2010-01-15, 21:18 | Link #10842 |
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Well as far as I know the designs of the Gundams was done by engineers but when the Thrones appeared Sumeragi said she checked Veda's Gundam database and the Thrones didn't match any first or 2nd generation designs. Also Veda is interlinked with all CB computers that are online it's hard to tell what all data it may be downloaded to it.
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2010-01-15, 23:01 | Link #10843 | ||
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That and I think the system trap was fairly limited in its ability,meaning that it was probably programmed to do vital stuff like ensuring th anomousity of CB members which seems like vital first on the list kinda things.CB's technology would have been too numerous and too wide. While stuff like mech data is important,it would have been too complicated,since other than mechs there would have been thousands of other technological databases,like medical technology. And the System Trap while powerful is basic in nature.Release lock on Trans-Am,release Twin Drive and erase or hide CB member data.And considering it would have been implemented a long time ago,they probably cant go ahead and just make it do whatever that may seem important. Not to mention,Ribbons would probably have the data anyways,or Alejandro. Quote:
It makes sense of CB to store their data there as well.Besides,considering how much CB is such a close knit internal organisation,with alot of things inherited from the previous generation,putting that data in such a secure place makes sense to prevent possible leakage or loss.
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2010-01-16, 12:22 | Link #10844 |
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Sonic I was thinking more along the lines of keeping them from finding the individual Gundams that were in uses Achilles’ heel in the designs layout then protecting the technology.
But if that wasn't include in additional information in the manga then they probably didn't cover it up with CB personnel data. We know Ribbons was accessing level 7 data before the trap went off given the info that Team Trinity had on the Miesters and what happened with the trial system. Although it seems Ribbons access was bit limited otherwise he wouldn't have needed Nena to access the terminal on the Ptolemy for him. |
2010-01-16, 13:38 | Link #10845 |
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That depends,Ribbons relation with Nena in terms of giving Veda access is hard to determine for sure.However,we do know that Ribbons have had Level 7 access for awhile now,it was mentioned in the first novel.And he is fully aware of of the targets and goals of the Plan,even about the planned destruction of Celestial Being[Even Tiera,another Level 7 wasnt aware of this but Tiera is just Regene's clone as he replaced Regene who was suppose to be one of the Original Innovedo Meisters along with Ribbons],which was why Ribbons quit as a Meister,he didn't want to die and wanted to see through the Plan till the end.
He also had the ability to block all suggestions given by Grave [Grave recruited Allelujah and Lockon I think] for Exia's Meister,he's reserved that exclusively for Setsuna. Not to mention,he's used the MS data for some things,like developing the 1 Gundam and GN Cannon.The 1 Gundam is said to be brother machines with Exia in terms of development data,while GN Cannon used data from Virtue[Who is still in development when we saw the GN Cannon being used in 00P S2].
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2010-01-16, 17:07 | Link #10847 | ||
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Gundam Rasiel's Meister in 00PS2.He was in charge of recruiting the Meisters,recruited Allelujah and Lockon I think.Tried to recruit a Meister for Exia but all of his candidates were instantly rejected,leading him to believe that Exia's seat is reserved for someone. He's also an Innovedo though I didnt think he knew it,although he was aware of their existence. Quote:
And they share similar heads too.
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2010-01-16, 23:38 | Link #10848 | ||
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Seems like he didn't blindly follow Veda like alot CB members and pretty well informed if knew about Innovedo. Quote:
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2010-01-17, 13:28 | Link #10850 | |||
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For the record though,not following Veda can get you killed.And of course CB members have to follow Veda,its the highest chain of command so naturally your going to have to follow it. Though for the record,Sumeragi did not mind abandoning protocols in S1 either,when she suspected Veda has been infiltrated,she asked a report not to be sent through the Veda System. Quote:
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/ As for the Reborns web profile,yeah we've had that translated by mike_s_6 a few months back.The GN-X II sensor thing was further showed in the development chart of the Gundam 00 Genealogy released with PG 00 Raiser. Anyways,just for the heck of it,here's the profile in plain human flesh translated English: Quote:
Speaking of the official website profiles,the Susanowo's profile mentions that the Innovedo and Billy developed their Trans-Am Systems separately,with Billy getting his from the analysis acquired by Eifman's research Notes regarding GN Drives. It didn't elaborated much on possible differences in terms of theory,application,strengths and weaknesses although we do know that the pseudo solar furnaces are damaged in both from the HG Hilling Garazzo manual as well as the HG Trans-Am Susanowo manual,so in that regard their probably the same. We also do not know where the Innovedo got the inspiration and data for theirs,but I wont be surprised if it was from Anew who also stole the data for the Twin Drive from CB,as mentioned in the Reborns profile above.The anime further solidifies this as one of the operators mentioned that some data was erased and some stolen immediately after the Anew hostage crisis.
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I remember from series Ribbons freaking out when he couldn't find any data on the twin drive system he also seemed completely clueless about to so I doubt he had done any research before season 2. I wonder if they ever found all of Ribbons hidding spots considering how many different mobile suits he researched and developed there had to be mutiple warehouse and manufacturing facilities if for no other reason then to keep the UN in the dark about what was going on. |
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2010-01-17, 22:17 | Link #10852 | |
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One depended on only handwritten notes from a late Professor, and furnished them with up-to-date data on the pseudo GN drives. The other had the backing of Veda, and stolen data thanks to an unknowing spy from a rich resource database. I could only be awed by the infinite amount of knowledge and data that the Innovators could utilized. ------------------------------------------------------ The first ESF president was an ally of Ribbons Almack, and he would have allowed the Innovator to do whatever he wanted, in return for aid and support from Veda. After Tieria captured Veda, he could have either destroyed the facilities, or continue to use them for his own research (e.g. Raphael Gundam). |
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2010-01-20, 05:23 | Link #10854 |
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Only slightly bigger: http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/617Y1VqeLmL.jpg
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2010-01-25, 05:16 | Link #10855 |
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Celestial Station 00R, Yun Kouga talks with host Irino Miyu (Saji) about character design
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2010-02-03, 21:27 | Link #10858 |
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something i heard thats interesting
type 1, 2 and 3 civilizations type 1 being that they can control the entire planet, they control earthquakes and weathers type 2 being they use power source from their mother start (for us is the sun) type 3 being type 3 which is when they exhausted their star's energy and went galactic is it even possible int he 00 world to achieve type 1? if aeolina's plan of uniting the world succeeded? |
2010-02-04, 05:28 | Link #10860 |
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China made themselves snow heavily the other day you know,as in a few months.Its not Quantum tech to control whether these days,we can influence it quite a bit actually.
Of course,the type 1 civilization referred here would have like.........much more better control than us.
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