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2010-12-28, 20:11 | Link #20522 |
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Unless the reason he is alive in Lion's world is that he wasn't murdered.
I really don't think Kinzo's death scene was legit. I just can't see him going out so peacefully. Is it possible the red-guts line from Beato3 isn't referring to some injury from the fall? |
2010-12-28, 20:13 | Link #20523 | |
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Besides, wouldn't Lion's birth and acceptance into the family give him a reason to give up drinking, rather than continuing to indulge in it? That Lion's existence causes Kinzo to stop drinking doesn't preclude the possibility that he did so heavily before Lion's birth. |
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2010-12-28, 20:13 | Link #20524 | |
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But then you'd have to imagine that Nanjo was the murderer or an accomplice because he said Kinzo was going to die soon back in 1984.
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Absinthe has been part of the characterization since the beginning. And in Episode 2, Battler got into Kinzo's booze stash before going up to the study at Genji's request. That very same Genji then commented on Kinzo's love for drinking. |
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2010-12-28, 23:00 | Link #20531 |
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Converting small quantities of gold into cash isn't hard if it's one or two bars. Especially because Kinzo allegedly Repressed the gold with his own seals.
Now, massive quantities of gold, that wouldn't be so easy. But one or two bars worth, not a rough task. |
2010-12-28, 23:03 | Link #20532 |
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Well, actually, yes, it is, if you don't want to get into criminal bullshit. Krauss brings it up as a damn arguing point. The gold isn't on the market and lacks a valid government seal and serialization, Kinzo's seal stamp won't mean jack. If Nanjo tries to convert it he could get into international legal trouble.
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2010-12-29, 01:52 | Link #20533 |
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Actually, no, not really. I have most of my savings in gold (got it back at 750ish an oz). I went with Kruggerand's to avoid the risk of unmarked gold, but if you were dealing with anyone who could Assay gold, you could market it.
You get way less if you're going to have to assay it and you're going to do it legitimately, but its still marketable. You would take a huge hit to the price you could command for the gold, but you could sell it. The siblings would want Krauss's connections for getting the most out of the gold, and for doing large scale, regular transactions, which would be sure to draw attention. But with the reporting standards of 1986, you would be fine with one or two gold bars. You lose profit from having to have someone test/vouch for the purity, but there are legitimate channels to do this through. Since the gold is essentially "free" to him, it'd be fine. |
2010-12-29, 02:44 | Link #20534 |
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I still maintain my theory that George is manipulating Shannon into everything and the 2 year gap between the end of Yasu's story and the Epitaph Murders are where he warps her into being a serial murderer(or serial murderer accomplice). Without outside manipulation Yasu simply has no motivation to kill anyone except Battler or perhaps herself out of grief and rage.
I've more or less suspected George ever since Ep 3 though. Him bringing Shannon "Back to life" with the help of "Beatrice" was just too suspicious especially if you factor in Shkanontrice and Personality Death symbolism. |
2010-12-29, 02:50 | Link #20535 | |
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If you believe what was presented, Kinzo apologized for his incest, etc. If you don't believe that, the possibilities there also get darker. |
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2010-12-29, 03:30 | Link #20536 | |
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2010-12-29, 06:43 | Link #20537 |
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So it is time for us to post the final version of hypothesis?
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Prediction for EP8's content: -Amakusa is Battler, so only Battler returned -Focus is on Battler's family, the tragedy is prevented by Rudolf revealing Battler's birth -Okonogi's ass kicked hard
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2010-12-29, 09:28 | Link #20538 |
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Again, keep in mind that:
I mean... furniture is like a character of sorts, either a role played or an imagined construct. Yasu was well aware of this as it was basically her idea in the first place. Logically, if she starts thinking of herself as "furniture" it means she believes she's nothing more than an actor-in-role or a fictional construct. I'll assume she didn't suddenly become aware that she was in a book, which leaves me with the idea that she realized she was actually "playing a role." Well, what role can she be playing? The role of a servant? That wouldn't give her a furniture complex, she's already been doing that for a while and doesn't seem to mind it. The role of the family head? She seems competent enough at that and just wants to keep it quiet and let Krauss have it officially. But you know what would make me feel like she does, in her situation? Finding out I'm just being used because it's convenient to Genji (and/or Nanjo/Kumasawa). Having my insecurities soothed by people I trust assuring me that I'm somebody special when I'm actually just being built up to make somebody else feel better or get somebody some money. That I convinced myself I'd have to give up on two consecutive romances because I thought I was related to them. You want a motive to go psycho, there's one.
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2010-12-29, 09:42 | Link #20540 |
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Eh there's nothing that substantial to it. Author Theory, Fictional Shkanon Only, Battler's alive, etc. I don't have some blueprint of where I think ep8 will go, other than guessing there will be a lot of Ange since it parallels ep4.
I have no comprehensive theories about the murders within the games because I really don't care about them and I don't think figuring out exactly how everything went down is really the most thematically important thing. Will's answers, even the non-answers, are good enough for me.
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