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Kaoru Chujo · 2013-07-05, 14:01

I enjoyed the first ep. I never really got into the first seasons. So the infodump was useful for me. I understand the general situation now in a way I didn't before.

The character design for Shinku pleased me more than it has before, too. And Miyukichi's delivery pleased me just as much as ever...which is a lot.

Crashmaking Zoomatic · 2013-07-05, 16:00

I didn't have as many problems with the first episode as a lot of people have had. I thought it was really entertaining, and even though I watched the first two series ages ago, and have never read the manga, I easily got what was going on (though, to be fair, I did read up a little bit on the second manga beforehand). I actually preferred what I saw here in comparison to when I watched the original series; I don't remember caring for it all that much.

Even after all these years, I couldn't help but notice just how different this Suigintou is too. I...like it so far! So I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.

Tenzen12 · 2013-07-05, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Horse

Load of bollocks - nobody who's seen traumend in full would be confused about Bara/Kirakishou. Kirakishou's appearance at the end of traumend was far more intriguing than this 2013 recap.

I'm so sick and tired of all this traumend hating. Both seasons of the first anime series had superior storytelling and character development to PEACH-PIT's stretched out clusterfuck/infodump approach. Yes, I said it.

tldr: Zuruckspulen is not a sequel to the old anime series. Unfortunately. The only thing they share is the character relationship chart.

PS. Whoever says the 2nd manga series started out as a reboot obviously isn't reading it.

That's weird...

I did watch it in full (and liked it a lot) four or five ears ago. Still only thing I remember about these two, is how much they are similiar...

BTW: I think that idea of two seasons be better for developing characters and story than one episode recap is brillant, I can't belive no one else noticed it yet! You should give yourself pat on your back.

PS: I personaly find this anime folowing original manga is only fair and interesting on top of that.

Dr. Casey · 2013-07-05, 17:14

Kaihan's avatar is probably the sexiest moment of the episode, on a random note. I never thought I'd become an agalmatophiliac, but Sugintou just might convert me.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-07-05, 19:24

It is great to hear Tanaka Rie Evil Gin laugh again.

looks like ep1 is a recap of first 2 seasons without the fake. Not entirely sure what to think of it. Didn't like the idea of entire season of repeats but whole ep1 going that fast give me some whiplash. Gave this ep a 8.

All Hail Gin-Sama

Death to desu.

and i will be having strawberries tonite.

Traece · 2013-07-05, 19:34

Woah. What the heck guys. There's speed limit for plot! Going at this speed is reckless endangerment!

It's interesting that they chose to cover Rozen Maiden in a single episode to setup this series. Only one thing in particularly really popped out at me in terms of quality, and that was that Shinku's voice seemed to lack a certain tinge of authority that I recall her having previously. Maybe that' just because of the nature of this infodump, but hopefully that's not true in future episodes. Maybe it's just me? Beyond that the quality is pretty great.

The preview looked very interesting. I'm hopeful for when this show ACTUALLY STARTS.

Now for Ali Project. ... What the hell was that? I keep listening to this opening trying to figure out whether or not I can like it and I keep finding myself not. It's interesting, and I like the more lighthearted feel of the song as opposed to the normal Ali Project style, but the singing kills it for me a bit. At this point I think the song falls a bit flat, but I appreciate the attempt.

Dr. Casey · 2013-07-05, 19:48

Yeah, good thing it's just a recap. If the whole series went at this speed, the storyline would advance to the heat death of the universe by episode 9.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-07-05, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Dr. Casey

Yeah, good thing it's just a recap. If the whole series went at this speed, the storyline would advance to the heat death of the universe by episode 9.

before that would happen QB to the rescue.

GDiddy · 2013-07-05, 21:43

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Originally Posted by hoshino_crimsonwings

Wow the pace was so fast! I'm so glad they used all the old cast, Rie Tanaka in particular! Would feel so different if they swapped seiyus.

I thought I read somewhere that the woman who's Suisekiseki had health issues and had to be replaced eventually?

Anyway, boy this brings back memories...though I never read the manga but I have seen both series. THis is the best animation besides Free that I've seen so far this summer.

So I take it Sou's and Hina's deaths are more akin to the manga? Because I don't even remember how they died in the series.

Nice to see Canaria is still adorably goofy.

And of course, ALL HAIL THE REAL STAR OF THIS SHOW DESU*points to avatar

Mubyoshi · 2013-07-06, 01:37

Jesus christ Hinaichigo is effin' adorable, I can't get over it!! Why did she have to die!? WHHYYYY!?

Horse · 2013-07-06, 01:59

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

BTW: I think that idea of two seasons be better for developing characters and story than one episode recap is brillant, I can't belive no one else noticed it yet! You should give yourself pat on your back.

I smiled. Good job reading my post. (Or me writing it if anyone else had the same thought as you.)

PS. Best part of the first episode for me was Suigintou flying with that doll head in the OP. Looked absolutely delicious.

JKL · 2013-07-06, 06:10

Some awfully generous appraisals of the first episode here. I was familiar with everything up to Ouvertüre, but even to me this was poorly handled. Characters flitted in and out without any context. The artwork is a little flat compared to the earlier seasons too.

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Originally Posted by Horse

I'm so sick and tired of all this traumend hating. Both seasons of the first anime series had superior storytelling and character development to PEACH-PIT's stretched out clusterfuck/infodump approach. Yes, I said it.

Because if one dares deviate from the source material the sky will fall down, end of world etc. Or so the fan logic goes.

Tenzen12 · 2013-07-06, 06:45

So far there weren't even single person who critised either second season not OVA.

Also is there relation between you quotation and it's answer, cause I don't particulary see any.

ShiroiRyu · 2013-07-06, 08:41

Oh man ...
When i hear the Ali Project OP, i was crying a little.
I'm ... I'm so happy. :'(

ookamigirl · 2013-07-06, 09:16

This anime looks like it has potential.
I'm not really into the doll thing theme.
In some weird way it reminds me of Busou Shinki.
Think I'm gonna skip this one. Too much drama & despair.

frodonk · 2013-07-06, 13:44

HAH, seeing shinku demand tea brought back memories of the first season from years ago.

this series was very memorable for me in that it taught me what a harpsichord was and who taro aso was.

I do remember that people never really liked traumend, and then I remembered that all I cared about was getting more rozen maiden back then so I never really hated it.

the animation this time is kinda blurred compared to what I remember, and the desu~ isn't quite the same (something about the seiyuu having health problems and was replaced?) suigintou this time around isn't as likeable and I don't remember kanaria making an appearance before this. but I'm not complaining, might be because I already knew most of the scenes shown, I totally forgot about the mirror as a door though, although I distinctly remember hinaichigo being the same crybaby as before.

looks like the next episode will be quite interesting.

SoFarGone · 2013-07-06, 17:15

Recap was a bit messy but I see the potential of it so I'll stick around for it.

Kismet-chan · 2013-07-06, 20:28

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Originally Posted by JKL

The artwork is a little flat compared to the earlier seasons too.

My understanding is that Studio DEEN was going for a style that's meant to be much closer to the manga's. So while it does look very "flat", it's now more accurate to the source material. I personally love it (and I still love the original series' designs, too), but that's just me.

Witch of Uncertainty · 2013-07-06, 20:39

I also think the art looks great. Especially Suigintou.

Kismet-chan · 2013-07-06, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Witch of Uncertainty

I also think the art looks great. Especially Suigintou.

This x 500.

View Poll Results: Rozen Maiden Zurückspulen - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10	3	6.12%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	4	8.16%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	17	34.69%
7 out of 10 : Good	9	18.37%
6 out of 10 : Average	7	14.29%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	5	10.20%
4 out of 10 : Poor	2	4.08%
3 out of 10 : Bad	1	2.04%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	1	2.04%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

2013-07-05, 14:01	Link #61
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	I enjoyed the first ep. I never really got into the first seasons. So the infodump was useful for me. I understand the general situation now in a way I didn't before. The character design for Shinku pleased me more than it has before, too. And Miyukichi's delivery pleased me just as much as ever...which is a lot. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2013-07-05, 19:24	Link #65
Xellos-_^ Not Enough Sleep Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: R'lyeh Age: 48	It is great to hear Tanaka Rie Evil Gin laugh again. looks like ep1 is a recap of first 2 seasons without the fake. Not entirely sure what to think of it. Didn't like the idea of entire season of repeats but whole ep1 going that fast give me some whiplash. Gave this ep a 8. All Hail Gin-Sama Death to desu. and i will be having strawberries tonite. __________________

2013-07-05, 19:34	Link #66
Traece :cool: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Age: 32	Woah. What the heck guys. There's speed limit for plot! Going at this speed is reckless endangerment! It's interesting that they chose to cover Rozen Maiden in a single episode to setup this series. Only one thing in particularly really popped out at me in terms of quality, and that was that Shinku's voice seemed to lack a certain tinge of authority that I recall her having previously. Maybe that' just because of the nature of this infodump, but hopefully that's not true in future episodes. Maybe it's just me? Beyond that the quality is pretty great. The preview looked very interesting. I'm hopeful for when this show ACTUALLY STARTS. Now for Ali Project. ... What the hell was that? I keep listening to this opening trying to figure out whether or not I can like it and I keep finding myself not. It's interesting, and I like the more lighthearted feel of the song as opposed to the normal Ali Project style, but the singing kills it for me a bit. At this point I think the song falls a bit flat, but I appreciate the attempt. __________________

2013-07-06, 08:41	Link #74
ShiroiRyu Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: France Age: 35	Oh man ... When i hear the Ali Project OP, i was crying a little. I'm ... I'm so happy. :'( __________________

2013-07-05, 16:00	Link #62
Crashmaking Zoomatic Umu. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States	I didn't have as many problems with the first episode as a lot of people have had. I thought it was really entertaining, and even though I watched the first two series ages ago, and have never read the manga, I easily got what was going on (though, to be fair, I did read up a little bit on the second manga beforehand). I actually preferred what I saw here in comparison to when I watched the original series; I don't remember caring for it all that much. Even after all these years, I couldn't help but notice just how different this Suigintou is too. I...like it so far! So I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.

2013-07-05, 17:14	Link #64
Dr. Casey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 36	Kaihan's avatar is probably the sexiest moment of the episode, on a random note. I never thought I'd become an agalmatophiliac, but Sugintou just might convert me.

2013-07-05, 19:48	Link #67
Dr. Casey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 36	Yeah, good thing it's just a recap. If the whole series went at this speed, the storyline would advance to the heat death of the universe by episode 9.

2013-07-06, 01:37	Link #70
Mubyoshi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Jesus christ Hinaichigo is effin' adorable, I can't get over it!! Why did she have to die!? WHHYYYY!?

2013-07-06, 06:45	Link #73
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	So far there weren't even single person who critised either second season not OVA. Also is there relation between you quotation and it's answer, cause I don't particulary see any.

2013-07-06, 09:16	Link #75
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	This anime looks like it has potential. I'm not really into the doll thing theme. In some weird way it reminds me of Busou Shinki. Think I'm gonna skip this one. Too much drama & despair. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2013-07-06, 13:44	Link #76
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	HAH, seeing shinku demand tea brought back memories of the first season from years ago. this series was very memorable for me in that it taught me what a harpsichord was and who taro aso was. I do remember that people never really liked traumend, and then I remembered that all I cared about was getting more rozen maiden back then so I never really hated it. the animation this time is kinda blurred compared to what I remember, and the desu~ isn't quite the same (something about the seiyuu having health problems and was replaced?) suigintou this time around isn't as likeable and I don't remember kanaria making an appearance before this. but I'm not complaining, might be because I already knew most of the scenes shown, I totally forgot about the mirror as a door though, although I distinctly remember hinaichigo being the same crybaby as before. looks like the next episode will be quite interesting.

2013-07-06, 17:15	Link #77
SoFarGone H.A.M. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere on this planet	Recap was a bit messy but I see the potential of it so I'll stick around for it. __________________

2013-07-06, 20:39	Link #79
Witch of Uncertainty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	I also think the art looks great. Especially Suigintou.