[PC/PS3/360/WiiU] Mass Effect 3

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

The only way you're completely doomed and can't negotiate the peace is if you let Tali get exiled and you either don't do Legion's loyalty mission or you rewrite the geth. That gives you 0 "points" from ME2, and you can only get 2 "points" in ME3, so if you mess up in ME2 you are boned in ME3.

If you destroy the heretic geth and get Tali acquitted, you have 4 "points" before you even start ME3, and you need 5-7 "points" to negotiate a peace with the geth, which means the only thing you have to do one of the extra Rannoch missions, either destroying the geth squadron or saving Zaal'Koris.

I redeemed Tali, but rewrote the heretics. The only problem I had was that, being a renegon, I couldn't resolve the Tali/Legion dispute with a paragon or renegade option (which is one more point). That left me one point short, even with all the sidequests done.

[Aqua Knight]

To be honest I was pleased when Quarians died.
Maybe if Bioware somehow manages to fix the ending, I will replay all the trilogy and make different choices.

Btw, is there a rumor that this Friday some announcement will be made about ME 3 ending and stuff?

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Keroko

I redeemed Tali, but rewrote the heretics. The only problem I had was that, being a renegon, I couldn't resolve the Tali/Legion dispute with a paragon or renegade option (which is one more point). That left me one point short, even with all the sidequests done.

That's quite odd. If you've talked to everyone and had every sidequest possible done by that point, you should have enough Reputation by that time to initiate a Paragon or Renegade option.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

That's quite odd. If you've talked to everyone and had every sidequest possible done by that point, you should have enough Reputation by that time to initiate a Paragon or Renegade option.

Nope, the later you leave the event, the harder it is to guarantee enough points to use an option. This is because sometimes missing a single dialogue choice would cost you, and the costs add up. The only way to not miss out is to play with the WIKI page open. Just talk to everyone and do all the quests is not good enough.

In fact, the more quests you do, the harder it is. So if not for the fact that you want to keep Kelly alive, we wouldn't be forced to rescue Legion last. This is a major complaint of ME2 and why they changed the system for ME3.

[Aqua Knight]

Playing with wiki isn't fun as you know the consequences of the choices.

The only time I reloaded in ME 3 after making a choice was when I was facing off Kaidan. I thought that blue Paragon or red Renegade choice would lead to his death, so I chose the simply non-coloured answer. But it killed him instead lol.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Nope, the later you leave the event, the harder it is to guarantee enough points to use an option. This is because sometimes missing a single dialogue choice would cost you, and the costs add up. The only way to not miss out is to play with the WIKI page open. Just talk to everyone and do all the quests is not good enough.

In fact, the more quests you do, the harder it is. So if not for the fact that you want to keep Kelly alive, we wouldn't be forced to rescue Legion last. This is a major complaint of ME2 and why they changed the system for ME3.

I think I see what the problem with my post is: I thought it was for ME3 instead of ME2

Still, I never had any problem with getting enough points in ME2, using only my guts and intuition without any guides.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Nope, the later you leave the event, the harder it is to guarantee enough points to use an option. This is because sometimes missing a single dialogue choice would cost you, and the costs add up. The only way to not miss out is to play with the WIKI page open. Just talk to everyone and do all the quests is not good enough.

In fact, the more quests you do, the harder it is. So if not for the fact that you want to keep Kelly alive, we wouldn't be forced to rescue Legion last. This is a major complaint of ME2 and why they changed the system for ME3.

what? are you saying that the requirement scales up according to how far you are in the game?

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Key Board

what? are you saying that the requirement scales up according to how far you are in the game?

It is based on percentages.

Cheers.

[Key Board]

oh.. didn't know that..

It thought it was a cumulative point

Never had trouble convincing anyone in ME2. Maybe because I was mostly Paragon

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

That's quite odd. If you've talked to everyone and had every sidequest possible done by that point, you should have enough Reputation by that time to initiate a Paragon or Renegade option.

Hehe, no it wasn't the ME3 one, I couldn't solve the Tali/Legion dispute in ME2. That was the last point I needed.

Essentially, I was foiled by game design rather than my choices.

Originally Posted by Key Board

what? are you saying that the requirement scales up according to how far you are in the game?

In ME2, yes. ME2 measures your paragon/renegade persuade and intimidate options by how far you are in the game and along it's track. Playing anything but a pure paragon/renegade is severely punished in ME2.

[npal]

Originally Posted by Keroko

In ME2, yes. ME2 measures your paragon/renegade persuade and intimidate options by how far you are in the game and along it's track. Playing anything but a pure paragon/renegade is severely punished in ME2.

A ridiculous notion if there was ever any really. They should have had a 70% max threshhold for alignment purposes. As it is, to get the most out of it you have to play in black and white. Only D&D Paladins of old had to play in black and white, but that was due to roleplay class code restrictions, not some vague game mechanics... And then there's the fallen one or blackguard, but that's pushing it too offtopic. Point is, the ME alignment system could use tweaks.

[killer3000ad]

The quote below was from Stanley Woo, a Bioware staff member.

[Keroko]

Is Bioware's PR department trying to win the fall-flat-on-your-face-lympics or something?

[npal]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Is Bioware's PR department trying to win the fall-flat-on-your-face-lympics or something?

Well, they've been mostly successful so far, so it's probable. It's times like these that it's better to just shut up because anything you say will be... well, crap

[Terrestrial Dream]

There is no way that Bioware is this dumb...
This level of stupidity can not be real, it has to be a some kind of act.

[Laith]

Denial only makes things more difficult.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by killer3000ad

The quote below was from Stanley Woo, a Bioware staff member.

The question to ask is were these guys playing a different game in their head?

I mean so far it's like they don't even know anything about the game they released....

BTW I noticed that there are 16 lines there and Casey said there'd be 16 endings....so I guess he was right...to a certain extent

[Keroko]

To be fair, it should be noted that PR managers don't really have an idea what the designers call the files. Hell, most people don't.

[Nixl]

Bioware is definitely getting a lot of shit recently and from multiple sources, but some of it is well deserved. To be perfectly honest, from DA2, TOR, to ME3 I do not think Bioware would get half the shit it does if only the PR team was fired. The amount of promises they make just makes everything that much worse.

[MrTerrorist]

Oh my.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/qOqHUa2LfNY

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?