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Vexx · 2006-07-19, 12:10

Aye.. in *that* point of the timeline ... Kyon is still ambivalent towards Haruhi. He doesn't *dislike* her but he spends most of his time annoyed by her antics and annoyed that everyone tiptoes around her.

But he *does* find her attractive (he said so right off the bat) and it wasn't like he washed his mouth out after kissing her. They just aren't quite that far in whatever their relationship will evolve to yet. Afterward, she thinks it was some wierd dream she's not sure how to react to (and he wishes it *were* a dream and doesn't want to talk about it).

The end of the school festival episode with Kyon and Haruhi shows how it has evolved since then.. and the the "day in the rain" episode ending shows how much farther their relationship has evolved. Yeah, its like watching glacial melt but its moving...

(again this is based purely on the anime... the novels take slightly different angles from what I have seen so far)

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-19, 22:13

well more like... they didn't know they like each other when they are.

arias · 2006-07-19, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Vexx

But he *does* find her attractive (he said so right off the bat) and it wasn't like he washed his mouth out after kissing her. They just aren't quite that far in whatever their relationship will evolve to yet. Afterward, she thinks it was some wierd dream she's not sure how to react to (and he wishes it *were* a dream and doesn't want to talk about it).

In fact... BOOK SPOILER

Spoiler:

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-20, 03:47

Book spoiler? i don't think so, even the anime showed that.

Vexx · 2006-07-20, 12:38

@arias: That's too bad its not in the anime .... that little sequence would have really helped the display of the evolution of the relationship in the anime. As it is, we have to rely on more subtle clues like his remarks about her in the bunny suit or just the way he looks at her in the latter parts of the timeline when she's happy and excited or wistful and quiet.

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-22, 08:23

ok one question.. people said Someday In The Rain is special, or summut an ending to the whole Haruhi series. is Someday in the rain the last ending part or is it the whole chapter for the anime?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2006-07-22, 08:54

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Originally Posted by SnakeLegend

ok one question.. people said Someday In The Rain is special, or summut an ending to the whole Haruhi series. is Someday in the rain the last ending part or is it the whole chapter for the anime?

There is no "chapter" for SITR. It was never a part of the novels, but is only an episode script. None the less, since the author wrote it, it is considered canon.

It is the chronological wrap-up of the 13 episodes. There is no ending to speak of anywhere, as there is much to see and do yet.

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-22, 09:12

but in many ways it makes me think of the first novel's ending part...

RiXeD · 2006-07-22, 10:37

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Originally Posted by SnakeLegend

but in many ways it makes me think of the first novel's ending part...

WANT!

But no, seriously. I hope that author won`t write an endless story just for money omg. Like makers of Naruto anime.

***CrowKenobi*** · 2006-07-22, 18:08

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Originally Posted by RiXeD

WANT!

But no, seriously. I hope that author won`t write an endless story just for money omg. Like makers of Naruto anime.

The makers of the Naruto anime caught up to the manga at episode 135... though I wouldn't have thought that those idiots would've made this "endless filler" crap last so long...

I get the feeling that the author will write enough story to get his characters through to their graduation from high school (much like Azumanga Daioh).

Archuka · 2006-07-22, 20:03

So which parts of the novel series did the anime cover? I tried looking through the various threads but couldn't find a clear answer.

At first I thought the anime only covered vol. 1, so I printed the fan translation for the prologue and ch. 1 of vol. 2. I quickly noticed that vol. 2 begins where ep 14 in the anime ends, which is of course not chronologically the last event in the anime. A look at these forums revealed that the anime did cover stuff from even later volumes also.

So the big question is: Which parts of the novels did the anime not cover? I'm slightly more interested in what happens after episode 9 than any possible events that should have happened in the anime timeline but were not included in it.

PS. Not begin able to create new threads in the Haruhi section is bloody annoying.

ApathyEcstasy · 2006-07-22, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Archuka

So which parts of the novel series did the anime cover? I tried looking through the various threads but couldn't find a clear answer.

At first I thought the anime only covered vol. 1, so I printed the fan translation for the prologue and ch. 1 of vol. 2. I quickly noticed that vol. 2 begins where ep 14 in the anime ends, which is of course not chronologically the last event in the anime. A look at these forums revealed that the anime did cover stuff from even later volumes also.

So the big question is: Which parts of the novels did the anime not cover? I'm slightly more interested in what happens after episode 9 than any possible events that should have happened in the anime timeline but were not included in it.

PS. Not begin able to create new threads in the Haruhi section is bloody annoying.

to sum things up...the anime covered novel 1, and took tiny bits and pieces from novel 2 (and possibly even from after novel 2, not sure at all about this one)

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2006-07-22, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Archuka

So which parts of the novel series did the anime cover? I tried looking through the various threads but couldn't find a clear answer.

At first I thought the anime only covered vol. 1, so I printed the fan translation for the prologue and ch. 1 of vol. 2. I quickly noticed that vol. 2 begins where ep 14 in the anime ends, which is of course not chronologically the last event in the anime. A look at these forums revealed that the anime did cover stuff from even later volumes also.

So the big question is: Which parts of the novels did the anime not cover? I'm slightly more interested in what happens after episode 9 than any possible events that should have happened in the anime timeline but were not included in it.

PS. Not begin able to create new threads in the Haruhi section is bloody annoying.

You are asking a difficult question, because only those who are absolutely up to date with the novels could answer this. (I don't think many, if any, of us are up to book 8, are we?)
What little I know...

Spoiler:

... And that's all I know. People who are more knowledgeable will probably start correcting my errors. (I am getting a Taiwanese copy of book 6 today)

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-23, 01:05

oh heh, i'm still waiting for the next book now.
still i don't get it... episode 14 :Someday In The rain...

Archuka · 2006-07-23, 07:43

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

You are asking a difficult question, because only those who are absolutely up to date with the novels could answer this. (I don't think many, if any, of us are up to book 8, are we?)
What little I know...

Spoiler:

... And that's all I know. People who are more knowledgeable will probably start correcting my errors. (I am getting a Taiwanese copy of book 6 today)

Ah, so it would be a good idea to read the bamboo story, book 4 and the mountain stories at least.

Shirobane · 2006-07-23, 19:35

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Originally Posted by SnakeLegend

oh heh, i'm still waiting for the next book now.
still i don't get it... episode 14 :Someday In The rain...

Someday in the Rain is exclusive to the anime. You won't find it in the novels.

Vexx · 2006-07-23, 19:58

And though it is exclusive to the anime ... my understanding is that it was written by the novel's author and so you can probably take it for "canon" information about a snapshot "day in the life" that shows where relationship-wise the characters are at the end of the first season timeline.

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-23, 20:33

ok.........
but still.... i still think it still looks like first novel's last chapter, about the last part where HaruhiXKyon? and the part where Kyon said about her pony tail? then lastly, he said about talking to her about aliens, time travellers and espers....

Vexx · 2006-07-24, 00:08

ok now I'm confused... do you mean the last episode of the series? or the episode that portrayed the last segment of the *timeline* (Someday in the Rain). Remember the series episodes are not in timeline order.

After the incident in the "almost got us a new universe" timeline (kiss & ponytail), he did tell her about everything (offscreen)... she said he was just pulling her leg but it gave her the idea for the student-movie's plot and who should play what role.

SnakeLegend · 2006-07-24, 00:21

ok can someone tell me whats Someday In The Rain's sequence just in case i messed up again?

2006-07-19, 12:10	Link #321
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Aye.. in that point of the timeline ... Kyon is still ambivalent towards Haruhi. He doesn't dislike her but he spends most of his time annoyed by her antics and annoyed that everyone tiptoes around her. But he does find her attractive (he said so right off the bat) and it wasn't like he washed his mouth out after kissing her. They just aren't quite that far in whatever their relationship will evolve to yet. Afterward, she thinks it was some wierd dream she's not sure how to react to (and he wishes it were a dream and doesn't want to talk about it). The end of the school festival episode with Kyon and Haruhi shows how it has evolved since then.. and the the "day in the rain" episode ending shows how much farther their relationship has evolved. Yeah, its like watching glacial melt but its moving... (again this is based purely on the anime... the novels take slightly different angles from what I have seen so far) __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-07-20, 12:38	Link #325
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	@arias: That's too bad its not in the anime .... that little sequence would have really helped the display of the evolution of the relationship in the anime. As it is, we have to rely on more subtle clues like his remarks about her in the bunny suit or just the way he looks at her in the latter parts of the timeline when she's happy and excited or wistful and quiet. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-07-23, 19:58	Link #337
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	And though it is exclusive to the anime ... my understanding is that it was written by the novel's author and so you can probably take it for "canon" information about a snapshot "day in the life" that shows where relationship-wise the characters are at the end of the first season timeline. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-07-24, 00:08	Link #339
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	ok now I'm confused... do you mean the last episode of the series? or the episode that portrayed the last segment of the timeline (Someday in the Rain). Remember the series episodes are not in timeline order. After the incident in the "almost got us a new universe" timeline (kiss & ponytail), he did tell her about everything (offscreen)... she said he was just pulling her leg but it gave her the idea for the student-movie's plot and who should play what role. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-07-19, 22:13	Link #322
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	well more like... they didn't know they like each other when they are.

2006-07-20, 03:47	Link #324
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	Book spoiler? i don't think so, even the anime showed that.

2006-07-22, 08:23	Link #326
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	ok one question.. people said Someday In The Rain is special, or summut an ending to the whole Haruhi series. is Someday in the rain the last ending part or is it the whole chapter for the anime?

2006-07-22, 09:12	Link #328
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	but in many ways it makes me think of the first novel's ending part...

2006-07-22, 20:03	Link #331
Archuka A territory most absolute Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Finland Age: 37	So which parts of the novel series did the anime cover? I tried looking through the various threads but couldn't find a clear answer. At first I thought the anime only covered vol. 1, so I printed the fan translation for the prologue and ch. 1 of vol. 2. I quickly noticed that vol. 2 begins where ep 14 in the anime ends, which is of course not chronologically the last event in the anime. A look at these forums revealed that the anime did cover stuff from even later volumes also. So the big question is: Which parts of the novels did the anime not cover? I'm slightly more interested in what happens after episode 9 than any possible events that should have happened in the anime timeline but were not included in it. PS. Not begin able to create new threads in the Haruhi section is bloody annoying.

2006-07-23, 01:05	Link #334
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	oh heh, i'm still waiting for the next book now. still i don't get it... episode 14 :Someday In The rain...

2006-07-23, 20:33	Link #338
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	ok......... but still.... i still think it still looks like first novel's last chapter, about the last part where HaruhiXKyon? and the part where Kyon said about her pony tail? then lastly, he said about talking to her about aliens, time travellers and espers....

2006-07-24, 00:21	Link #340
SnakeLegend Back Again From Haruhiism Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore	ok can someone tell me whats Someday In The Rain's sequence just in case i messed up again?