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defki · 2013-01-29, 18:37

I am just surprised at how bad this is even for a shounen. That's all.

Tyabann · 2013-01-29, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Vigo

I am just surprised at how bad this is even for a shounen. That's all.

Do you know how many genres of manga fall under that demographic?

What you hate are battle manga, and for that matter you probably only specifically hate WSJ battle manga. Just like most of the people who read Medaka Box, it seems.

defki · 2013-01-29, 18:51

Hmm yeah you are right sorry. Should have specified better.

Homura7 · 2013-01-29, 18:59

Bad, my ass. We were hinted at. And it had plenty of foreshadowing.

Heys guys, this development is bad because, because... because I say so! LOL.

Lupus753 · 2013-01-29, 19:12

Spoiler for ch. 180:

Homura7 · 2013-01-29, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Lupus753

Spoiler for ch. 180:

I'll just remind you the time when Iihiko made his first appearance and many were all "how come Ajimu says she can't defeat a no name like that". Yeah, a no name...

Because is bad enough when you misinterpret something, but is way worse when you not just misinterpret but misunderstand too.

Homura7 · 2013-01-29, 21:38

And Medaka Box gets out of the bottom 5.

Libros · 2013-01-30, 02:14

Uno momento please. Ok so real quick, can someone give me a run through of what the substitute thing the Shiranui's do? I mean, I thought Hanten was meant to replace Ajimu when she died? Does that mean he became..err that ultimate goddess-level person that in reality if ported to our world would be God's god? Or what else happened? Maybe I sort of forgot how the whole system works. I just didn't think they turned into the people they're meant to be replacing. By turn into, I mean just that. Transform into.

KLGChaos · 2013-01-30, 08:17

Spoiler:

Guernsey · 2013-01-30, 13:20

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos

Spoiler:

Spoiler for Who Knows?:

Lupus753 · 2013-01-30, 15:40

Spoiler for discussion:

AlphaDragoon · 2013-01-30, 17:40

Outside of general dislike for Medaka that several people on here have, I'm not really sure what the issue is.

Spoiler for Chapter 180:

Izayoi · 2013-01-30, 19:47

I get confused about what the audience wants when I read these forum posts. What should he have written?

Tyabann · 2013-01-30, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Izayoi

I get confused about what the audience wants when I read these forum posts. What should he have written?

Nothing because he should have ended it forty chapters ago.

That, or he should have gone in the direction that he seemed to have been setting up forty chapters ago.
Either way, certainly not this.

Endscape · 2013-01-30, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Izayoi

I get confused about what the audience wants when I read these forum posts. What should he have written?

Basically, people just like complaining. Pay it no mind.

silver001 · 2013-01-30, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Nothing because he should have ended it forty chapters ago.

That, or he should have gone in the direction that he seemed to have been setting up forty chapters ago.
Either way, certainly not this.

There is no SHOULD, he obviously did not END it and if you don't like it well too bad. Obviously his target audience still wants it. Not to sound like the if you don't like it dont read it crowd, but you really should.

@KLGChaos

I am honestly surprise you actually started reading it again, considering how much you hate it.

telamont · 2013-01-30, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Izayoi

I get confused about what the audience wants when I read these forum posts. What should he have written?

My guess is that, for a while there after the Zenkichi/Medaka presidential election showdown, it looked like the manga was going to become "Zenkichi Box." Many of the people who find Zenkichi boring probably dropped the manga part way through the "Zenkichi Box" arc (I myself was one chapter away from doing that before the story shifted focus.)

The Zenkichi fans, who liked that development (and who have always been among the more... "passionate" and vocal fans anyway) and stuck around hoping for more are most likely angry now that the author basically went "LOL. NOPE. PSYCH!" in their faces and thus are... passionately vocalizing their opinion. Medaka, who's perceived as the Spotlight-Stealing Squad is the natural target for their ire.

Thus, the current state of the forums. Kinda boring really. I miss the days when these forums were more diverse.

IronicTruth · 2013-01-31, 01:43

I will admit I am disappointed. For me, and I am going to put it simply, is that I have seen this scenario before from this arc and the minus arc.

-Main character dies (Zen/Medaka)
-Meets familiar face that we have all heard about but have seen for the first time (Ajimu/ Medaka’s mother Hato)
-After coming back to life character has new powers to achieve victory. (Help win the rounds in the minus arc/ *spoil* beat Iihiko)

“ What might happen” Familiar face sets in motion something for the next arc.
Though I am only going to say that because of my reasons before

DawnEmperor · 2013-01-31, 13:21

I honestly have to agree at this point that the Medaka hate is getting really old. You're always welcome to voice your opinions, but sometimes we should move the discussion to other places.

Homura7 · 2013-01-31, 14:52

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Originally Posted by DawnEmperor

I honestly have to agree at this point that the Medaka hate is getting really old. You're always welcome to voice your opinions, but sometimes we should move the discussion to other places.

And with the huge twist in this week's chapter doing that makes even less sense to be honest.

2013-01-29, 19:12	Link #11865
Lupus753 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Spoiler for ch. 180: It seems like some people don't like the idea of Medaka accomplishing too much. I'm not sure if I agree. Given that this seems to be a bad thing... Or maybe I'm misinterpreting responses.

2013-01-30, 08:17	Link #11869
KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	Spoiler: And my interest in the series just went out the window. Oh well... it got decent there for a while with the whole Ajimu/Presidency arc, but I felt it really died during the Jet Black Wedding arc.... and this whole Iihiko thing hasn't really caught me. The reason a lot of people don't like Medaka is the same reason why a lot of people aren't fans of Naruto-- they pretty much overshadow every accomplishment made by other characters in the series. At least in Naruto, though, it felt like the other characters did have a role to play because Naruto couldn't take on everyone at once (in the beginning anyway). With Medaka, it's like "What's the point of even having secondary characters? She can do it all herself." __________________

2013-01-30, 15:40	Link #11871
Lupus753 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Spoiler for discussion: For a while, I thought the best ending would be if Medaka went evil and everyone had to fight her. Like at the end of the Flask Plan arc, but far more and longer. Everyone had to defeat this unstoppable Goddess. It would be hard because, you know, 120%. Then, I realized that idea was stupid, cold not work, and might make things even more unbearable. So, no show. @Guernsay: To be super-ultra-technical, Goddess never fought Medaka. The point still stands and the line between deconstruction of bad writing and bad writing can get a bit blurry.

2013-01-30, 17:40	Link #11872
AlphaDragoon Flame of the Dragonslayer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 39	Outside of general dislike for Medaka that several people on here have, I'm not really sure what the issue is. Spoiler for Chapter 180: Main characters in shounen typically win when their back is against the wall. Why are people so mad that this is the case again, outside of "it's Medaka and we don't like her" bias? Having Zen or Kumagawa or someone else be the one to overcome Iihiko would be like if Naruto got killed by the final villain and Sakura defeats him/her or something.

2013-01-30, 19:47	Link #11873
Izayoi I LOVE FLAN_CHAN Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Flan-chan Age: 21	I get confused about what the audience wants when I read these forum posts. What should he have written? __________________ I love Flandre Scarlet Last edited by Izayoi; 2013-01-30 at 19:51. Reason: Nevermind

2013-01-29, 18:37	Link #11861
defki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I am just surprised at how bad this is even for a shounen. That's all.

2013-01-29, 18:51	Link #11863
defki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Hmm yeah you are right sorry. Should have specified better.

2013-01-29, 18:59	Link #11864
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Bad, my ass. We were hinted at. And it had plenty of foreshadowing. Heys guys, this development is bad because, because... because I say so! LOL.

2013-01-29, 21:38	Link #11867
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	And Medaka Box gets out of the bottom 5.

2013-01-30, 02:14	Link #11868
Libros I never hid my hurts. Join Date: May 2012 Location: Where the wild things are--Hell.	Uno momento please. Ok so real quick, can someone give me a run through of what the substitute thing the Shiranui's do? I mean, I thought Hanten was meant to replace Ajimu when she died? Does that mean he became..err that ultimate goddess-level person that in reality if ported to our world would be God's god? Or what else happened? Maybe I sort of forgot how the whole system works. I just didn't think they turned into the people they're meant to be replacing. By turn into, I mean just that. Transform into.

2013-01-31, 01:43	Link #11878
IronicTruth Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	I will admit I am disappointed. For me, and I am going to put it simply, is that I have seen this scenario before from this arc and the minus arc. -Main character dies (Zen/Medaka) -Meets familiar face that we have all heard about but have seen for the first time (Ajimu/ Medaka’s mother Hato) -After coming back to life character has new powers to achieve victory. (Help win the rounds in the minus arc/ spoil beat Iihiko) “ What might happen” Familiar face sets in motion something for the next arc. Though I am only going to say that because of my reasons before

2013-01-31, 13:21	Link #11879
DawnEmperor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere	I honestly have to agree at this point that the Medaka hate is getting really old. You're always welcome to voice your opinions, but sometimes we should move the discussion to other places.