actor on the world stage. He would not launch against mainland America, Guam, or Seoul, SK unless he knew offensive action was initiated against him, due to the diminutive military at his disposal juxtaposed to the strongest military in human history. KJU using military offense against another foreign power would be self-defense toward an aggressor and nothing else

One is more cognizant of their place on the world stage than most would think, the other proves less aware of their capacity than even their strongest detractors have estimated

[CrowKenobi]

Let's return to the "topic" of the thread and move the comparisons to another thread (or use a social group).

Thank you.

[MrTerrorist]

Donald Trump has been accused of fuelling hate crime with a tweet erroneously linking a rise in the UK crime rate to "radical Islamic terror".

How much stuff does he have to make up about the UK to the point that they have enough of his delusion over their country?

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Donald Trump has been accused of fuelling hate crime with a tweet erroneously linking a rise in the UK crime rate to "radical Islamic terror".

How much stuff does he have to make up about the UK to the point that they have enough of his delusion over their country?

trump really want usa to cut ties with UK, he really hate it, well they also hate him, it gonna be just a matter of time until he no more a welcome person to the country and UK finally stop being USA ally as he plan and probably must be part of his plan to make USA close to Russia, trump gonna cut all usa non russia friendly allies to force usa become russia allie and UK is his first target since he keep attacking and insult that country a lot times since he becomes president.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Donald Trump has been accused of fuelling hate crime with a tweet erroneously linking a rise in the UK crime rate to "radical Islamic terror".

How much stuff does he have to make up about the UK to the point that they have enough of his delusion over their country?

Dont worry, he and his most rabid followers also believe the same things about France. Where, in his mind, we have become a Qalifate in all but the name.