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Westlo · 2008-03-21, 10:44

I'll be watching this, hopefully Gonzo brings their A game for the first time in a while.

Shouta · 2008-03-21, 10:48

Anything will be their A game after Dragonaut.

DangerMouse · 2008-03-23, 12:31

Yeah, Shouta, I'm not sure I like the rental model either. I'd rather own a DVD if I'm going to pay money personally.

It's nice that they are making it available early, but I hope this doesn't preclude it from being licensed for a real release in the US eventually so that I can own it on dual-language DVD (so I can watch in both languages depending on my mood and so I can watch with friends) with a nice hard copy and nice packaging and stuff.

I'm really not sure I want to pay money for youtube quality streaming videos (bost is pay on-demand streaming from reading the FAQ, right?), plus I also like owning a real physical copy of stuff I like if I'm going to pay money for it. I don't really have the desire to spend money on video files like people do over Xbox Live and stuff, especially with the flimsy HD's I've experienced over the years instead of having a "mostly" permanent DVD on my shelf, often with better quality as well, but I buy a ton of R1 anime DVDs so I'm more or less part of the hardcore group of anime and movie buffs who like collecting DVDs.

Edit:
"The technical and commercial specifics of the video distribution will vary between these websites, from free streaming to fee-based download of high-resolution movie files, so as to cater to the different needs of users in the diverse digital climates."

The AOD article goes further saying that there will be a range of quality available from free to paying for higher res versions depending on which of the three services you use. Atleast that sounds better than what I got out of ANN's original article since it looks like I might be able to sample the crappy youtube-quality ones for free and then have the option of buying a nice high-res one, which might be worth it for some people to hold them until the DVDs come if either show is really good. I still REALLY hope this doesn't stop a real R1 dvd release with both a sub and dub though as I think that would suck.

Tsukiyomi · 2008-03-23, 16:13

I'm skeptical about this anime.. but at the same time i'm kinda anticipating it also.. simply because it has one thing that stands out of all anime in the past five years or so.

It's got an old school feel to the animation and the scenery. Gives me a similar feeling to old school RPG style animes like Record of Lodoss Wars.

Jiyuu · 2008-03-23, 18:37

i think this and belsereiter are gonna be damn good.. especially if gonzo's using them to try to "sell" the new concept to the western world..
i mean there will be no sense in trying to sell a bad product in a new way.. thats just gonna kill the new delivery system..
it would be like having really good clothes in a fasion show and having shitty models.. that just doesn't work..

i think druaga and blesereiter are gonna be really good considering this new info.

btw from what i get
in this new delivery system there will basically be 4 ways to get you Anime
youtube- that will probably be the lowest qulity , but completely free.
crunchyroll- i am not sure if they will have a free LQ version. but if so i kinda think its better then youtube, not sure thou.. also they have an HQ and H264 HQ version options for paying members.
i didn't get to check it out but my guess they will basically be having mq-hq kinda quality. pretty good and cheap (i think its like 20$ for a whole year of HQ over there, or something along those lines)

after this comes BOST.
they have HQ-streaming which is pretty good, you can actually watch it in fullscreen and not feel too bad (and a i have an 1080P screen so a 720P screen would be pretty sane)
over there it goes around 100pts(or about 1.9$) per episode for a 14 days "rent" so you can watch episodes over there if you want HQ stream(which is around the 740px resolutions, so its about the same as the average AVI fansub..)

and then comes the last option,
which was mentioned in a couple of places which is the ability to actually download the ep for a real HD video, I'm talking about 720p-1080p or so.
now it was not said directly but i think this refers to the GONZO p2p site.
i think they will use that to distribute the files for download.
now for those prices theres still nothing,
but i can tell you that speed graphed is sold over there for 1000 yen for the MQ file, and 1500 yen for a HQ file.
they had a special sale for a long time and during that time it was 500 for the MQ and 750 for the HQ.
also theres an ultra HQ that i am guessing will be for 1080p as it is 8MBIT/S.

these files btw are (from what i understood at least) for good.
that is when you buy them they are yours.
but they do have DRM so that kinda sucks at the moment.
i think they might drop it thou, or have an option to pay a little more to get a clean version.

*edit*
fixed the spelling of this post XD
was damn tired when i wrote it at 2am, after a day at a convention XD

ChibiMenos · 2008-03-24, 01:42

I was already excited about this series, and now I'm even more interesting in what they'll be doing with it. I'm guessing that they will eventually end up selling DVDs--and maybe even the English ones at the same time as the Japanese release, since they'll have the subtitles ready to go. If so... this could change a lot. Heck, I might even start buying anime again.

The preview streamed with BOST seemed to be very good quality, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay for streaming video, at least not at $2 per episode...I suppose I'll have to see what the YouTube quality is like. YouTube video quality can be decent, so I might not kill my eyes watching it for free.

And if it's good, I will totally buy any DVDs that are sold to show my support of free legal subs.

As for the show itself, I'm really excited after seeing the preview. Interesting that they've gone with mostly natural hair colors--that's a lot of black! I also love the redhead, of course... if they can get past the slightly girly look of the male characters, it'll at least be fun to watch.

That guy with the crazy eyes scares me.

Anyone think it a bit odd that the show seems that it will have more natural looking characters, while the MMO clips showed some pretty weird hair colors?

Jiyuu · 2008-03-24, 09:20

btw i heard a while ago that there was something gonzo organized sometime this month that featured the first ep of druaga..
thou i didn't verify that and it was from something i read on a Japanese blog..

and about the heir color i think its kinda cool.. makes it seem more serious which is good.

houkoholic · 2008-03-25, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiyuu

btw i heard a while ago that there was something gonzo organized sometime this month that featured the first ep of druaga..
thou i didn't verify that and it was from something i read on a Japanese blog..

You mean this event?

Jiyuu · 2008-03-25, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkoholic

You mean this event?

yeah, now rereading the original post it seems to be this..
i probably misread something the first time..
was kinda lazy so i didn't really read it that well... :P

Nemuru · 2008-03-25, 20:17

I'm sure excited about all this.

It would mark the first time sub and raw watcher can discuss the series in simultaneous. While I'm not expecting very much of the series I do hope for it to be like another Last Exile or Blue sub no.6, two series which have captivate me into watching anime.

And a small question, when is it premiering?

orion · 2008-03-25, 22:29

Premieres 4/4 25:15.

Shouta · 2008-03-26, 20:04

I already mentioned it >_>

Jiyuu · 2008-03-28, 20:25

btw, about this and belsereiter.. are these considered licensed. that is will this be transfered to Fansubbed or to Licensed when it comes out?

Renegade334 · 2008-04-04, 12:05

Druaga no Tou, episode 01

Spoiler for 2chan thread for DnT ep01:

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I'll erase the URL in a few hours (at least until the first raw appears you-know-where) so, if you want to visit the page later on, save my link somewhere (in your bookmarks, whatever) while it's still up.

EDIT: well, since the raw/sub is already available at certain outlets such as YouTube (see below), I might as well go and deal the link a quick death.
...
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As a matter of fact, I don't even think my 2chan links will be needed in the near future. ^_^

Shouta · 2008-04-04, 13:22

Live on Youtube folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vgQ6...57C89A&index=0

Shouta · 2008-04-04, 13:34

After skimming it quick, the translation by Bost are pretty solid. Definitely great for the speed.

darkchibi07 · 2008-04-04, 13:56

Wow! That was a surprisingly hilarious first episode! They really slammed a lot of the usual fantasy, RPG cliches. The OP sequence completely threw me off!

Shouta · 2008-04-04, 14:25

Yeah, this is really awesome. I hope the comedy stays in and it doesn't become a fantasy like they lampooned in the first ep.

Quarkboy · 2008-04-04, 14:30

Huh, well, I guess youtube CAN be region locked...

It seems like english speaking fans worldwide can watch this anime for free... except for people like me who actually live in Japan. We're screwed.
I can watched it streamed for free on gyao, but of course, there are no subs. So basically english speaking fans in japan have to watch it raw.

I shouldn't be griping, since I don't really need the subs anyway, but I was kind of hoping to support one of the newer startups... I guess I can't.

Dandruff · 2008-04-04, 14:38

That was hilarious, I laughed so hard during the tentacle scene... among the many other funny scenes as well, especially this little 'gag'.

"When this battle is over, I'm going back to my hometown and get married."

2008-03-23, 12:31	Link #43
DangerMouse Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Yeah, Shouta, I'm not sure I like the rental model either. I'd rather own a DVD if I'm going to pay money personally. It's nice that they are making it available early, but I hope this doesn't preclude it from being licensed for a real release in the US eventually so that I can own it on dual-language DVD (so I can watch in both languages depending on my mood and so I can watch with friends) with a nice hard copy and nice packaging and stuff. I'm really not sure I want to pay money for youtube quality streaming videos (bost is pay on-demand streaming from reading the FAQ, right?), plus I also like owning a real physical copy of stuff I like if I'm going to pay money for it. I don't really have the desire to spend money on video files like people do over Xbox Live and stuff, especially with the flimsy HD's I've experienced over the years instead of having a "mostly" permanent DVD on my shelf, often with better quality as well, but I buy a ton of R1 anime DVDs so I'm more or less part of the hardcore group of anime and movie buffs who like collecting DVDs. Edit: "The technical and commercial specifics of the video distribution will vary between these websites, from free streaming to fee-based download of high-resolution movie files, so as to cater to the different needs of users in the diverse digital climates." The AOD article goes further saying that there will be a range of quality available from free to paying for higher res versions depending on which of the three services you use. Atleast that sounds better than what I got out of ANN's original article since it looks like I might be able to sample the crappy youtube-quality ones for free and then have the option of buying a nice high-res one, which might be worth it for some people to hold them until the DVDs come if either show is really good. I still REALLY hope this doesn't stop a real R1 dvd release with both a sub and dub though as I think that would suck. Last edited by DangerMouse; 2008-03-23 at 13:52.

2008-03-23, 16:13	Link #44
Tsukiyomi step closer to Amaterasu Join Date: Apr 2004	I'm skeptical about this anime.. but at the same time i'm kinda anticipating it also.. simply because it has one thing that stands out of all anime in the past five years or so. It's got an old school feel to the animation and the scenery. Gives me a similar feeling to old school RPG style animes like Record of Lodoss Wars. __________________ He whose strength is flawless

2008-03-23, 18:37	Link #45
Jiyuu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rehovot,Israel Age: 36	i think this and belsereiter are gonna be damn good.. especially if gonzo's using them to try to "sell" the new concept to the western world.. i mean there will be no sense in trying to sell a bad product in a new way.. thats just gonna kill the new delivery system.. it would be like having really good clothes in a fasion show and having shitty models.. that just doesn't work.. i think druaga and blesereiter are gonna be really good considering this new info. btw from what i get in this new delivery system there will basically be 4 ways to get you Anime youtube- that will probably be the lowest qulity , but completely free. crunchyroll- i am not sure if they will have a free LQ version. but if so i kinda think its better then youtube, not sure thou.. also they have an HQ and H264 HQ version options for paying members. i didn't get to check it out but my guess they will basically be having mq-hq kinda quality. pretty good and cheap (i think its like 20$ for a whole year of HQ over there, or something along those lines) after this comes BOST. they have HQ-streaming which is pretty good, you can actually watch it in fullscreen and not feel too bad (and a i have an 1080P screen so a 720P screen would be pretty sane) over there it goes around 100pts(or about 1.9$) per episode for a 14 days "rent" so you can watch episodes over there if you want HQ stream(which is around the 740px resolutions, so its about the same as the average AVI fansub..) and then comes the last option, which was mentioned in a couple of places which is the ability to actually download the ep for a real HD video, I'm talking about 720p-1080p or so. now it was not said directly but i think this refers to the GONZO p2p site. i think they will use that to distribute the files for download. now for those prices theres still nothing, but i can tell you that speed graphed is sold over there for 1000 yen for the MQ file, and 1500 yen for a HQ file. they had a special sale for a long time and during that time it was 500 for the MQ and 750 for the HQ. also theres an ultra HQ that i am guessing will be for 1080p as it is 8MBIT/S. these files btw are (from what i understood at least) for good. that is when you buy them they are yours. but they do have DRM so that kinda sucks at the moment. i think they might drop it thou, or have an option to pay a little more to get a clean version. edit fixed the spelling of this post XD was damn tired when i wrote it at 2am, after a day at a convention XD Last edited by Jiyuu; 2008-03-24 at 09:14.

2008-03-25, 22:29	Link #51
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Premieres 4/4 25:15. __________________

2008-04-04, 12:05	Link #54
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Druaga no Tou, episode 01 Spoiler for 2chan thread for DnT ep01: ~Link removed~ Rules: - Do NOT spread the 2chan link. - If you want to quote my post, then please ERASE THE URL. - If you want to (re)post screenshots from 2chan, then reload them on Imageshack and kindly supply the new links. In other words, do NOT hotlink. When the short-lived 2chan threads get junked along with their contents (meaning: the screenshots), the broken urls lead the user to a pageful of adult advertisements, a type of content that goes against Animesuki's policy on inappropriate material. I'll erase the URL in a few hours (at least until the first raw appears you-know-where) so, if you want to visit the page later on, save my link somewhere (in your bookmarks, whatever) while it's still up. EDIT: well, since the raw/sub is already available at certain outlets such as YouTube (see below), I might as well go and deal the link a quick death. ... ... As a matter of fact, I don't even think my 2chan links will be needed in the near future. ^_^ __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread. Last edited by Renegade334; 2008-04-04 at 14:23. Reason: 2chan link removal.

2008-03-21, 10:44	Link #41
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	I'll be watching this, hopefully Gonzo brings their A game for the first time in a while.

2008-03-21, 10:48	Link #42
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	Anything will be their A game after Dragonaut.

2008-03-24, 01:42	Link #46
ChibiMenos Gillian-class Chibi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Utah Age: 35	I was already excited about this series, and now I'm even more interesting in what they'll be doing with it. I'm guessing that they will eventually end up selling DVDs--and maybe even the English ones at the same time as the Japanese release, since they'll have the subtitles ready to go. If so... this could change a lot. Heck, I might even start buying anime again. The preview streamed with BOST seemed to be very good quality, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay for streaming video, at least not at $2 per episode...I suppose I'll have to see what the YouTube quality is like. YouTube video quality can be decent, so I might not kill my eyes watching it for free. And if it's good, I will totally buy any DVDs that are sold to show my support of free legal subs. As for the show itself, I'm really excited after seeing the preview. Interesting that they've gone with mostly natural hair colors--that's a lot of black! I also love the redhead, of course... if they can get past the slightly girly look of the male characters, it'll at least be fun to watch. That guy with the crazy eyes scares me. Anyone think it a bit odd that the show seems that it will have more natural looking characters, while the MMO clips showed some pretty weird hair colors?

2008-03-24, 09:20	Link #47
Jiyuu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rehovot,Israel Age: 36	btw i heard a while ago that there was something gonzo organized sometime this month that featured the first ep of druaga.. thou i didn't verify that and it was from something i read on a Japanese blog.. and about the heir color i think its kinda cool.. makes it seem more serious which is good.

2008-03-25, 20:17	Link #50
Nemuru Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	I'm sure excited about all this. It would mark the first time sub and raw watcher can discuss the series in simultaneous. While I'm not expecting very much of the series I do hope for it to be like another Last Exile or Blue sub no.6, two series which have captivate me into watching anime. And a small question, when is it premiering?

2008-03-26, 20:04	Link #52
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	I already mentioned it >_>

2008-03-28, 20:25	Link #53
Jiyuu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rehovot,Israel Age: 36	btw, about this and belsereiter.. are these considered licensed. that is will this be transfered to Fansubbed or to Licensed when it comes out?

2008-04-04, 13:22	Link #55
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	Live on Youtube folks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vgQ6...57C89A&index=0

2008-04-04, 13:34	Link #56
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	After skimming it quick, the translation by Bost are pretty solid. Definitely great for the speed.

2008-04-04, 13:56	Link #57
darkchibi07 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 38	Wow! That was a surprisingly hilarious first episode! They really slammed a lot of the usual fantasy, RPG cliches. The OP sequence completely threw me off!

2008-04-04, 14:25	Link #58
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	Yeah, this is really awesome. I hope the comedy stays in and it doesn't become a fantasy like they lampooned in the first ep.

2008-04-04, 14:30	Link #59
Quarkboy Translator, Producer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 44	Huh, well, I guess youtube CAN be region locked... It seems like english speaking fans worldwide can watch this anime for free... except for people like me who actually live in Japan. We're screwed. I can watched it streamed for free on gyao, but of course, there are no subs. So basically english speaking fans in japan have to watch it raw. I shouldn't be griping, since I don't really need the subs anyway, but I was kind of hoping to support one of the newer startups... I guess I can't. __________________ Read Light Novels in English at J-Novel Club! Translator, Producer, Japan Media Export Expert Founder and Owner of J-Novel Club Sam Pinansky

2008-04-04, 14:38	Link #60
Dandruff Flakey Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona	That was hilarious, I laughed so hard during the tentacle scene... among the many other funny scenes as well, especially this little 'gag'. "When this battle is over, I'm going back to my hometown and get married."