Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA - Episode 6 Discussion / Poll

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by kyouray

I think he's talking about those shots :

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If that's all he got out of that scene, then that says a great deal more about him than anything about the show.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by kyouray

Best episode so far & dat theme. The sword fight probably animated by Hironori Tanaka is the best part
I had read the manga but I'm surprised how this series can provide good action scenes, I didn't expect this much so I'm pleasantly surprised. There're still some digital effects I can't bear and the first part of the episode may be too long otherwise it was pretty good.


I think he's talking about those shots :

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Well there you go. I figured they probably existed somewhere in the episode, but that's really not much to get worked up about.

Makes sense I forgot though. That fight pretty much erased everything else that happened in the episode from my head .

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by zerodragon

Stay fateful my friends LOL

Ha ha ha... well-played!

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

If that's all he got out of that scene, then that says a great deal more about him than anything about the show.

Yeah. While I suppose there could be some subtle sex appeal here, that's very much secondary to everything else going on in this scene.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by kyouray

I think he's talking about those shots :

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Don't get me wrong, I am a guy, but I really wasn't looking at their butts during those scenes.

[kyouray]

There's nothing wrong, I only noticed those shots because it was nicely animated & detailed. Plus I think only Miyu's one could be called buttshot.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

If that's all he got out of that scene, then that says a great deal more about him than anything about the show.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Well there you go. I figured they probably existed somewhere in the episode, but that's really not much to get worked up about.

Yeah it's indeed secondary and forgettable after this impressive fight

[Funkatron]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Well there you go. I figured they probably existed somewhere in the episode, but that's really not much to get worked up about.

Makes sense I forgot though. That fight pretty much erased everything else that happened in the episode from my head .

Yeah, that was a spur of the moment post; didn't have enough time then to make a more detailed response. I only posted that because I was mad that they could have easily filled that moment with more rainbow explosions .

The episode was indeed awesome and I can't wait to find out what the heck happened to Illya. Apart from maybe a few episodes of the first Fate series, which I dropped for dislike of the main protagonist guy, I'm a virgin to the franchise. I'm watching purely because I love a good magical girl beat down. Most of the discussion in these threads seem to be from fans of the complete Fate landscape so I tend to shy away.

I do love this series thus far for its charm. Magical devices scamming girls into the job is pretty hilarious and the fight scenes are awesome and pure eye candy. Glad I didn't have to know anything about the other Fate series to like this one, especially since the first one soured me to watching anything else.

[zero7090]

waiting for silver link to announce their bankruptcy after spaming all their money on ep 6 .............

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by zero7090

waiting for silver link to announce their bankruptcy after spaming all their money on ep 6 .............

Killers already riding your home. How dare you to wish bankruptcy for this studio?

[Sasukeuzi]

Guys my eyes are still wet from the excitement. When they started playing the Emiya OST I knew that this would be episode of the year. I'm surprised Silver Link could actually put out something of Ufotable quality, too bad we can't expect anything big like this for the rest of the season.

Originally Posted by zero7090

waiting for silver link to announce their bankruptcy after spaming all their money on ep 6 .............

It's all about that Unlimited Spam Works man. Spam spam spam the money on ep 6.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Sasukeuzi

Guys my eyes are still wet from the excitement. When they started playing the Emiya OST I knew that this would be episode of the year. I'm surprised Silver Link could actually put out something of Ufotable quality, too bad we can't expect anything big like this for the rest of the season.


It's all about that Unlimited Spam Works man. Spam spam spam the money on ep 6.

Why can't we expect anything big like this for the rest of the season?

[Dengar]

Because money is a finite resource?

[Demi.]

Damn, that was amazing. I rarely post in episode discussions, but who would have thought I'd witness an episode of such quality from a series I essentially started because Miyu looked like the type of character I enjoy. I can't help but feel Silver Link just spent eight episodes worth of budget during the second half of this episode. Tell me it isn't so. Tell me this isn't the first and last I'll see of such quality from Silver Link. QQ

On another note, if Illya was able to maintain that look and demeanor on a constant basis, she would no doubt be on my favorite character list, and not the "meh" tier she currently resides in. However, this episode alone makes me think better of her. She looked rather...delicious in that getup

Also, did I mention how cute the scene with Miyu carrying Illya home was? It really was.

I give this episode that magical 10/10 I rarely ever do. The first half may have had its issues, but the second half was a 100/10 and I can't rate the first half low enough to justify anything less than a 10/10.

[Jaden]

That was a mind blowing episode! Like a gift that kept on giving.

The only possible gripe is that it screwed with the "power levels" that were established in F/SN...a fake Excalibur shouldn't beat the real thing.

Then again, there are many things in the Nasuverse that have conceptual weaknesses. For example, a target with high divinity gets bound most tightly by Gil's chains, when the Leylines are "killed", Arcueid becomes weak, Berserker getting slashed with Caliburn takes out all his remaining lives, etc etc. So you could imagine that the faeries will rather lend their power to a fake sword than one that's corrupted by evil.

[Hooves]

I suppose this is going to be the closest we'll get to Sparks Liner High. But dang this episode gets a 10/10 for that amazing work.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by Jaden

That was a mind blowing episode! Like a gift that kept on giving.

The only possible gripe is that it screwed with the "power levels" that were established in F/SN...a fake Excalibur shouldn't beat the real thing.

Then again, there are many things in the Nasuverse that have conceptual weaknesses. For example, a target with high divinity gets bound most tightly by Gil's chains, when the Leylines are "killed", Arcueid becomes weak, Berserker getting slashed with Caliburn takes out all his remaining lives, etc etc. So you could imagine that the faeries will rather lend their power to a fake sword than one that's corrupted by evil.

"a fake shouldn't be able to beat the real thing", under normal circumstances, yes. However, circumstances seemed to favor Illya here.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Jaden

That was a mind blowing episode! Like a gift that kept on giving.

The only possible gripe is that it screwed with the "power levels" that were established in F/SN...a fake Excalibur shouldn't beat the real thing.

Then again, there are many things in the Nasuverse that have conceptual weaknesses. For example, a target with high divinity gets bound most tightly by Gil's chains, when the Leylines are "killed", Arcueid becomes weak, Berserker getting slashed with Caliburn takes out all his remaining lives, etc etc. So you could imagine that the faeries will rather lend their power to a fake sword than one that's corrupted by evil.

It's more like the Saber card isn't at full power from already taking some damage and using her Noble Phantasm once.

Ilya was a different story.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Jaden

That was a mind blowing episode! Like a gift that kept on giving.

The only possible gripe is that it screwed with the "power levels" that were established in F/SN...a fake Excalibur shouldn't beat the real thing.

Then again, there are many things in the Nasuverse that have conceptual weaknesses. For example, a target with high divinity gets bound most tightly by Gil's chains, when the Leylines are "killed", Arcueid becomes weak, Berserker getting slashed with Caliburn takes out all his remaining lives, etc etc. So you could imagine that the faeries will rather lend their power to a fake sword than one that's corrupted by evil.

Two equal opponants with equal sources of power one using a traced Excalibur and one using a real Excalibur clashing will result in the one with the real Excalibur winning. That is just as true for Prisma Illya as it is for anything else. However, that was not the situation in this battle.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Two equal opponants with equal sources of power one using a traced Excalibur and one using a real Excalibur clashing will result in the one with the real Excalibur winning. That is just as true for Prisma Illya as it is for anything else. However, that was not the situation in this battle.

Small correction: The Saber Alter that came out of the card isn't the "real" Saber Alter. Rin herself comments that the Heroic Spirits manifested from the cards are just facsimiles or imitations. So, since it's not the "real" Saber Alter, she's not using the "real" Excalibur. In a battle of fake Saber Alter's fake Excalibur vs. Archerko Illya's traced Excalibur, the outcome will obviously not be determined by any rules from the canon Fate universe.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Small correction: The Saber Alter that came out of the card isn't the "real" Saber Alter. Rin herself comments that the Heroic Spirits manifested from the cards are just facsimiles or imitations. So, since it's not the "real" Saber Alter, she's not using the "real" Excalibur. In a battle of fake Saber Alter's fake Excalibur vs. Archerko Illya's traced Excalibur, the outcome will obviously not be determined by any rules from the canon Fate universe.

Her Excalibur would be as real as any Servant's noble phantasm. All Servants, whether in canon universe or another, are just imitations of the person whose name they carry: artificial copies created by the power of the grail in order to provide structure for the war. The weapon Arturia carried in Fate/Stay Night was no more the "real" Excalibur than what Saber Alter carried here: it was simply a replica created when the throne of heroes incarnated her as the Servant Saber. The only one of her noble phantasms that was "real" was Avalon, because it was found in the real world and delivered to her, having come the long way around, rather than being copied like the rest of her equipment.

What we are seeing with the cards, aside from their inherent bloodlust, is likely the true form of a heroic spirit: a powerful creature incarnated from a being of legend that possess no ego of their own. That's what heroic spirits were actually supposed to be, and normally were. The Servants having actual personalities and wills is not normal for heroic spirits, and is due to the use of Third Magic in the holy grail war.

This argument is beside the point, however, because your answer kind of missed my point. Illya's ability to win with her traced Excalibur had nothing to do with any flaws in her opponent, and had everything to do with Illya herself. That was my point.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Saber isn't fake but she is much like Alter Saber her stats are affected, instead of corruption she is being [redacted].