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Jeffry2009 · 2008-01-14, 10:08

Hi, it's the first time i post mine here. I really loved this character so much. that's my favourite.

so what's with his alter ego called hallehujah?

Spoiler for ....:

feels weird. don't you think.

Eidolon Sniper · 2008-01-14, 10:16

Spoiler:

Jeffry2009 · 2008-02-26, 12:05

Guys, i really need to tell you, today is Allehujah's Birthday, right?

LightningZERO · 2008-02-27, 00:24

Ah yeah, happy birthday Allelujah (and Hallelujah?)

Jeffry2009 · 2008-02-27, 08:31

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Originally Posted by LightningZERO

Ah yeah, happy birthday Allelujah (and Hallelujah?)

Thanks for the answer. THANK GOD!!

Shiroth · 2008-02-27, 18:30

Shame he's receiving so little screentime around the time of his Birthday.

Blizzer · 2008-02-27, 18:38

Im so relieved they haven't shown much of Allelujah, if I hear Allelujah or Hallelujah one more time Sunrise will receive a horse's head in the mail.

Terra · 2008-02-27, 19:08

Sorry, but I want more Allelujah/Hallelujah and dislike the little screen time he's had recently.

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-02-29, 05:18

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Originally Posted by Terra

Sorry, but I want more Allelujah/Hallelujah and dislike the little screen time he's had recently.

Couldn't agree with you more here. I really hope he get's more attention before the first season is up as the past few episodes all he's done is hang out in space and wax philosophical with Sumeragi. Oddly enough that's supposed to be where he feels least comfortable, though I get the sense he prefers Sumeragi's company to most after the Super Soldier factory incident and that's where she is.

Terra · 2008-02-29, 08:35

The problem I see is that we're building up for the big season ending right now, so I think it's going to be hard to stick any meaningful character development for any character in before the season ends.

And where was it said he's least comformatable in space? I would have thought he'd be most comfortable there since it's what he was designed for. Unless it's a mental thing from it being what he was deisgned for and he's rejecting it based on his past.

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-02-29, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Terra

The problem I see is that we're building up for the big season ending right now, so I think it's going to be hard to stick any meaningful character development for any character in before the season ends.

And where was it said he's least comformatable in space? I would have thought he'd be most comfortable there since it's what he was designed for. Unless it's a mental thing from it being what he was deisgned for and he's rejecting it based on his past.

I think it was in episode 5, but I don't recall now. I'm pretty sure it's the case though.

DJ_RockmanX · 2008-02-29, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

I think it was in episode 5, but I don't recall now. I'm pretty sure it's the case though.

They never explicitly said that he's uncomfortable in space, but I would attribute that to his drifting incident after being disposed of by the Super Soldier Institute.

The ones whose preferences regarding Earth vs. Space are Sergei and Tieria in Episode 3, the former preferring the Earth's natural gravity, and the latter explicitly expressing his disdain for the ground.

hamstar · 2008-03-12, 23:28

i really like Hal before all the dual personality crap came into play....that made me hate him....It's like sunrise didnt know what to really do with his character so they just gave him some psychological illness. I have no idea why veda would choose a person with a psychiatric problem, especially after seeing him fall in and out of consciousness in battle

Terra · 2008-03-13, 05:10

I doubt they were expecting something like that to happen. They must see some use in him being the way he is. And I feel that his super soldier background will become important later on.

StratoSpear · 2008-03-13, 08:17

He needs more duels with Soma.... Maybe an episode titled "Duel of the SuperSoldiers"...
Seriously, I can't get enough of those two.

Terra · 2008-03-13, 17:19

I'm not liking Soma so much atm. She's getting a little toio trigger happy for my liking. She really needs a reality check from Allelujah.

Terra · 2008-03-29, 14:39

Does anyone else feel that after ep 25 that Allelujah has come to some sort of terms with himself? With the way Allelujah and Hallelujah teamed up, plus the way Hallelujah seemed to be pushing Allelujah at times to stand up and do things for himself I feel he's accepted part of himself.

I feel Allelujah's biggest problem was he was afraid of himself. Afraid of Hallelujah. But I always felt that his true self was a combination of both of them. And after seeing how devestating they were combined, it really does suggest that's who he truely is. The way Hallelujah died off to me also suggest that Hallelujah knew he was never going to last once Allelujah accepted Hallelujah's side. Once he knew Allelujah would stand up no matter what he let go as he felt he was no longer needed. I wouldn't be surprised if in season 2 we see off the battlefield the same kind and gentle Allelujah, but on the battlefield he has more of Hallelujah's drive. Hallelujah I feel is still there, but that's he's become fully a part of Allelujah.

I don't see this being the end of his development though. Since I feel he'll still find himself being out of place, searching for a place to belong. The first step for him has been taken with him becoming what I feel is whole. But with the revelation that he knows Soma, plus I don't see him getting over his out of place feeling anytime soon, I still see a lot of development to come from him.

It'll be interesting to see how Soma reacts to finding out who Allelujah is. Plus it was nice to see something more human from her in ep 25 with her refusal to go after Kyrios when Sergei got injured. He really got to her, and it took this for her to see it. Hopefully it'll help her loose her superiority complex, or at least some of it.

LuMiZu · 2008-03-29, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Terra

Does anyone else feel that after ep 25 that Allelujah has come to some sort of terms with himself? With the way Allelujah and Hallelujah teamed up, plus the way Hallelujah seemed to be pushing Allelujah at times to stand up and do things for himself I feel he's accepted part of himself.

I feel Allelujah's biggest problem was he was afraid of himself. Afraid of Hallelujah. But I always felt that his true self was a combination of both of them. And after seeing how devestating they were combined, it really does suggest that's who he truely is. The way Hallelujah died off to me also suggest that Hallelujah knew he was never going to last once Allelujah accepted Hallelujah's side. Once he knew Allelujah would stand up no matter what he let go as he felt he was no longer needed. I wouldn't be surprised if in season 2 we see off the battlefield the same kind and gentle Allelujah, but on the battlefield he has more of Hallelujah's drive. Hallelujah I feel is still there, but that's he's become fully a part of Allelujah.

I don't see this being the end of his development though. Since I feel he'll still find himself being out of place, searching for a place to belong. The first step for him has been taken with him becoming what I feel is whole. But with the revelation that he knows Soma, plus I don't see him getting over his out of place feeling anytime soon, I still see a lot of development to come from him.

It'll be interesting to see how Soma reacts to finding out who Allelujah is. Plus it was nice to see something more human from her in ep 25 with her refusal to go after Kyrios when Sergei got injured. He really got to her, and it took this for her to see it. Hopefully it'll help her loose her superiority complex, or at least some of it.

Indeed. It seems the two of them has finally come to terms with each other. They may even point to why he was chosen by Veda in the first place and didn't treat his headache problem. The combined Hal/Al maybe is what they were looking for. Moreover, we'll have to know why Alle said "why is Marie there" question. I hope we can find out what happened at the facility before they were dumped (Marie's friends and co.)

Terra · 2008-03-29, 15:01

I wouldn't be surprised to find his headache problem is gone in season 2. Hallelujah was never shown to have a problem with it. Plus he was able to block it in ep 23. And combined they never showed it as well.

Akatsuki19 · 2008-03-30, 00:30

I couldn't have said it better myself, Terra. Although it was a shame we weren't able to see Allelujah in the epilogue.
Al/Hal has been my favorite character since the first episode. I couldn't get enough of his gundam and see what else it could do.

When sunrise reviled that he had duel personalities, I was not that all shocked. I enjoy watched Hallelujah rampage like a lose animal. Does that make me awkward? If yes who cares.

Al/Hal is the most interesting character on the show but I wished he had more screen time.
And I can't wait to learn what his connection is to Soma/Marie in the 2nd Season.

2008-01-14, 10:08	Link #41
Jeffry2009 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Age: 37	Hi, it's the first time i post mine here. I really loved this character so much. that's my favourite. so what's with his alter ego called hallehujah? Spoiler for ....: Why is his alter ego now inside allehujah's head? how did he get in? feels weird. don't you think.

2008-01-14, 10:16	Link #42
Eidolon Sniper Tsubasa No Kami Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Returning to my Place as the QUEEN...XD	Spoiler: He was created prior to HRL's tampering with Allelujah's mind. Think Gollum of the Lord of the Rings. The Hallelujah personality, is in some way the more primal aspect of Allelujah's personality in an attempt to survive, or an attempt to break out of his hesitant, pacifistic shell. __________________ Ethereal Exiled Queen. NATCH~~~!!!

2008-02-27, 00:24	Link #44
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	Ah yeah, happy birthday Allelujah (and Hallelujah?) __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2008-02-27, 18:30	Link #46
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Shame he's receiving so little screentime around the time of his Birthday. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2008-02-27, 18:38	Link #47
Blizzer Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Age: 34	Im so relieved they haven't shown much of Allelujah, if I hear Allelujah or Hallelujah one more time Sunrise will receive a horse's head in the mail. __________________ My Top 5 1.Shadow Skill 2.Fate/Stay Night 3.Hanbun No Tsuki Ga Noboru Sora 4.Gunparade March 5.Kaibutsu Oujo

2008-02-26, 12:05	Link #43
Jeffry2009 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Age: 37	Guys, i really need to tell you, today is Allehujah's Birthday, right?

2008-02-27, 19:08	Link #48
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	Sorry, but I want more Allelujah/Hallelujah and dislike the little screen time he's had recently. __________________

2008-02-29, 08:35	Link #50
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	The problem I see is that we're building up for the big season ending right now, so I think it's going to be hard to stick any meaningful character development for any character in before the season ends. And where was it said he's least comformatable in space? I would have thought he'd be most comfortable there since it's what he was designed for. Unless it's a mental thing from it being what he was deisgned for and he's rejecting it based on his past. __________________

2008-03-12, 23:28	Link #53
hamstar just passing by Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Exia	i really like Hal before all the dual personality crap came into play....that made me hate him....It's like sunrise didnt know what to really do with his character so they just gave him some psychological illness. I have no idea why veda would choose a person with a psychiatric problem, especially after seeing him fall in and out of consciousness in battle __________________

2008-03-13, 05:10	Link #54
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	I doubt they were expecting something like that to happen. They must see some use in him being the way he is. And I feel that his super soldier background will become important later on. __________________

2008-03-13, 08:17	Link #55
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	He needs more duels with Soma.... Maybe an episode titled "Duel of the SuperSoldiers"... Seriously, I can't get enough of those two. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2008-03-13, 17:19	Link #56
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	I'm not liking Soma so much atm. She's getting a little toio trigger happy for my liking. She really needs a reality check from Allelujah. __________________

2008-03-29, 14:39	Link #57
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	Does anyone else feel that after ep 25 that Allelujah has come to some sort of terms with himself? With the way Allelujah and Hallelujah teamed up, plus the way Hallelujah seemed to be pushing Allelujah at times to stand up and do things for himself I feel he's accepted part of himself. I feel Allelujah's biggest problem was he was afraid of himself. Afraid of Hallelujah. But I always felt that his true self was a combination of both of them. And after seeing how devestating they were combined, it really does suggest that's who he truely is. The way Hallelujah died off to me also suggest that Hallelujah knew he was never going to last once Allelujah accepted Hallelujah's side. Once he knew Allelujah would stand up no matter what he let go as he felt he was no longer needed. I wouldn't be surprised if in season 2 we see off the battlefield the same kind and gentle Allelujah, but on the battlefield he has more of Hallelujah's drive. Hallelujah I feel is still there, but that's he's become fully a part of Allelujah. I don't see this being the end of his development though. Since I feel he'll still find himself being out of place, searching for a place to belong. The first step for him has been taken with him becoming what I feel is whole. But with the revelation that he knows Soma, plus I don't see him getting over his out of place feeling anytime soon, I still see a lot of development to come from him. It'll be interesting to see how Soma reacts to finding out who Allelujah is. Plus it was nice to see something more human from her in ep 25 with her refusal to go after Kyrios when Sergei got injured. He really got to her, and it took this for her to see it. Hopefully it'll help her loose her superiority complex, or at least some of it. __________________

2008-03-29, 15:01	Link #59
Terra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 44	I wouldn't be surprised to find his headache problem is gone in season 2. Hallelujah was never shown to have a problem with it. Plus he was able to block it in ep 23. And combined they never showed it as well. __________________

2008-03-30, 00:30	Link #60
Akatsuki19 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	I couldn't have said it better myself, Terra. Although it was a shame we weren't able to see Allelujah in the epilogue. Al/Hal has been my favorite character since the first episode. I couldn't get enough of his gundam and see what else it could do. When sunrise reviled that he had duel personalities, I was not that all shocked. I enjoy watched Hallelujah rampage like a lose animal. Does that make me awkward? If yes who cares. Al/Hal is the most interesting character on the show but I wished he had more screen time. And I can't wait to learn what his connection is to Soma/Marie in the 2nd Season.