Gurren-Lagann - Episode 17 Discussion / Poll

[aohige]

Originally Posted by humbug23

- As someone(aohige?Nighty?) has enlightened us before, the current decade of mecha-anime-homaging has now shifted to the 80s. and its a great breath of fresh air, despite the heavy mood. Absolutely loved the little UC Gundam similarities.

90s, actually. This 3rd part is homage to the 90s.
And it shows. The style of animation, conflicts, enemy mechs... they do a great job in reminding us of the past decade.

...any word for heiwa boke? Letting peaceful times get to the head?

There are no specific english term that's used in the same context, as far as I know.
Your description is fine, I think.

[quina]

sigh... if you talk about 90s.. I always think of this thing... lol its by Sunrise, may be it doesn't count.

Its 1993.. miss it so much, can't find a place to buy it now too

and well the most famous title during the 90s is Eva (1995) no doubt.

[aohige]

If you stick to the robot shows, anime that crosses my mind first when thinking about 90s are Eva, Nadesico, Yuusha series, and Gundam W.

[musashiken]

Oh yeah, I definitely agree with aohige. Those are the robot shows that come to mind... and of course Magic Knight Rayearth, Escaflowne and Ryuu Knight... but erm let's put those medieval type mechas aside.

[7Th]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

I sincerely hope that OP Kamina with the shining tattoo on his back isn't what it looks like it may be.

That was pretty obviously just a homage to him.

[Shouta]

Very awesome episode. It finally feels like the show has gotten some storyline to it. The last 15 episodes have been pure adrenaline and while not bad, it kind of leaves an empty feeling after watching it.

Lots of neat things about this ep.

Spoiler for Random musings For Ep 17:

- Funny that Rossiu became what he left behind and he actually predicted it in Episode 7. Even Simon recognizes it and yells at him "Isn't it the same thing that happened in your village!" (not direct quote)

- Everyone is looking fairly good now that the time jump has occurred. All the kid characters are grown while the older ones are staying relatively the same with a few cosmetic differences. Even Kiyal is taller and a little older looking.

- Dayakka definitely knew something was up with Rossiu, hence his uneasiness at Sonchou's Pigmole resturant (lol at him becoming a fat resturant mogul)

- Rossiu and Simon are a clash of personality types, typical to 90s mecha anime. The hard line serious character and the casual, carefree character. Both want the same thing but have very different ways of going about it.

- Rossiu seems to have most of the upper command personnel behind him like scientists and operators. While they aren't a faction in this episode, you can tell they follow Rossiu's line of thinking.

- Viral is looking ragged and badass! A guerrilla protecting the people that wish to live underground because it was their home.

- It looks like Viral knows exactly how the Anti-Spiral Annihilation System (whatever it is exactly, I can't recall)works. Speculation here but it seems he knows that the system keeps tabs of humans on the surface and hence is protecting the humans that want to live underground again.

- If the above is the case, Rossiu ended up bringing on the onslaught from the moon and that'll be his ticket back onto the good side by the end of the series. ;x

- The Grapals or whatever seem to be based on Lagann and replaced the Ganmen. Kinon mentions that they decomissioned them (I believe) not only because they believe the Grapals are more advanced but also because they didn't want to use the Spiral King's technology (which seems to be the counter measure). I'm kinda guessing because I only watched the sequence once so I don't have all the details.

- Kittan is totally shocked at Kinon's personality change, haha.

- Reality check for Simon at the end of the fight. Kittan gets yelled at by Rossiu about going in head first into the battle without assessing the situation.

- Nia is still as silly as ever. Seven years with everyone and she still doesn't understand. ;x

- Where the cheesepoofs was Attenborough!? I wanted to see what the trigger happy muppet looked like post time jump.

- Eyecatch had rap now, woof. The New ED is good, not as good as the original ED IMO but very nice overall. It has tons of Boota too! BOOTA FTW!

[Deathkillz]

gah i need to watch this when i get back @_@
but this pic is just full of win...no wait...it has surpassed even that! O.O

Spoiler:

"destruction program online!" ~ nuuuuuu ;_;

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Lots of Z.O.E vibes from the end... highly technological cities, enemies that look like Orbital Frames in CG, and the LEV-ish GL-type Grapals...

How i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking that. I was waiting to hear Jeuhty's voice for a few minutes there.

Originally Posted by 7Th

That was pretty obviously just a homage to him.

Yeah, especially being at the top and all. Still, i wonder be that surprised is something did happen.

[Kanon]

Wow, this episode was almost better than ep 15, that's saying something.

Spoiler:

Rossiu is clearly not evil after all, he just does what he thinks is best for humans. Nia is the ennemy, I think I'm going to love her now (yeah, I've always had a soft spot for hot evil women ), I wonder if she's going to stay evil all the way until the end.

Oh and I don't think anyone mentioned it yet, but there are beastmen living in Kamina City. Now I understand better why Simon's crew from ep 1 had a beastman in it.

[musashiken]

Yup, I noted the bunny girls and cat girls and fish men.

[Zekori]

Hmm

Spoiler:

Getting the feeling that the introduction from the first episode will be in right before the final battle or series that lead to them. Didn't peg Rossui to pull such a movie around the time they introduced him, though I'm a bit more satisfied with him making his own faction. Simon's group conflicting with Rossui's and the Anti-Spiral System (?) all at once sounds like fun, wonder if he's going to "go down in blaze of glory" like his character sterotype.

Guessing from the opening scenes, Dari and Gimmy are the wingmen for the GL (unlike GL being solo through out the whole first part of the series). Well here's to hoping we see Viral piloting the Gurren in the future since Enkidu(?) has been demolished and a not so much bland finale.

[roan]

Originally Posted by Shouta

Very awesome episode. It finally feels like the show has gotten some storyline to it. The last 15 episodes have been pure adrenaline and while not bad, it kind of leaves an empty feeling after watching it.

Lots of neat things about this ep.

Spoiler for Random musings For Ep 17:

- Where the cheesepoofs was Attenborough!? I wanted to see what the trigger happy muppet looked like post time jump.

- Eyecatch had rap now, woof. The New ED is good, not as good as the original ED IMO but very nice overall. It has tons of Boota too! BOOTA FTW!

Spoiler:

well.... he was also there during kiyo's baby's birth in the op.

[ryuusei]

Anyone else think that with all the GM-ed Grapals the GL has lost its uniqueness?

[Deathkillz]

finally!! with a broken arm ive done a summary if anyone wants to read

The Start of A new Era! ~ Gurren Lagann Episode 17

"row row! fight the powa!"

[U<3Anime]

Watched the episode and i have to say..........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO Nia

This episode gives me some eva vibe to it. I guess its because the weird unknown blocked shaped alien reminded of angels. Also, Rossiu is such a jerk right now. He reminds me of Gendou(dont ask me why ). I haven't lost all my hope on Nia yet because there's always the POWER OF LOVE!(and courage).

Oh yea, one more thing after watching the preview....

Spoiler for SCENE:

WHY THE HELL DOES ROSSIU HAVE HELIX KING IN A TUBE!?

sigh... if you talk about 90s.. I always think of this thing... lol its by Sunrise, may be it doesn't count.

Its 1993.. miss it so much, can't find a place to buy it now too

and well the most famous title during the 90s is Eva (1995) no doubt.

off topic: Heh, I remember that show. I used to have the figure for the basball and soccer dude xD The mecha show i miss the most is Wataru(dont know how to spell the full name)

[Malintex_Terek]

Originally Posted by ryuusei

Anyone else think that with all the GM-ed Grapals the GL has lost its uniqueness?

Not really. Doesn't look like the Engineering crew could duplicate the Spiral Power - the Grapals seem to be just updated versions of Gunmen.

[v1cious]

Originally Posted by ryuusei

Anyone else think that with all the GM-ed Grapals the GL has lost its uniqueness?

judging from this...

Spoiler:

i'm gonna say no

[7Th]

So fellow posters... your opinion on whenever Nia's take over orchestrated by an invasion or if it came from something within herself? I'm leaning more towards the second option myself due to the fact it seemed like if the moon was calling for her rather than taking over her, as if trying to reach her subconscious. Not to mention the small shining point from within her eyes as she saw the moon above her head in the sky.

[Subarunyon]

Nia's take over looks like it was an invasion from outside to me. It feels like there's another being / whatever on the moon as shown by the moon closeup. The rocket mission would probably reveal something soon too. I am half expecting a longinus spear, lawl XD

Why is it that the eyecatch shows Simon and Daryl instead of Simon and Nia? 0-O;; is this some kind of foreshadowing or just pure fanservice? o=

Loved this episode. Wasnt expecting the feel change, and I think it lost something from the previous 15 (Simon vs the cg mecha scene doesnt even have bgm! But overall the show is still a really good one. I do have problems with the cg enemy but it's not that bad, it goes well with the explosion thingie happening at the end. If it's trying to reference eva then it should've been animated instead tho, imo =x It think looks more like Vandread instead though. What year was vandread again?

Oh and Gimmy-Darry's plugsuits are colored like the ones from stellvia. then again plugsuits mostly looks similar anyway =b

[frijidz]

i had to watch ep 1 again to reassure me of where this is going

phew