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Darknemo2000 · 2008-10-08, 03:12

So, how is this show GA-REI? I dont see anything about GA-REI from it... Different story, different characters - they should not have called it GA-REI to begin with.

They could have easily called it Clannad, Shakugan No Shana or Zero No Tsukaima...it would make just as much sense...

[DOT].L · 2008-10-08, 03:50

First episode consisted of a whole lot of action, a whole lot of blood, and a whole lot of WTF. Great for generating interest. Not so great if it's solely designed to generate interest without a legitimate plot related explanation.

Should the premises set in the first episode remain valid for the entire duration of the series, there's no way these casualties can be ignored and quietly swept under the rug. Until this is addressed quickly somehow, I can't say I want to take this show seriously.

HayashiTakara · 2008-10-08, 03:54

All I gotta say is... WTF?!?!

If its a new cast every episode, I think I'm gonna drop it.. it feels pointless if it comes to that... I prefer character development than just cool action with shallow characters...

That1GuyTim · 2008-10-08, 04:19

What if we look at the first episode as the last episode. Then, starting next episode it goes back in a sort of flash back and the rest of the episodes lead up to the first one.

That's just my theory of what it could be though.

Zhaxra · 2008-10-08, 04:23

Definitely liked this one. The ending was unexpected but I loved the fact that the end credits had no music and no images. It really prolonged the 'wtf' factor of the ending. That was a brilliant touch.

I wonder if the 'other' group, the 'Ministry of the Environment' (according to the sub) was behind the ending's surprise. Probably not, but it sounded like they were up to no good.

I went into this blind (no knowledge of the manga it's based off of), and it's looking to be a must watch for me this season.

Darknemo2000 · 2008-10-08, 04:38

Zhaxra, knowing manga would not add anything because this has no connection with the manga except for the name.

And if its flashbeck... Would it be interesting watching it if you know everyone die in the end? For me it definitely would not be interesting.

Fevvers · 2008-10-08, 04:41

First episode reminds me of Parasite Eve, Silent Hill and their ilk, not that that's a bad thing once in a while. It has cheese factor, yeah, but it still seems interesting regardless.

Casshern · 2008-10-08, 06:08

So the producers aimed at giving the viewers a wtf(!) moment and succeded for the most part. I was pretty impressed and it's definitely grabbed my attention.

The animation and artwork was pretty good. I thought the motorcycle-combat was cool for the first couple of seconds, but it became a bit cheesy when she started flicking the motorcycle all over the place like she was riding a broomstick.

And yeah, Natsuki w/motorcycle obviously reminded me of Kuga Natsuki w/ Ducati DR3. The two Natsuki even look similar. Btw, anyone recognise what type of bike she's riding?

orion · 2008-10-08, 06:39

I'm betting that..

Spoiler for ep 1:

@Darknemo2000: I'm betting that the boy is definitely a manga character.

mangalowres · 2008-10-08, 06:52

This was one of the most disturbing and weird first episodes of all times

If this should be the "end" why should we watch the rest, we know what will happen to all characters ...

Arghs

SuperKnuckles · 2008-10-08, 07:24

I literally had to boo them for killing off all the members or most of them if some of them had survived.

That said, the show was well made and all. But killing everyone in the first ep? I'm a little peeved about that..

Joachim · 2008-10-08, 07:39

reserving my judgement until 2 or 3 more episodes air, the bgm didn't really click with me though, but the action scene did, and yea the gore fest

Casshern · 2008-10-08, 07:40

Well really the thing that gave the shock factor was making the viewer think Natsuki is the main character by having her look cool and giving her alot of screen time and then killing her off. We got punked.

SuperKnuckles · 2008-10-08, 07:43

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Originally Posted by neuromancer

Well really the thing that gave the shock factor was making the viewer think Natsuki is the main character by having her look cool and giving her alot of screen time and then killing her off. We got punked.

And like others have said, all that exposure from the official website, the magazine ads, the official series previews, etc etc made out the team to be the main focus. I guess it still could be in various ways (RAISE THE DEAD), but yeah.. punked bigtime.

As for the music, I agree it was pretty cheesy. To me that was the one sticking point. Otherwise, pretty decent and shocking showing. It gradually became more intense as the episode went on. Hell, too many intense first eps this season. Just about all the shows that hasn't been fansubbed yet are VERY intense.

My heart can't take this season's shows....

Joachim · 2008-10-08, 07:48

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Originally Posted by SuperKnuckles

And like others have said, all that exposure from the official website, the magazine ads, the official series previews, etc etc made out the team to be the main focus. I guess it still could be in various ways (RAISE THE DEAD), but yeah.. punked bigtime.

As for the music, I agree it was pretty cheesy. To me that was the one sticking point. Otherwise, pretty decent and shocking showing. It gradually became more intense as the episode went on. Hell, too many intense first eps this season. Just about all the shows that hasn't been fansubbed yet are VERY intense.

My heart can't take this season's shows....

please give me the list of the shows that haven't been fansubbed yet very intense, ill try watching the raw, i am all up for intense show

yea gotta agree, the music was.. err so-so and pretty cheesy, but gotta give props to the action scene though. like i said before, i need to reserve my judgement for this series, we'll see how the actually play the plot after killing all the "supposed to be" main cast

SuperKnuckles · 2008-10-08, 07:59

Well, One Outs was pretty intense in the good old Akagi style, Mouryou no Hako looks like a pretty good horror/mystery drama, Jigoku no Shoujo 3 basically looks better than ever, ef is already testing my drama-meter, etc.

Since I'm basically an anime-omnivore, I might be forced to watch everything that is subbed. So far, I'm pretty damn impressed with the current showings for the most part. Even if they may not all be must-watches, the lot of them make for a good enough watches.

I'm really anticipating the three shows I've listed above though. They deserve a decent subbing effort from what I've seen so far.

TrueKnight · 2008-10-08, 10:01

LMAO lol bizarre first episode! They literally killed all the characters in the website. God, they've completely fooled us. -_-;

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion

I'm betting that the boy is definitely a manga character.

I'm with you. I get the feeling that this has got to be the prologue of the manga.

Spoiler:

jsieczkar · 2008-10-08, 10:42

My thoughts echo what many others have all ready said. The first episode has caught my attention but I don't really have a positive or a negative view on the show. Episode 2 will have bring together the plot of the show because there was no real definable plot from episode 1. Is it a show about the top level people and a bunch of disposable ground troops with no character development? Or are we going to be seeing a new crew of ground pounders that the show will revolve around?

In the end the show seems to have potential to be good, which only 2 other shows have done so far in this season. The negatives so far, the music was corny and didn't add much to the atmosphere, techno when the cast is getting cut down?

I do hope that a different group picks up the show, the biggest WTF moment was the editors note explaining who Led Zeppelin was.

Ashlotte · 2008-10-08, 11:00

Right...then...

Well that was pretty much a textbook exercise in style above substance to say the least. I can't decide if killing the entire main cast made it more interesting or just added a cheap layer of shock factor to a show that was already trying too hard at being "cool". *shrug*

Probably will keep watching atleast until next episode just to see how the follow up the end of episode 1...

Atleast watching Natsuki fling that bike around like a blunt weapon was worth a laugh...Although I really can't believe they had the balls to use a character with the same name, affection for motorcycles, somewhat stoic personality, and a generally similarish character design to the Natsuki most of us are familiar with...

TrueKnight · 2008-10-08, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimichi

Atleast watching Natsuki fling that bike around like a blunt weapon was worth a laugh...Although I really can't believe they had the balls to use a character with the same name, affection for motorcycles, somewhat stoic personality, and a generally similarish character design to the Natsuki most of us are familiar with...

The only difference is that this Natsuki is not a lesbian, less tsundere and actually knows bike-fu. The way she swings her bike reminds me of Eva from Metal Gear Solid 3, just so corny and ridiculous lol.

2008-10-08, 03:54	Link #63
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	All I gotta say is... WTF?!?! If its a new cast every episode, I think I'm gonna drop it.. it feels pointless if it comes to that... I prefer character development than just cool action with shallow characters... __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

2008-10-08, 04:23	Link #65
Zhaxra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Pacific	Definitely liked this one. The ending was unexpected but I loved the fact that the end credits had no music and no images. It really prolonged the 'wtf' factor of the ending. That was a brilliant touch. I wonder if the 'other' group, the 'Ministry of the Environment' (according to the sub) was behind the ending's surprise. Probably not, but it sounded like they were up to no good. I went into this blind (no knowledge of the manga it's based off of), and it's looking to be a must watch for me this season. __________________ "The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake." - GLaDOS

2008-10-08, 06:39	Link #69
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	I'm betting that.. Spoiler for ep 1: Category A and Tooru are the real main characters and that next week the real cast shows up to explain what happened in the first episode. In other words, the website intentionally fooled us. No way Natsuki survived. She was beheaded. Tooru does stand a chance as Category A left his head on. That cut from a distance didn't look too deep. I'm betting that Tooru survives to continue his hunt for that boy and we see his perspective of what happened in the group prior to the demonic infiltration from flashbacks as he gets more pissed and emo that the boy tricked him again. @Darknemo2000: I'm betting that the boy is definitely a manga character. __________________

2008-10-08, 11:00	Link #79
Ashlotte Clockwork Join Date: Oct 2006	Right...then... Well that was pretty much a textbook exercise in style above substance to say the least. I can't decide if killing the entire main cast made it more interesting or just added a cheap layer of shock factor to a show that was already trying too hard at being "cool". shrug Probably will keep watching atleast until next episode just to see how the follow up the end of episode 1... Atleast watching Natsuki fling that bike around like a blunt weapon was worth a laugh...Although I really can't believe they had the balls to use a character with the same name, affection for motorcycles, somewhat stoic personality, and a generally similarish character design to the Natsuki most of us are familiar with... __________________ No matter what enemy. No matter what ally. Mowing everything down with maximum destructive power. That is... "The White Devil of the Administration Bureau"

2008-10-08, 03:12	Link #61
Darknemo2000 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lithuania Age: 39	So, how is this show GA-REI? I dont see anything about GA-REI from it... Different story, different characters - they should not have called it GA-REI to begin with. They could have easily called it Clannad, Shakugan No Shana or Zero No Tsukaima...it would make just as much sense...

2008-10-08, 03:50	Link #62
[DOT].L Delightfully lost... Artist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: All over the place...	First episode consisted of a whole lot of action, a whole lot of blood, and a whole lot of WTF. Great for generating interest. Not so great if it's solely designed to generate interest without a legitimate plot related explanation. Should the premises set in the first episode remain valid for the entire duration of the series, there's no way these casualties can be ignored and quietly swept under the rug. Until this is addressed quickly somehow, I can't say I want to take this show seriously.

2008-10-08, 04:19	Link #64
That1GuyTim Moe~ Moe~ Kyun~ Fansubber Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Allen, TX	What if we look at the first episode as the last episode. Then, starting next episode it goes back in a sort of flash back and the rest of the episodes lead up to the first one. That's just my theory of what it could be though.

2008-10-08, 04:38	Link #66
Darknemo2000 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lithuania Age: 39	Zhaxra, knowing manga would not add anything because this has no connection with the manga except for the name. And if its flashbeck... Would it be interesting watching it if you know everyone die in the end? For me it definitely would not be interesting.

2008-10-08, 04:41	Link #67
Fevvers a regular van veen Join Date: Feb 2007	First episode reminds me of Parasite Eve, Silent Hill and their ilk, not that that's a bad thing once in a while. It has cheese factor, yeah, but it still seems interesting regardless.

2008-10-08, 06:08	Link #68
Casshern Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	So the producers aimed at giving the viewers a wtf(!) moment and succeded for the most part. I was pretty impressed and it's definitely grabbed my attention. The animation and artwork was pretty good. I thought the motorcycle-combat was cool for the first couple of seconds, but it became a bit cheesy when she started flicking the motorcycle all over the place like she was riding a broomstick. And yeah, Natsuki w/motorcycle obviously reminded me of Kuga Natsuki w/ Ducati DR3. The two Natsuki even look similar. Btw, anyone recognise what type of bike she's riding?

2008-10-08, 06:52	Link #70
mangalowres AS Mods Sandbag Join Date: Jan 2008	This was one of the most disturbing and weird first episodes of all times If this should be the "end" why should we watch the rest, we know what will happen to all characters ... Arghs

2008-10-08, 07:24	Link #71
SuperKnuckles Anime Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2004	I literally had to boo them for killing off all the members or most of them if some of them had survived. That said, the show was well made and all. But killing everyone in the first ep? I'm a little peeved about that..

2008-10-08, 07:39	Link #72
Joachim et tu, brute? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Perth WA Age: 37	reserving my judgement until 2 or 3 more episodes air, the bgm didn't really click with me though, but the action scene did, and yea the gore fest

2008-10-08, 07:40	Link #73
Casshern Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Well really the thing that gave the shock factor was making the viewer think Natsuki is the main character by having her look cool and giving her alot of screen time and then killing her off. We got punked.

2008-10-08, 07:59	Link #76
SuperKnuckles Anime Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2004	Well, One Outs was pretty intense in the good old Akagi style, Mouryou no Hako looks like a pretty good horror/mystery drama, Jigoku no Shoujo 3 basically looks better than ever, ef is already testing my drama-meter, etc. Since I'm basically an anime-omnivore, I might be forced to watch everything that is subbed. So far, I'm pretty damn impressed with the current showings for the most part. Even if they may not all be must-watches, the lot of them make for a good enough watches. I'm really anticipating the three shows I've listed above though. They deserve a decent subbing effort from what I've seen so far.

2008-10-08, 10:42	Link #78
jsieczkar Member Join Date: Aug 2008	My thoughts echo what many others have all ready said. The first episode has caught my attention but I don't really have a positive or a negative view on the show. Episode 2 will have bring together the plot of the show because there was no real definable plot from episode 1. Is it a show about the top level people and a bunch of disposable ground troops with no character development? Or are we going to be seeing a new crew of ground pounders that the show will revolve around? In the end the show seems to have potential to be good, which only 2 other shows have done so far in this season. The negatives so far, the music was corny and didn't add much to the atmosphere, techno when the cast is getting cut down? I do hope that a different group picks up the show, the biggest WTF moment was the editors note explaining who Led Zeppelin was.