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sarugetyou · 2006-01-21, 20:08

when i was watching the eariler episodes, they describe soul society as 'heaven' and gives an impression that it's really awesome and happy place to live.
then we get to see the actual soul society and it's like freaking ethiopia.

if i was a ghost, i would try to avoid the 'soul burial' at all cost so i don't get to live in that place.
actaully, even becoming a hollow would be better than going to that ghetto.

MobiuS · 2006-01-21, 20:43

Why are you ragging on Ethiopia? Theres people there that could buy 100 of your home and not feel the pinch in their wallet.

sceeZer · 2006-01-21, 21:18

dude i thought the same thing when i first saw SS. specially after seeing the story for rukia and renji. poor districts in heaven? damn i would run and hide from shinigamis lol. having to steal food and crap in heaven isnt where i wanna spend my eternal after life.

one more thing when u see the "map" of SS you see that "court of pure souls" is pretty big and has a good % out of all SS. thin in entire SS there are about 6billion souls. say the court is 30% thats huge how did ichigo run to the middle in, what 14 days? also how many shinigamis is there if the court takes up such a big part of ss lol

Kurz · 2006-01-21, 21:44

Soul burial or become a Hollow

Meh I like SS since its not the typical heaven of angels with hearts, clouds and your hearts desire is just a thought away. Its quite interesting to walk through its like a fudal Japan with some exceptitions.

sceeZer · 2006-01-21, 22:09

yeah it's cool but not heaven. when you think of heaven that is not it lol. i wouldnt wanna go there when i died especially not to the pood parts. it's just not a nice place and it is like the thread says a gettho

sarugetyou · 2006-01-21, 22:09

yeah and you are starving and have to steal food to survive.
just try that in real life for just 1 month and see if you can still say it's interesting.

Komataguri · 2006-01-21, 23:41

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Originally Posted by sarugetyou

yeah and you are starving and have to steal food to survive.
just try that in real life for just 1 month and see if you can still say it's interesting.

They don't starve in soul society.

They only need water to survive because they are spirits.

Food is just a, for lack of a better term, habbit.

That is, if I recall correctly.

Ziv · 2006-01-21, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Komataguri

They don't starve in soul society.

They only need water to survive because they are spirits.

Food is just a, for lack of a better term, habbit.

That is, if I recall correctly.

no, you need food if you use your spirit power. otherwise you don't

Kurz · 2006-01-21, 23:58

Sarugetyou I think you are missing the fact this is a show...
I just found it interesting that he took a different route to the whole afterlife thing.

I dont know your past or what you experienced in the past. But here on forums you gota serperate the two factual and fanctical.

My post wasnt a stab at needy people or starving people. I was just commenting that hey what an orginal Idea (at least its the first time I've seen heaven portrayed this way).

Komataguri · 2006-01-21, 23:58

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Originally Posted by Ziv

no, you need food if you use your spirit power. otherwise you don't

We're talking about the average people in Rukongai

not the shinigami o_O;;

Kurz · 2006-01-22, 00:00

I think I remember some of the kids eating candy in a flash back of Rukia's past. Yea so i think its just a habbit since they love the taste of it.

Komataguri · 2006-01-22, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Kurz

I think I remember some of the kids eating candy in a flash back of Rukia's past. Yea so i think its just a habbit since they love the taste of it.

Exactly, So people arn't exactly starving. Its just a habbit to eat. Except for the people who use spirtual powers, but they are a minority outside of the Shinigami or special families like Ganju's

Sirch · 2006-01-22, 00:57

I agree, doesn't seem very "heaven-like" but then again bleach doesn't exactly take the Christian stance on heaven/hell.

I think for the sake of this story the way SS was portrayed was cool. Souls that go there grow older and eventually are reincarnated or become shinigami.

Spoiler for episode 62:

Dark` · 2006-01-22, 01:02

The other thing is that there are various levels/districts to the Soul Society. Renji and Rukia lived in one of the slums, one of the lowest levels in Soul Society. Hence why it was probably such a big place to be. I doubt if some of the higher levels would have the same problems (needing to steal to eat, etc).

With that being said, one wonders how they determine who goes to what level/district..

Goldsplinter · 2006-01-22, 01:29

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Originally Posted by Dark`

The other thing is that there are various levels/districts to the Soul Society. Renji and Rukia lived in one of the slums, one of the lowest levels in Soul Society. Hence why it was probably such a big place to be. I doubt if some of the higher levels would have the same problems (needing to steal to eat, etc).

With that being said, one wonders how they determine who goes to what level/district..

Karma. Well it's the best theory so far!!

Bedlam · 2006-01-22, 01:43

I bet the real Heaven is ... the dissipation of your soul. Only then would eternal rest/peace be guaranteed.

Eclipze · 2006-01-22, 04:35

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Originally Posted by Bedlam

I bet the real Heaven is ... the dissipation of your soul. Only then would eternal rest/peace be guaranteed.

Personally, I think that's the extinction of your soul. Of course, you wont go through the hell in SS or on earth anymore...

Wolcik · 2006-01-22, 05:12

If ur in close to Center u won't have problems as everybody is ur family or something,
but think about ppl like Ikkaku and Ken-chan that just love to fight and they can have all slashing they want in futher areas, I just love that

Morisato · 2006-01-22, 05:30

It is better to go to SS if you're a soul.

You see, if you're in the real world, you'll get hunted by hollows then turn into a mindless zombie and either be hunted by shinigami or get sucked into one of the giant Menos. Other 2 options are hell and SS, hell would be torture for all eternity.

Eclipze · 2006-01-22, 07:40

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What map?

And Ichigo basically only needed about one and a half day, to reach the center... however they didn't start at he outer border.

Actually, I think he meant the "bird's eye view" part at the beginning of the SS arc when they arrived there. There are some instances of this I believe (ie. when Ikkaku's sister is explaining about using the cannon to get into the central area).

Not too sure about the naming part though, nor how much of a "map" it was.

2006-01-21, 20:08	Link #1
sarugetyou Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Soul Society is ghetto when i was watching the eariler episodes, they describe soul society as 'heaven' and gives an impression that it's really awesome and happy place to live. then we get to see the actual soul society and it's like freaking ethiopia. if i was a ghost, i would try to avoid the 'soul burial' at all cost so i don't get to live in that place. actaully, even becoming a hollow would be better than going to that ghetto.

2006-01-22, 00:57	Link #13
Sirch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Age: 44	I agree, doesn't seem very "heaven-like" but then again bleach doesn't exactly take the Christian stance on heaven/hell. I think for the sake of this story the way SS was portrayed was cool. Souls that go there grow older and eventually are reincarnated or become shinigami. Spoiler for episode 62: Aizen says no one was standing in Heaven, not even God, and he will stand in Heaven __________________

2006-01-22, 05:12	Link #18
Wolcik Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Poland Age: 37	If ur in close to Center u won't have problems as everybody is ur family or something, but think about ppl like Ikkaku and Ken-chan that just love to fight and they can have all slashing they want in futher areas, I just love that __________________

2006-01-21, 20:43	Link #2
MobiuS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Why are you ragging on Ethiopia? Theres people there that could buy 100 of your home and not feel the pinch in their wallet.

2006-01-21, 21:18	Link #3
sceeZer Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: norway	dude i thought the same thing when i first saw SS. specially after seeing the story for rukia and renji. poor districts in heaven? damn i would run and hide from shinigamis lol. having to steal food and crap in heaven isnt where i wanna spend my eternal after life. one more thing when u see the "map" of SS you see that "court of pure souls" is pretty big and has a good % out of all SS. thin in entire SS there are about 6billion souls. say the court is 30% thats huge how did ichigo run to the middle in, what 14 days? also how many shinigamis is there if the court takes up such a big part of ss lol

2006-01-21, 21:44	Link #4
Kurz Gao~ a sound for the ages Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I live in a relm of swirling of thought and emotion, Ever lost in the relm of infinite possiblities. Age: 37	Soul burial or become a Hollow Meh I like SS since its not the typical heaven of angels with hearts, clouds and your hearts desire is just a thought away. Its quite interesting to walk through its like a fudal Japan with some exceptitions.

2006-01-21, 22:09	Link #5
sceeZer Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: norway	yeah it's cool but not heaven. when you think of heaven that is not it lol. i wouldnt wanna go there when i died especially not to the pood parts. it's just not a nice place and it is like the thread says a gettho

2006-01-21, 22:09	Link #6
sarugetyou Member Join Date: Dec 2005	yeah and you are starving and have to steal food to survive. just try that in real life for just 1 month and see if you can still say it's interesting.

2006-01-21, 23:58	Link #9
Kurz Gao~ a sound for the ages Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I live in a relm of swirling of thought and emotion, Ever lost in the relm of infinite possiblities. Age: 37	Sarugetyou I think you are missing the fact this is a show... I just found it interesting that he took a different route to the whole afterlife thing. I dont know your past or what you experienced in the past. But here on forums you gota serperate the two factual and fanctical. My post wasnt a stab at needy people or starving people. I was just commenting that hey what an orginal Idea (at least its the first time I've seen heaven portrayed this way).

2006-01-22, 00:00	Link #11
Kurz Gao~ a sound for the ages Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I live in a relm of swirling of thought and emotion, Ever lost in the relm of infinite possiblities. Age: 37	I think I remember some of the kids eating candy in a flash back of Rukia's past. Yea so i think its just a habbit since they love the taste of it.

2006-01-22, 01:02	Link #14
Dark` The Terror of Death Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Land of igloos	The other thing is that there are various levels/districts to the Soul Society. Renji and Rukia lived in one of the slums, one of the lowest levels in Soul Society. Hence why it was probably such a big place to be. I doubt if some of the higher levels would have the same problems (needing to steal to eat, etc). With that being said, one wonders how they determine who goes to what level/district..

2006-01-22, 01:43	Link #16
Bedlam Delphic Babel Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my mind Age: 38	I bet the real Heaven is ... the dissipation of your soul. Only then would eternal rest/peace be guaranteed.

2006-01-22, 05:30	Link #19
Morisato Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	It is better to go to SS if you're a soul. You see, if you're in the real world, you'll get hunted by hollows then turn into a mindless zombie and either be hunted by shinigami or get sucked into one of the giant Menos. Other 2 options are hell and SS, hell would be torture for all eternity.