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View Poll Results: Spice and Wolf II - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 17 | 29.82% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 15 | 26.32% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 18 | 31.58% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 10.53% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.75% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2009-09-03, 14:03 | Link #22 | |
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2009-09-03, 17:22 | Link #24 | |
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Yeah, I'm a bit surprised as well but I think you're seeing a bit of the author wanting to make such a commitment the climax of the series.
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2009-09-03, 17:41 | Link #25 | |
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I believe they have mutually and deliberately slowed down their journey to Yoitsu, under various pretexts (though clearly as an excuse to spend more time together).Over time their "mission" seems to be getting less and less important, even if it's still their primary focus. It also seems like the only way Lawrence feels he can contribute to their relationship, which may be why he's trying so hard. |
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2009-09-03, 17:54 | Link #26 |
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Well anyways the end of the episode was a surprise. I didn't think Abe was going to say something like that. Don't think she'd say something like that without any reason. Definitely worries me when you consider her link to the church. If it's connected then it's been a while since Horo has had a church based threat. Gah I just want a bit of the next episode for some answers .
Anyways the situation with Lawrence and Horo was pretty interesting in itself. Not that hard to guess what Horo is afraid of. Can't blame Horo for that fear. The lifespan differences and not to mention having someone in her life now that she cares that much about. The fear of losing that person and losing the happiness she now has. Besides traveling back home has kicked up memories of loss and that may be tying into it. Anyways loved the image of Lawrence with all the clothes hanging off him and then kicking over to Horo's position . Then she has to flip over into that goofy position . Never an end to the interesting times when traveling with Horo.
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2009-09-03, 20:26 | Link #28 | |
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So thinking back to the end I wonder if Abe is just trying to blackmail Lawrence regarding Horo. Or is she actually trying to acquire Horo to sell her to the church? Or is the whole thing a bluff?
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2009-09-03, 21:05 | Link #30 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if the cliff-hanger here is a 'fake-out' Where the viewers are made to go "oh snap! **** is going to go down!"
and get excited for the next episode, and its just something Lawrence misheard or its not going to hit the level of climax we were expecting. (maybe I been watching too many jdramas) anyway, I'm surprised at how successful Lawrence seems to be as a merchant. His 'savings' isn't really revealed and he lost almost all his worth from the armor incident in season 1. And an earlier episode, Horo mentioned he made enough money already to open his shop. I was under the impression Lawrence while a decent merchant himself is still in the apprentice/learning stage. Didn't he say he saved like 2 years to buy the clothes that Horo ended up claiming in episode 1 from under his wagon. And he has enough money for his own store already?
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2009-09-03, 21:11 | Link #32 | |
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Well we do have to take into account the amount of money Lawrence made in the last arc. He pretty much put everything he could into getting pyrite to sell it and make the market crash. Since he sold a lot at the high point you'd assume he made quite a substantial profit out of it. Might be wrong but I don't think he would have enough to open a shop if it wasn't for the amount he made in that situation.And don't forget behind held hostage in the first season. I guess you can say that her life has been rather eventful since she met Lawrence .
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2009-09-03, 21:44 | Link #33 | |
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The most touching scene in this episode for me was probably something I (yet again) misinterpreted. In the narrow alleyways it felt like Lawrence had opened up his heart to her, by "giving her advice" that seemed really more like a confession than advice (in his own simple yet convoluted manner). He seemed really crushed that when she seemed to miss the point. I doubt it was because he was describing how he wanted her to behave, like she said. I also wasn't particularly sure what to read from the scene when he was tucking Horo in. She said "if you come to realize what it is [that's scaring me], I might be a bit troubled.". His expression after that wasn't his usual "what's she talking about" face. I think Lawrence is completely at a loss for how to proceed. Finally, before I write a novel here, I'm interested in what Horo meant by "sweet and salty water". I've never heard that expression before. Also, Lawrence's last sentence confused me, in that scene where he's carrying all the books for Horo from Rigolo's place: L: "It must be really easy to wave your hands like that when you're not holding anything". H: "You should watch your mouth doesn't get your jilted one day." H: "Males just get overexcited when flattered". L: "Even though I'm in no position to, I just get frustrated." Based on Horo's laugh, I can't quite make out what he really said, since his admission that he wants some praise is hardly that funny... Last edited by BashZeStampeedo; 2009-09-03 at 22:51. |
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2009-09-04, 02:21 | Link #36 | |
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2009-09-04, 02:33 | Link #37 | |
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To sum it short, it's all about Lawrence being sweet to Horo to the extent that she expressed her gratitude to him then he played bad guy act to keep her from being too sweet. Yet Horo foundout about his act. The salt she foundout transformed into extremely sweet water that she feel overwhelmed. About your last curiousity, Lawrence said in order to counteract her teasing by stating himself not being a man in place where he fights with Horo but yet he feel frustrated. Horo got surprised that in his trump card to even counteract her in his dimmishing position. She clapped for his effort to fight herer back in smart way (for not being stubborn ones). How? He didn't fight back to get to the top over his rivals. Usually, stubborn guy will try to dig up one's mistake to counteract. Yet he admitted in his position to not challenging Horo that he's more matured than her or something and express his frustration knowing his position. That's calm and very smart when you want to aruge with wise people |
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2009-09-04, 09:13 | Link #38 | |
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Based on your feedback and my own opinions, their "sweet and salty water" dialog seems like he's either: - warning her that he could get used to treating her like that - warning her that that he might not be able to resist making a move on her - letting her know that he's worried his skills are dulling while he's with her Based on that, you are probably right that she would think he's trying to tell her that she's been "too nice to him". Wish I could read the novels to figure out I take it you meant that Lawrence knew he wasn't going to get any thanks from Horo, so rather than fighting he just admits it outright? Something like "even though I'm in no position to ask for it, I still get frustrated when I don't get any thanks". |
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2009-09-04, 10:23 | Link #39 |
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At the first part of this episode, Horo pretty much described every human male that has ever existed that ever tried their hands at romance. That was absolute win.
The middle of the episode tells me that both are inching closer to the truth and location of Horo's homeland, yet the subtle awkwardness of their relationship as capitalized by the hesitation of taking Horo's hand proves there is still much ground to be covered. Even then, Lawrence's words of comfort to Horo's fears was a sure sign of wise manliness. As for the end, it's proof that not only are people straight for Horo, people are gay for Horo as well.
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