2007-02-28, 10:43 | Link #61 |
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Actually i read that he was her master, but not necessarilly medium, maybe he just wound them up but didnt make the contract. He doesnt seem to have the ring(although it could be argued that this was simply not shown), and i cant see an old man having the strain of supplying a doll with power...even tomoe/jun had problems with it at the start. Also Souisei Seki seems really weak in the anime...she doesnt seem as strong as the dolls who had mediums.
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2007-02-28, 11:36 | Link #62 | |
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As to the anime, I never thought anything contrary to the fact that the old man was her medium. Perhaps it's not expressly stated (I really don't recall, it's been awhile since I've watched it)...but I think the implications are clear enough. Last edited by klinton; 2007-02-28 at 11:51. |
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2007-03-02, 22:25 | Link #63 | |
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2007-03-03, 13:36 | Link #65 | |
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Then after Jun gets angry she goes on about how she read that it's perfectly normal for boys his age to be interested in things like what he's doing. |
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2007-03-11, 12:06 | Link #67 |
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Unknown. At this point, we know that the Ouverture DVD sales were better than any of the previous RM DVDs, and we know that the story is unfinished. "Soon" is a relative term. If PEACH-PIT is able to continue writing the manga, I'd say next winter would be a good time for a release of the 3rd season.
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2007-04-24, 04:18 | Link #68 |
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I got many questions about technical aspect (I hope they werent answered before ;x I read the thread but didnt see anything).
1) What determine if they can fly or not? In battle, you see them fly around easily in both dream world, N-field and real world, but in other scene, they forget this ability. I'm talking about scene like the one at the end of the 2nd season, when Kanaria is slowly "climbing" the tree to escape, or when Shinku is stuck on the needle of the clock in Sousei seiki's master's dream world? Same could be said about episode like the one where Hina is trying to mail a letter. I guess I can understand them not using their power in comedy/daily situation assuming "flying" drain a lot of energy, but it's weird to see them not use it when they are in danger. I supose its just inconsistency, unless I'm missing something. 2)Why did Jun had to make a pact with Shinku? Well, my question is, why Suigin Tou sent the clown to attack him? She indirectly forced Shinku to make a pact with him, than spent 3 episodes at the end of the season trying to get ride of Jun to beat Shinku. 3) What exactly is the purpose of the fairy (forgot how they call it) all 7 Maidens have? Why did Suigin Tou went through the trouble to steal both when they don't seem to have much impact on anything (she could have stolen their Rosa mystica in that scene instead). I assume they act as some sort of power amplifier for shiny special attack, but beside that, I don't understand what they do. Also, how did Sousei Seiki lose her in episode 8-9? 4) What god should I pray for a 3rd reason, and where should I check for quick news to see if my prayer were answered? Also, is there any new development with the manga, or it's still canceled with no hope to see the rest X_x? Last edited by Kaylia; 2007-04-24 at 04:32. |
2007-04-29, 19:38 | Link #71 |
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2. Shinku made a pact with Jun so he could use Jun's power. Rozen Maiden's need mediums. Is how they get their extra power. If Suigintou got rid of Jun Shinku would get weaker.
3 Those fairy things are called Roza Mysticas. THe point of the ALice is game is to collect them. If one Maiden has them all they become ALice. THat's every Maiden's goal. |
2007-05-01, 01:04 | Link #72 | |
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2nd question was more like "Why did Suigin Tou sent the weak clown after Jun in the first episode, forcing them to make a pact?" It make little sense to get ride of him at that time. The roza mystica is the jewel that come out their chest when they die, not the small fairy thing. In the anime, they say something like "So, this is a Rosa mystica" when Sousei Seiki die, implying they havent seen one yet, or it's something rarer than the "fairies". The rosa mystica also carry the memory/emotion of the doll, while the "fairy" are used only as a weapon/tool |
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2007-05-01, 01:15 | Link #73 |
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About the only one I feel confident in answering is the faerie question. Since Suiseiseki/Souseiseki's faeries allowed them to enter the dream world, Suigintou uses them to move through people's dreams. I also recall that some faeries become the main weapon a doll uses - for instance, Suiseiseki's becomes her watering pot.
No idea why Suigintou would want those rather than their rosa mysticas at that time though you have some good questions x_x |
2007-05-01, 06:00 | Link #74 |
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All I can say is, the creators would probably wanted them to have a pact some way or another :P
As for th faries....you see the final episode? Barauishou and SHinku used their powers because they had them. Bara had Souseiseki's and was able to use her scissors as SHinku had Suigintou's giving her wings. |
2007-05-01, 07:57 | Link #75 |
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Hmm... Suigintou chose to take Souseiseki's Lempicka because it was part of her grand scheme for annoying/hurting Shinku as well as gaining Rosa Mysticae. It was much easier to blackmail Souseiseki than to defeat her in battle at that point.
As to why Suigintou sent the pierrot after Jun/Shinku, it wasn't really meant to kill Jun or defeat Shinku. It was just Suigintou sending a message to Shinku to say "I'm here, and you're going down." Or something to that effect. The Rosa Mystica and the dolls' artificial spirits are separate entities, as noted.
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2007-05-01, 21:30 | Link #77 | ||
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About the weapon, I thought it was something similar for a while, but you see Sousei Seiki uses her scisor to distract Suigin Tou near the end of episode 11 (they get them back in episode 12 when Suigin Tou is busy with Shinku) Quote:
The fairies are a part of the Rosa Mystica for sure. When you absorb someone's else rosa mystica, you get their power, their weapon, their memories and their fairies. We also know Suigin Tou got her fairy in the OVA at the same time she get her Rosa Mystica, so it's pretty obvious both are related. That said, it's still hard to pinpoint how much of their power is due to the fairy, medium, and rosa mystica. Last edited by Kaylia; 2007-05-01 at 21:47. |
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2007-05-01, 21:33 | Link #78 | |
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About the fairy, while it's true her plan was probably to "annoy" them, Sousei Seiki wasn't even fighting at that time. Even if she stole them, she ended up bringing Sousei Seiki against her. They also got their fairy back extremely easily in episode 12 (called their name and they came back). However, as mentioned by someone above, if the fairy is the thing they use to enter the dream world, it could make sense if she tried to disable every other doll. She should have tried to get Hina's one first tho >_> |
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