[MANGA] Bleach Chapter 415 Discussion

[james0246]

Originally Posted by Gin

Also, no mentioning sites that host licensed material.

One Manga is closed, so it really doesn't matter anymore...

btw, What's with all the Butterfly hate? Japan created Mothra after all, and Mothra ended up being one of the biggest baddest mofos around. So, let's give a little more respect to our winged brethern...especially when they get teloportation powers, and can kill major characters (with silly backstories) in one blow.

Besides Papillon paved the way for Aizen (I'm sure there were multiple JoJo characters that also helped the "movement"), so if your going to blame anyone, blame 'Ol Pappy...

[iBeast]

Gin has to start keeping his eyes open more.

Seriously.

[Wiggy Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Simon_Lord

Gin is an interesting character now, and i wish i could learn more about it him the fact is, most of the times when a good guy turns evil, and turns back to good, he has to sacrifice himself for the good cause as a redemption of his past sins or something... so yeah, if he dies he will die as a good guy otherwise if he lives he will stay a little shady in my opinion, now moving on to FKKT to see whos still alive and willing to fight please.

as far as the entire manga is concerned, though, the only person gin has ever killed was the 3rd seat of the 5th division. and thinking back, that 3d seat dude could easily have been one of the guys who messed up rangiku during the flashback. we (or i) don't even know if hiyori is dead (he probably didn't want anybody killing aizen before him).

[shuete chan]

Originally Posted by Simon_Lord

Gin is an interesting character now, and i wish i could learn more about it him the fact is, most of the times when a good guy turns evil, and turns back to good, he has to sacrifice himself for the good cause as a redemption of his past sins or something... so yeah, if he dies he will die as a good guy otherwise if he lives he will stay a little shady in my opinion, now moving on to FKKT to see whos still alive and willing to fight please.

last time i checked good guys don't die in BLEACH
so i think he's alive even tho to me he's dead as tousen
cuz his character was mysterious and now it stopped making sense
the whole revenge sh*t is so much BS crap that i can't even deal with it

[Luminion Lancer]

-Anyone else find it incredibly ironic that Tite Kubo himself was surprised that many fans, women especially, were fond of Gin (he designed him to be creepy)? And now with 415 in tow, it seems like the fangirls were right all along about him. Anyone else surprised at this?

[dragonmeister]

What's happened to Kyoka Suigetsu? Ai-chan doesn't appear to have it stashed upon his person, and it's not in his hand, as evidenced by him using his sword hand to slash Gin.
Also, what happened to Ai-chan's subordinates from the flashback. They may not have been to Gin's future level, but they would have been useful to Ai-chan as cannon fodder or to distract Soul Society in his inevitable war against them - he'd have used them at some point.

[TrueElements]

what was that shit...

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by james0246

btw, What's with all the Butterfly hate? Japan created Mothra after all, and Mothra ended up being one of the biggest baddest mofos around. So, let's give a little more respect to our winged brethern...especially when they get teloportation powers, and can kill major characters (with silly backstories) in one blow.

Besides Papillon paved the way for Aizen (I'm sure there were multiple JoJo characters that also helped the "movement"), so if your going to blame anyone, blame 'Ol Pappy...

Aizen already had the mullet, now it's butterfly wings...next will be fishnet stockings and the finisher will be hollow-armour bra...as if he wasn't gay enough
Btw Papillion had good reason to want to be beautiful and free, his entire life had sucked beforehand. Not that we know ANYTHING about Aizen's past

Aaaanyway, the chapter's pretty standard bleach, Aizen survives, someone's trying to look cool, flashback incoming. Can't wait to get out of this routine.

[Freya]

Meh. Saw this coming. Gin wasn't going to do much. Aizen turns his h4x mode on and looks like Gin got owned in the end. Sigh. Who the fuck can kill Aizen then? Ichigo and his new hollow powers?

[ZGoten]

That chapter must have been a joke. It didn't even took me a minute to get through it, and I certainly wasn't rushing things. I've never seen a manga chapter with that little text in it.

Also...wth is going on?! :O

[Frostwake]

Its pretty sad Ichigo will be the one to kill him, now its more than certain... I wonder what kind of attack the Final Getsuga is, because the original one sucks ass

[Freya]

Originally Posted by ZGoten

That chapter must have been a joke. It didn't even took me a minute to get through it, and I certainly wasn't rushing things. I've never seen a manga chapter with that little text in it.

Also...wth is going on?! :O

If you haven't noticed already, A LOT of Kubo's chapters recently have like little to none dialogue.

Originally Posted by Frostwake

Its pretty sad Ichigo will be the one to kill him, now its more than certain... I wonder what kind of attack the Final Getsuga is, because the original one sucks ass

Eh....one thing is for sure. His next attack is going to be his next spam attack.

Almost reminds me of Bleach fighting games where players have Ichigo spamming GTs.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Koguma za

What about hichigo? or tensa zangetsu hmmmm? or hanataro?

Shirosaki has a rabid following, but in size they're nothing like the hoards of Hitsugaya and Rukia drones... Tensa Zangetsu is too new to have a real following yet (and will hopefully never be seen again, because old man Zangetsu is a hundred times cooler and less girly-looking)... And I don't even want to think about what kind of person picks Hamtaro for their Bleach role model... -_-'

Originally Posted by james0246

One Manga is closed, so it really doesn't matter anymore...

btw, What's with all the Butterfly hate? Japan created Mothra after all, and Mothra ended up being one of the biggest baddest mofos around. So, let's give a little more respect to our winged brethern...especially when they get teloportation powers, and can kill major characters (with silly backstories) in one blow.

Besides Papillon paved the way for Aizen (I'm sure there were multiple JoJo characters that also helped the "movement"), so if your going to blame anyone, blame 'Ol Pappy...

Yeah, Mothra, not Butterflyra. Moths are cool. Eating clothes, pretending to be tree bark, growing to enormous size and saving Tokyo from Godzilla with the help of a couple of tiny hotties... Butterflies are the pussies of the insect world. They just fly around drinking nectar and being annoying. They're the insects that the insects other insects beat up beat up. Butterfly motif equals instant fail.

Unless you're The Monarch. The Monarch is the shit. He'd have whipped Aizen's ass up one side of Soul Society and back down the other by now, except Aizen never did anything to piss him off... Until now...

[cloak_and_dagger]

I enjoyed this chapter immensely. Kubo just tops himself each chapter .

Even more amusing is how everyone in the thread just gave up on making any sense of this and is just enjoying the show by making humourous comparisons to "Butterflaizen"

[TheRime]

waaaah, i'm so confused.

At first I thought Aizen was GIVING the ball to his cronies (to show it off or whatever) and Gin pulled a backstab because he was jealous that he never got to play with it. But then it looks like he's TAKING it from them, which means that the cronies somehow had the power to steal/fetch the Hogyoku. But it STILL looks like Aizen's giving them something what with the cupped hands and all.

And what was up with Rangiku? Was she Urahara's original "carrier" for the Hogyoku? Or maybe they were stealing "spirit energy" from her to try to power the Hogyoku up or something.

And is that supposed to be the first time Gin and Rangiku met? It shouldn't be, because then he wouldn't care so much about her to develop a 100 year grudge. Unless.... what they did to her somehow messed with her memory so to HER, it was their first meeting, which might also explain why she says can't remember her birthday...

ARGH.

[Langus]

The way I read the Rangiku situation, it could turn out one of two ways. The obvious being that she was an original carrier of the hougyoku and is somehow involved (perhaps even without her knowledge).

The second, and I think more plausible theory, is that she has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Aizen's cronies roughed her up/raped her (her yukata is all spread open etc.) and Gin put two and two together himself when he saw them with Aizen. The two incidents aren't related - just happen to be a coincidence - and from that Gin built up a lifetime of hatred towards Aizen and planned to make him pay.

Given Kubo's past writing style, having it be revealed at some point that Aizen had nothing to do with Rangiku being attacked and furthermore had no knowledge of it could be very plausible.

[Alchemist007]

I'm sure they just beat her up. Rape doesn't seem to be something KT would bring up. All I know is, Gin got 10x more pwntastic.

[solidguy]

haha aizen just went choji on gins ass. Except instead of losing all his weight he lost the last shred of manhood he had left.

[Luminion Lancer]

Originally Posted by solidguy

haha aizen just went choji on gins ass. Except instead of losing all his weight he lost the last shred of manhood he had left.

-Aizen had actual "manhood"? Go figure. I always thought he was intersexed...

[Marka13]

Well, shit....
If Gin dies like this I'm gonna throw a hissy fit because now his character just got REALLY interesting!